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{{stub}}The 2.3.5.13 subgroup is a [[just intonation subgroup]] consisting of [[Rational interval|rational intervals]] where 2, 3, 5, and 13 are the only allowable [[Prime factor|prime factors]], so that every such interval may be written as a ratio of integers which are products of 2, 5, and 7. This is an infinite set and still infinite even if we restrict consideration to a single octave. Some examples within the [[octave]] include [[5/4]], [[3/2]], [[13/8]], [[13/10]], [[39/32]] and so on.
{{stub}}The 2.3.5.13 subgroup is a [[just intonation subgroup]] consisting of [[Rational interval|rational intervals]] where 2, 3, 5, and 13 are the only allowable [[Prime factor|prime factors]], so that every such interval may be written as a ratio of integers which are products of 2, 3, 5 and 13. This is an infinite set and still infinite even if we restrict consideration to a single octave. Some examples within the [[octave]] include [[5/4]], [[3/2]], [[13/8]], [[13/10]], [[39/32]] and so on.


It can be thought out as an extension of the familiar 5-limit with a tridecimal xenharmonic touch, or as a retraction of the 13-limit obtained by removing 7 and 11.
It can be thought out as an extension of the familiar 5-limit with a tridecimal xenharmonic touch, or as a retraction of the 13-limit obtained by removing 7 and 11.
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[[Cata]] provides a fairly low complexity approximation to the subgroup, using ~6/5 as a generator, finding ~5/4 at +6 gens, ~3/2 at +7 gens, and ~13/8 at +14 gens.
[[Cata]] provides a fairly low complexity approximation to the subgroup, using ~6/5 as a generator, finding ~5/4 at +6 gens, ~3/2 at +7 gens, and ~13/8 at +14 gens.


[[Pythagorean tuning]] also works surprisingly well, where the diminished fourth (-8 fifths) [[8192/6561]] and the triple augmented fourth (+20 fifths) 3486784401/2147483648 sound extremely close to 5/4 and 13/8 respectively, wherein tempering the [[schisma]] and [[tridecapyth comma]] provide a fairly more complex but 3/2-[[Telicity|telic]] microtemperament, of which 53edo offers a great approximation.
[[Pythagorean tuning]] also works surprisingly well, where the diminished fourth (-8 fifths) [[8192/6561]] and the triple augmented fourth (+20 fifths) 3486784401/2147483648 sound extremely close to 5/4 and 13/8 respectively, wherein tempering the [[schisma]] and [[tridecapyth comma]] provide a fairly more complex but 3/2-[[Telicity|telic]] microtemperament, of which 53edo offers an almost perfect approximation. Pure fifths and octaves on the other hand, offer 5 and 13 with -1.954c and +1.428c of error.  


Other approximations of [[schismic]] reach prime 13 through other means, such as [[hemischis]], dividing prime 3 in 2 and finding 3/2 at +2 gens, 5/4 at -16 gens, and 13/8 at -13 gens.
Other approximations of [[schismic]] reach prime 13 through other means, such as [[hemischis]], dividing prime 3 in 2 and finding 3/2 at +2 gens, 5/4 at -16 gens, and 13/8 at -13 gens.