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Revision as of 11:10, 8 November 2025

Submerged (16 & 29) is a temperament generated by a ~373¢ 5/4, tempering out the submerged comma in the 5-limit. Its major third is slightly flat of magic's major third, which itself is slightly flat of a just 5/4, making submerged's generator arguably a submajor third. The comma's monzo is [-27 1 11, which implies that 11 5/4s stack to make a 4/3, thus making its ploidacot omega-hendecacot.

For limits higher than 5, 9 5/4s stack to reach 7/4, and it tempers out 525/512 and 3125/3087 in the 7-limit, and in the 11-limit, 441/440 and 121/120. In the 13-limit, in addition to tempering out 105/104, if we look at a submerged third, it sits in between 16/13 and 5/4, and a very logical thing to do is to temper out the difference between these two intervals, thus also tempering out 65/64.

Submerged was named by Fitzgerald Lee as a play on the term "submajor third".

Interval Chain

In the following table, odd harmonics 1-15 and their inverses are in bold.

# Cents* Approximate ratios
0 0.0 1/1
1 372.6 5/4, 16/13
2 745.2 32/21, 20/13
3 1117.8 40/21, 25/13
4 290.4 64/55, 13/11
5 663.0 16/11, 22/15
6 1035.6 20/11, 11/6
7 208.2 25/22, 55/48
8 580.8 7/5, 55/39
9 953.4 26/15, 7/4
10 126.0 16/15, 14/13
11 498.6 4/3, 35/26
12 871.2 64/39, 5/3
13 43.8 40/39, 25/24

* In 5-limit CTE tuning

Scales

Submerged generates the MOSes 3L 4s, 3L 7s, 3L 10s and 13L 3s.

Tunings

Tuning Spectrum

Edo
generator
Unchanged interval
(eigenmonzo)
Generator (¢) Comments
4\13 369.231 Major thirds slightly flatter than this fall under 13&23
75/64 369.491 1/9-comma
15/8 371.173 1/10-comma
8\29 372.414
3/2 372.550 1/11-comma
14\45 373.333
5/3 373.697 1/12-comma
25/24 374.667 1/13-comma
5\16 375.000 Major thirds slightly sharper than this fall under magic

See also