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A '''perfect octave''' ('''P8''') or '''octave''' ('''8ve''') is an [[interval]] that is approximately 1200 [[cent]]s in [[Interval size measure|size]]. While a rough tuning range for octaves is sharper than 1140 cents, the term ''octave'' tends to imply a function within music that only works with intervals that are exactly (or almost exactly) 1200 cents, corresponding to a [[just]] [[ratio]] of [[2/1]].


''This page is about the interval region. For the octave as a just ratio, see [[2/1]].''
The aforementioned function is the interval of equivalence, or [[equave]], because tones separated by an octave are perceived to have the same or similar [[pitch class]] to the average human listener. The reason for this phenomenon is probably due to the strong region of attraction of low [[harmonic entropy]], or the strong amplitude of the second [[harmonic]] in most harmonic instruments. As such, it is common practice to [[octave-reduce]] intervals so that they lie within the octave.


'''This page is a work-in-progress.'''
Because of that, this page only covers intervals of 1200 cents and flatter, as sharper intervals octave-reduce to [[commas and dieses]].


An [[octave]] '''(8ve''') is an interval that is approximately 1200 [[Cent|cents]] in size. While a rough tuning range for octaves is sharper than 1140 cents, the term "octave" tends to imply a function within music that only works with intervals that are exactly (or almost exactly) 1200 cents, corresponding to a just ratio of [[2/1]].
{{todo|inline=1|review|comment=Mention concordance before harmonic entropy, since harmonic entropy is a single model of concordance}}
 
The aforementioned function is as the '''interval of equivalence''', because tones separated by an octave are perceived to have the same or similar pitch class to the average human listener. The reason for this phenomenon is probably due to the strong region of attraction of low [[harmonic entropy]], or the strong amplitude of the second [[harmonic]] in most harmonic instruments. As such, it is common practice to "[[Octave reduction|octave-reduce]]" intervals so that they lie within the octave.
 
Because of that, this page only covers intervals of 1200 cents and flatter, as sharper intervals octave-reduce to [[Comma and diesis|commas and dieses]].


== In just intonation ==
== In just intonation ==
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Several notable ones are:
Several notable ones are:
 
{{todo|inline=1|complete list}}
* TBD


== In tempered scales ==
== In tempered scales ==
As the just octave of 2/1 is the interval being equally divided in [[EDO|EDOs,]] it is represented perfectly in all of them. The following table lists other octave-sized intervals (> 1140 cents) that exist in various significant EDOs.
As the just octave of 2/1 is the interval being equally divided in [[EDO]]s, it is represented perfectly in all of them. The following table lists other octave-sized intervals (> 1140 cents) that exist in various significant EDOs.
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2/1 is also represented perfectly in most temperaments, or the most common tunings thereof, and is mainly involved in octave-reducing intervals (such as saying that, in meantone, four 3/2s (octave-reduced) stack to 5/4).
2/1 is also represented perfectly in most temperaments, or the most common tunings thereof, and is mainly involved in octave-reducing intervals (such as saying that, in meantone, four 3/2s (octave-reduced) stack to 5/4).
{{todo|inline=1|complete table}}


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Revision as of 05:52, 26 February 2025

This page is about the interval region. For the octave as a just ratio, see 2/1.

A perfect octave (P8) or octave (8ve) is an interval that is approximately 1200 cents in size. While a rough tuning range for octaves is sharper than 1140 cents, the term octave tends to imply a function within music that only works with intervals that are exactly (or almost exactly) 1200 cents, corresponding to a just ratio of 2/1.

The aforementioned function is the interval of equivalence, or equave, because tones separated by an octave are perceived to have the same or similar pitch class to the average human listener. The reason for this phenomenon is probably due to the strong region of attraction of low harmonic entropy, or the strong amplitude of the second harmonic in most harmonic instruments. As such, it is common practice to octave-reduce intervals so that they lie within the octave.

Because of that, this page only covers intervals of 1200 cents and flatter, as sharper intervals octave-reduce to commas and dieses.

Todo: review

Mention concordance before harmonic entropy, since harmonic entropy is a single model of concordance

In just intonation

The only "perfect" octave is the interval 2/1, which can be stacked to produce all other 2-limit intervals. It is 1200 cents in size, by definition. However, various "out-of-tune" octaves exist, usually flat or sharp of an octave by a small interval such as a comma.

Several notable ones are:

Todo: complete list

In tempered scales

As the just octave of 2/1 is the interval being equally divided in EDOs, it is represented perfectly in all of them. The following table lists other octave-sized intervals (> 1140 cents) that exist in various significant EDOs.

EDO Suboctaves
22 TBD
24
25
26
27
29
31
34
41
53

2/1 is also represented perfectly in most temperaments, or the most common tunings thereof, and is mainly involved in octave-reducing intervals (such as saying that, in meantone, four 3/2s (octave-reduced) stack to 5/4).

Todo: complete table


ViewTalkEditInterval classification
Seconds and thirds UnisonComma and diesisSemitoneNeutral secondMajor second • (Interseptimal second-third) • Minor thirdNeutral thirdMajor third
Fourths and fifths (Interseptimal third-fourth) • Perfect fourthSuperfourthTritoneSubfifthPerfect fifth • (Interseptimal fifth-sixth)
Sixths and sevenths Minor sixthNeutral sixthMajor sixth • (Interseptimal sixth-seventh) • Minor seventhNeutral seventhMajor seventhOctave
Diatonic qualities DiminishedMinorPerfectMajorAugmented
Tuning ranges Neutral (interval quality)Submajor and supraminorPental major and minorNovamajor and novaminorNeogothic major and minorSupermajor and subminorUltramajor and inframinor