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[[Tempering out]] this comma in the 2.3.7.29 subgroup results in the rank-3 '''biminoric''' temperament, a.k.a. '''spoogalactic''' temperament. It tempers 28/27 and 29/28 together, as well as [[49/27]] and [[29/16]] together. [[7/6]] and [[29/24]] are separated by 29/28 as are [[36/29]] and [[9/7]], where 9/7 is 28/27 below [[4/3]] and 7/6 is 28/27 above [[9/8]], so tempering out this comma to extend the 2.3.7 subgroup to the 2.3.7.29 subgroup is of very high accuracy, yielding obviously distinct flavours of thirds, as a third-tone lies between the two minor thirds and between the two major thirds.  
[[Tempering out]] this comma in the 2.3.7.29 subgroup results in the rank-3 '''biminoric''' temperament, a.k.a. '''spoogalactic''' temperament. It tempers 28/27 and 29/28 together, as well as [[49/27]] and [[29/16]] together. [[7/6]] and [[29/24]] are separated by 29/28 as are [[36/29]] and [[9/7]], where 9/7 is 28/27 below [[4/3]] and 7/6 is 28/27 above [[9/8]], so tempering out this comma to extend the 2.3.7 subgroup to the 2.3.7.29 subgroup is of very high accuracy, yielding obviously distinct flavours of thirds, as a third-tone lies between the two minor thirds and between the two major thirds.  


The optimal ET sequence is well-supplied with relatively efficient [[edo]]s that [[support]] it. Some reasonable alternative tunings not appearing in the optimal ET sequence are [[55edo]], [[63edo]], and their sum, [[118edo]]. 63edo is notable as a multiple of 7edo (for ~32/29 = 1\7) and 9edo (for ~7/6 = 2\9), while 55edo is a flat-tending meantone system (using ~8/7 = 1\5) that is in terms of errors not much more inefficient than 58edo or 41edo.
The optimal ET sequence is well-supplied with relatively efficient [[edo]]s that [[support]] it. Some alternative tunings not appearing in the optimal ET sequence are [[55edo]], [[63edo]], and their sum, [[118edo]]. 63edo is notable as a multiple of 7edo (for ~32/29 = 1\7) and 9edo (for ~7/6 = 2\9), while 55edo is a flat-tending meantone system (using ~8/7 = 1\5) that is in terms of errors not much more inefficient than 58edo or 41edo.


A [[catakleismic]] extension is available in the 2.3.5.7.13.29 subgroup, with the notable [[S-expression]] of {S25, S26, S27, S28}. It is also tempered out in [[miracle]], [[magic]], [[newt]] extensions, and a [[septischismic]] extension.  
A [[catakleismic]] extension is available in the 2.3.5.7.13.29 subgroup, with the notable [[S-expression]] of {S25, S26, S27, S28}. It is also tempered out in [[miracle]], [[magic]], [[newt]] extensions, and a [[septischismic]] extension.  

Latest revision as of 15:03, 18 October 2026

Interval information
Ratio 784/783
Subgroup monzo 2.3.7.29 [4 -3 2 -1⟩
Size in cents 2.209616 ¢
Name biminorisma
Color name twenuzozo 2nd, 29uzz2,
Twenuzozo comma
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{m2}^{7,7}_{29} }[/math]
Special properties square superparticular,
reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 19.2276
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 19.2294
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 60
Comma size unnoticeable
S-expression S28
Open this interval in xen-calc

784/783, the biminorisma, is an unnoticeable 29-limit comma measuring about 2.21 cents. It is the distance between the intervals 29/28 and 28/27 (thus having the S-expression S28).

Temperaments

Tempering out this comma in the 2.3.7.29 subgroup results in the rank-3 biminoric temperament, a.k.a. spoogalactic temperament. It tempers 28/27 and 29/28 together, as well as 49/27 and 29/16 together. 7/6 and 29/24 are separated by 29/28 as are 36/29 and 9/7, where 9/7 is 28/27 below 4/3 and 7/6 is 28/27 above 9/8, so tempering out this comma to extend the 2.3.7 subgroup to the 2.3.7.29 subgroup is of very high accuracy, yielding obviously distinct flavours of thirds, as a third-tone lies between the two minor thirds and between the two major thirds.

The optimal ET sequence is well-supplied with relatively efficient edos that support it. Some alternative tunings not appearing in the optimal ET sequence are 55edo, 63edo, and their sum, 118edo. 63edo is notable as a multiple of 7edo (for ~32/29 = 1\7) and 9edo (for ~7/6 = 2\9), while 55edo is a flat-tending meantone system (using ~8/7 = 1\5) that is in terms of errors not much more inefficient than 58edo or 41edo.

A catakleismic extension is available in the 2.3.5.7.13.29 subgroup, with the notable S-expression of {S25, S26, S27, S28}. It is also tempered out in miracle, magic, newt extensions, and a septischismic extension.

Biminoric

Subgroup: 2.3.7.29

Comma list: 784/783

Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 0 0 4], ⟨0 1 0 -3], ⟨0 0 1 2]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~7

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.9057 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.2269 ¢, ~7/4 = 968.6429 ¢
error map: ⟨-0.094 +0.178 -0.372 +0.556]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.2309 ¢, ~7/4 = 968.5643 ¢
error map: ⟨0.000 +0.276 -0.262 +0.859]

Optimal ET sequence: 14, 17, 19, 22, 36, 41, 58, 77, 99, 135, 311, 446, 1027j, 1126j, 1261jj

Badness (Sintel): 0.0387

Scales

Biminordene

Designed and named by Scott Dakota, the JI pre-image is:

28/27
9/8
7/6
9/7
4/3
81/56
3/2
14/9
12/7
7/4
27/14
2/1

Which can be tempered using one's preferred tuning of Biminoric. For example, using the POTE tuning yields:

61.8726
204.5643
266.4369
435.8452
497.7179
640.4095
702.2821
764.1548
933.5631
968.7190
1138.1274
1200.0000

Etymology

This comma was named for the two kinds of minor thirds discussed above. It was not named bimajorisma to further distance from association with the unrelated temperament named bisupermajor.

Trivia

A form of this temperament is used in the song "Into The Spoogalaxy!" by members of the XA Discord server for the 2023 Server vs. Server music competition, from which was invented a light-hearted alternative name "spoogalactic comma" thus implying a "spoogalactic temperament", but it is recommended to use the formal names biminoric and biminorisma, the name proposed prior by Scott Dakota, who had also spent time using the rank-3 temperament prior to suggesting names for the comma (of which biminorisma was favoured by other members of the XA Discord).