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== Intervals == | == Intervals == | ||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable center-1 right-2" | ||
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! # | ! # | ||
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| 0 | | 0 | ||
| 0. | | 0.0 | ||
| 1/1 | | 1/1 | ||
| Perfect 1sn | | Perfect 1sn | ||
| Line 33: | Line 33: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 14. | | 14.3 | ||
| ''81/80'', 105/104, 126/125, 169/168, 196/195 | | ''81/80'', 105/104, 126/125, 169/168, 196/195 | ||
| Up 1sn | | Up 1sn | ||
| Line 40: | Line 40: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 2 | | 2 | ||
| 28. | | 28.6 | ||
| 50/49, 64/63, 65/64, ''91/90'' | | 50/49, 64/63, 65/64, ''91/90'' | ||
| Dup 1sn | | Dup 1sn | ||
| Line 47: | Line 47: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 3 | | 3 | ||
| 42. | | 42.9 | ||
| 36/35, 40/39, 46/45, 49/48 | | 36/35, 40/39, 46/45, 49/48 | ||
| Trup 1sn | | Trup 1sn | ||
| Line 54: | Line 54: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 4 | | 4 | ||
| 57. | | 57.1 | ||
| ''27/26'' | | ''27/26'' | ||
| Trudminor 2nd | | Trudminor 2nd | ||
| Line 61: | Line 61: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 5 | | 5 | ||
| 71. | | 71.4 | ||
| 24/23, 25/24, 26/25, ''28/27'' | | 24/23, 25/24, 26/25, ''28/27'' | ||
| Dudminor 2nd | | Dudminor 2nd | ||
| Line 68: | Line 68: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 6 | | 6 | ||
| 85. | | 85.7 | ||
| 20/19, 21/20 | | 20/19, 21/20 | ||
| Downminor 2nd | | Downminor 2nd | ||
| Line 75: | Line 75: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 7 | | 7 | ||
| 100. | | 100.0 | ||
| 19/18 | | 19/18 | ||
| Minor 2nd | | Minor 2nd | ||
| Line 82: | Line 82: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 8 | | 8 | ||
| 114. | | 114.3 | ||
| 15/14, 16/15 | | 15/14, 16/15 | ||
| Upminor 2nd | | Upminor 2nd | ||
| Line 89: | Line 89: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 9 | | 9 | ||
| 128. | | 128.6 | ||
| 14/13 | | 14/13 | ||
| Dupminor 2nd | | Dupminor 2nd | ||
| Line 96: | Line 96: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 10 | | 10 | ||
| 142. | | 142.9 | ||
| 13/12 | | 13/12 | ||
| Trupminor 2nd | | Trupminor 2nd | ||
| Line 103: | Line 103: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 11 | | 11 | ||
| 157. | | 157.1 | ||
| 23/21 | | 23/21 | ||
| Trudmajor 2nd | | Trudmajor 2nd | ||
| Line 110: | Line 110: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 12 | | 12 | ||
| 171. | | 171.4 | ||
| 21/19 | | 21/19 | ||
| Dudmajor 2nd | | Dudmajor 2nd | ||
| Line 117: | Line 117: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 13 | | 13 | ||
| 185. | | 185.7 | ||
| 10/9 | | 10/9 | ||
| Downmajor 2nd | | Downmajor 2nd | ||
| Line 124: | Line 124: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 14 | | 14 | ||
| 200. | | 200.0 | ||
| 9/8 | | 9/8 | ||
| Major 2nd | | Major 2nd | ||
| Line 131: | Line 131: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 15 | | 15 | ||
| 214. | | 214.3 | ||
| 26/23 | | 26/23 | ||
| Upmajor 2nd | | Upmajor 2nd | ||
| Line 138: | Line 138: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 16 | | 16 | ||
| 228. | | 228.6 | ||
| 8/7 | | 8/7 | ||
| Dupmajor 2nd | | Dupmajor 2nd | ||
| Line 145: | Line 145: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 17 | | 17 | ||
| 242. | | 242.9 | ||
| 15/13, 23/20 | | 15/13, 23/20 | ||
| Trupmajor 2nd | | Trupmajor 2nd | ||
| Line 152: | Line 152: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 18 | | 18 | ||
| 257. | | 257.1 | ||
| 52/45 | | 52/45 | ||
| Trudminor 3rd | | Trudminor 3rd | ||
| Line 159: | Line 159: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 19 | | 19 | ||
| 271. | | 271.4 | ||
| 7/6 | | 7/6 | ||
| Dudminor 3rd | | Dudminor 3rd | ||
| Line 166: | Line 166: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 20 | | 20 | ||
| 285. | | 285.7 | ||
| 45/38, 46/39 | | 45/38, 46/39 | ||
| Downminor 3rd | | Downminor 3rd | ||
| Line 173: | Line 173: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 21 | | 21 | ||
| 300. | | 300.0 | ||
| 19/16, 25/21, 32/27 | | 19/16, 25/21, 32/27 | ||
| Minor 3rd | | Minor 3rd | ||
| Line 180: | Line 180: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 22 | | 22 | ||
| 314. | | 314.3 | ||
| 6/5 | | 6/5 | ||
| Upminor 3rd | | Upminor 3rd | ||
| Line 187: | Line 187: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 23 | | 23 | ||
| 328. | | 328.6 | ||
| 23/19 | | 23/19 | ||
| Dupminor 3rd | | Dupminor 3rd | ||
| Line 194: | Line 194: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 24 | | 24 | ||
| 342. | | 342.9 | ||
| 28/23, 39/32 | | 28/23, 39/32 | ||
| Trupminor 3rd | | Trupminor 3rd | ||
| Line 201: | Line 201: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 25 | | 25 | ||
| 357. | | 357.1 | ||
| 16/13 | | 16/13 | ||
| Trudmajor 3rd | | Trudmajor 3rd | ||
| Line 208: | Line 208: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 26 | | 26 | ||
| 371. | | 371.4 | ||
| 26/21 | | 26/21 | ||
| Dudmajor 3rd | | Dudmajor 3rd | ||
| Line 215: | Line 215: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 27 | | 27 | ||
| 385. | | 385.7 | ||
| 5/4 | | 5/4 | ||
| Downmajor 3rd | | Downmajor 3rd | ||
| Line 222: | Line 222: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 28 | | 28 | ||
| 400. | | 400.0 | ||
| 24/19 | | 24/19 | ||
| Major 3rd | | Major 3rd | ||
| Line 229: | Line 229: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 29 | | 29 | ||
| 414. | | 414.3 | ||
| 19/15 | | 19/15 | ||
| Upmajor 3rd | | Upmajor 3rd | ||
| Line 236: | Line 236: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 30 | | 30 | ||
| 428. | | 428.6 | ||
| 9/7, 23/18, 32/25 | | 9/7, 23/18, 32/25 | ||
| Dupmajor 3rd | | Dupmajor 3rd | ||
| Line 243: | Line 243: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 31 | | 31 | ||
| 442. | | 442.9 | ||
| 84/65 | | 84/65 | ||
| Trupmajor 3rd | | Trupmajor 3rd | ||
| Line 250: | Line 250: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 32 | | 32 | ||
| 457. | | 457.1 | ||
| 13/10, 30/23 | | 13/10, 30/23 | ||
| Trud 4th | | Trud 4th | ||
| Line 257: | Line 257: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 33 | | 33 | ||
| 471. | | 471.4 | ||
| 21/16 | | 21/16 | ||
| Dud 4th | | Dud 4th | ||
| Line 264: | Line 264: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 34 | | 34 | ||
| 485. | | 485.7 | ||
| 65/49 | | 65/49 | ||
| Down 4th | | Down 4th | ||
| Line 271: | Line 271: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 35 | | 35 | ||
| 500. | | 500.0 | ||
| 4/3 | | 4/3 | ||
| Perfect 4th | | Perfect 4th | ||
| Line 278: | Line 278: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 36 | | 36 | ||
| 514. | | 514.3 | ||
| 27/20 | | 27/20 | ||
| Up 4th | | Up 4th | ||
| Line 285: | Line 285: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 37 | | 37 | ||
| 528. | | 528.6 | ||
| 19/14 | | 19/14 | ||
| Dup 4th | | Dup 4th | ||
| Line 292: | Line 292: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 38 | | 38 | ||
| 542. | | 542.9 | ||
| 26/19 | | 26/19 | ||
| Trup 4th | | Trup 4th | ||
| Line 299: | Line 299: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 39 | | 39 | ||
| 557. | | 557.1 | ||
| 18/13 | | 18/13 | ||
| Trudaug 4th | | Trudaug 4th | ||
| Line 306: | Line 306: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 40 | | 40 | ||
| 571. | | 571.4 | ||
| 25/18, 32/23 | | 25/18, 32/23 | ||
| Dudaug 4th | | Dudaug 4th | ||
| Line 313: | Line 313: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 41 | | 41 | ||
| 585. | | 585.7 | ||
| 7/5 | | 7/5 | ||
| Downaug 4th | | Downaug 4th | ||
| Line 320: | Line 320: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 42 | | 42 | ||
| 600. | | 600.0 | ||
| 27/19, 38/27 | | 27/19, 38/27 | ||
| Aug 4th, Dim 5th | | Aug 4th, Dim 5th | ||
| Line 327: | Line 327: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 43 | | 43 | ||
| 614. | | 614.3 | ||
| 10/7 | | 10/7 | ||
| Updim 5th | | Updim 5th | ||
| Line 334: | Line 334: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 44 | | 44 | ||
| 628. | | 628.6 | ||
| 23/16, 36/25 | | 23/16, 36/25 | ||
| Dupdim 5th | | Dupdim 5th | ||
| Line 341: | Line 341: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 45 | | 45 | ||
| 642. | | 642.9 | ||
| 13/9 | | 13/9 | ||
| Trupdim 5th | | Trupdim 5th | ||
| Line 348: | Line 348: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 46 | | 46 | ||
| 657. | | 657.1 | ||
| 19/13 | | 19/13 | ||
| Trud 5th | | Trud 5th | ||
| Line 355: | Line 355: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 47 | | 47 | ||
| 671. | | 671.4 | ||
| 28/19 | | 28/19 | ||
| Dud 5th | | Dud 5th | ||
| Line 362: | Line 362: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 48 | | 48 | ||
| 685. | | 685.7 | ||
| 40/27 | | 40/27 | ||
| Down 5th | | Down 5th | ||
| Line 369: | Line 369: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 49 | | 49 | ||
| 700. | | 700.0 | ||
| 3/2 | | 3/2 | ||
| Perfect 5th | | Perfect 5th | ||
| Line 376: | Line 376: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 50 | | 50 | ||
| 714. | | 714.3 | ||
| 98/65 | | 98/65 | ||
| Up 5th | | Up 5th | ||
| Line 383: | Line 383: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 51 | | 51 | ||
| 728. | | 728.6 | ||
| 32/21 | | 32/21 | ||
| Dup 5th | | Dup 5th | ||
| Line 390: | Line 390: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 52 | | 52 | ||
| 742. | | 742.9 | ||
| 20/13, 23/15 | | 20/13, 23/15 | ||
| Trup 5th | | Trup 5th | ||
| Line 397: | Line 397: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 53 | | 53 | ||
| 757. | | 757.1 | ||
| 65/42 | | 65/42 | ||
| Trudminor 6th | | Trudminor 6th | ||
| Line 404: | Line 404: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 54 | | 54 | ||
| 771. | | 771.4 | ||
| 14/9, 25/16, 36/23 | | 14/9, 25/16, 36/23 | ||
| Dudminor 6th | | Dudminor 6th | ||
| Line 411: | Line 411: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 55 | | 55 | ||
| 785. | | 785.7 | ||
| 30/19 | | 30/19 | ||
| Downminor 6th | | Downminor 6th | ||
| Line 418: | Line 418: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 56 | | 56 | ||
| 800. | | 800.0 | ||
| 19/12 | | 19/12 | ||
| Minor 6th | | Minor 6th | ||
| Line 425: | Line 425: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 57 | | 57 | ||
| 814. | | 814.3 | ||
| 8/5 | | 8/5 | ||
| Upminor 6th | | Upminor 6th | ||
| Line 432: | Line 432: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 58 | | 58 | ||
| 828. | | 828.6 | ||
| 21/13 | | 21/13 | ||
| Dupminor 6th | | Dupminor 6th | ||
| Line 439: | Line 439: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 59 | | 59 | ||
| 842. | | 842.9 | ||
| 13/8 | | 13/8 | ||
| Trupminor 6th | | Trupminor 6th | ||
| Line 446: | Line 446: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 60 | | 60 | ||
| 857. | | 857.1 | ||
| 23/14, 64/39 | | 23/14, 64/39 | ||
| Trudmajor 6th | | Trudmajor 6th | ||
| Line 453: | Line 453: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 61 | | 61 | ||
| 871. | | 871.4 | ||
| 38/23 | | 38/23 | ||
| Dudmajor 6th | | Dudmajor 6th | ||
| Line 460: | Line 460: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 62 | | 62 | ||
| 885. | | 885.7 | ||
| 5/3 | | 5/3 | ||
| Downmajor 6th | | Downmajor 6th | ||
| Line 467: | Line 467: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 63 | | 63 | ||
| 900. | | 900.0 | ||
| 32/19, 27/16, 42/25 | | 32/19, 27/16, 42/25 | ||
| Major 6th | | Major 6th | ||
| Line 474: | Line 474: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 64 | | 64 | ||
| 914. | | 914.3 | ||
| 39/23, 76/45 | | 39/23, 76/45 | ||
| Upmajor 6th | | Upmajor 6th | ||
| Line 481: | Line 481: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 65 | | 65 | ||
| 928. | | 928.6 | ||
| 12/7 | | 12/7 | ||
| Dupmajor 6th | | Dupmajor 6th | ||
| Line 488: | Line 488: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 66 | | 66 | ||
| 942. | | 942.9 | ||
| 45/26 | | 45/26 | ||
| Trupmajor 6th | | Trupmajor 6th | ||
| Line 495: | Line 495: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 67 | | 67 | ||
| 957. | | 957.1 | ||
| 26/15, 40/23 | | 26/15, 40/23 | ||
| Trudminor 7th | | Trudminor 7th | ||
| Line 502: | Line 502: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 68 | | 68 | ||
| 971. | | 971.4 | ||
| 7/4 | | 7/4 | ||
| Dudminor 7th | | Dudminor 7th | ||
| Line 509: | Line 509: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 69 | | 69 | ||
| 985. | | 985.7 | ||
| 23/13 | | 23/13 | ||
| Downminor 7th | | Downminor 7th | ||
| Line 516: | Line 516: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 70 | | 70 | ||
| 1000. | | 1000.0 | ||
| 16/9 | | 16/9 | ||
| Minor 7th | | Minor 7th | ||
| Line 523: | Line 523: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 71 | | 71 | ||
| 1014. | | 1014.3 | ||
| 9/5 | | 9/5 | ||
| Upminor 7th | | Upminor 7th | ||
| Line 530: | Line 530: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 72 | | 72 | ||
| 1028. | | 1028.6 | ||
| 38/21 | | 38/21 | ||
| Dupminor 7th | | Dupminor 7th | ||
| Line 537: | Line 537: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 73 | | 73 | ||
| 1042. | | 1042.9 | ||
| 42/23 | | 42/23 | ||
| Trupminor 7th | | Trupminor 7th | ||
| Line 544: | Line 544: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 74 | | 74 | ||
| 1057. | | 1057.1 | ||
| 24/13 | | 24/13 | ||
| Trudmajor 7th | | Trudmajor 7th | ||
| Line 551: | Line 551: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 75 | | 75 | ||
| 1071. | | 1071.4 | ||
| 13/7 | | 13/7 | ||
| Dudmajor 7th | | Dudmajor 7th | ||
| Line 558: | Line 558: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 76 | | 76 | ||
| 1085. | | 1085.7 | ||
| 15/8, 28/15 | | 15/8, 28/15 | ||
| Downmajor 7th | | Downmajor 7th | ||
| Line 565: | Line 565: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 77 | | 77 | ||
| 1100. | | 1100.0 | ||
| 36/19 | | 36/19 | ||
| Major 7th | | Major 7th | ||
| Line 572: | Line 572: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 78 | | 78 | ||
| 1114. | | 1114.3 | ||
| 19/10, 40/21 | | 19/10, 40/21 | ||
| Upmajor 7th | | Upmajor 7th | ||
| Line 579: | Line 579: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 79 | | 79 | ||
| 1128. | | 1128.6 | ||
| 23/12, 25/13, ''27/14'', 48/25 | | 23/12, 25/13, ''27/14'', 48/25 | ||
| Dupmajor 7th | | Dupmajor 7th | ||
| Line 586: | Line 586: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 80 | | 80 | ||
| 1142. | | 1142.9 | ||
| ''52/27'' | | ''52/27'' | ||
| Trupmajor 7th | | Trupmajor 7th | ||
| Line 593: | Line 593: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 81 | | 81 | ||
| 1157. | | 1157.1 | ||
| 35/18, 39/20, 96/49 | | 35/18, 39/20, 96/49 | ||
| Trud 8ve | | Trud 8ve | ||
| Line 600: | Line 600: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 82 | | 82 | ||
| 1171. | | 1171.4 | ||
| 45/23, 49/25, 63/32, 128/65, ''180/91'' | | 45/23, 49/25, 63/32, 128/65, ''180/91'' | ||
| Dud 8ve | | Dud 8ve | ||
| Line 607: | Line 607: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 83 | | 83 | ||
| 1185. | | 1185.7 | ||
| 125/63, ''160/81'', 195/98, 336/169 | | 125/63, ''160/81'', 195/98, 336/169 | ||
| Down 8ve | | Down 8ve | ||
| Line 614: | Line 614: | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 84 | | 84 | ||
| 1200. | | 1200.0 | ||
| 2/1 | | 2/1 | ||
| Perfect 8ve | | Perfect 8ve | ||
| Line 620: | Line 620: | ||
| D | | D | ||
|} | |} | ||
<nowiki />* As a 2.3.5.7.13.19.23-subgroup temperament | <nowiki/>* As a 2.3.5.7.13.19.23-subgroup temperament | ||
== Notation == | == Notation == | ||
Revision as of 06:54, 16 February 2025
| ← 83edo | 84edo | 85edo → |
Theory
84edo shares the perfect fifth with 12edo, tempering out the Pythagorean comma in its patent val. In the 5-limit it tempers out the sensipent comma; in the 7-limit 225/224, 1728/1715, 2430/2401, 6144/6125, supporting orwell, compton, and sensei. In the 13-limit it is the optimal patent val for the rank-5 temperament tempering out 144/143.
84edo is where the orwell temperament takes its name from, since the generator of 7/6 is equal to 19 steps of the edo, referencing the book 1984. Orwell in 84edo comes in two varieties—the 84e val ⟨84 133 195 236 290], supporting the original orwell, and its patent val ⟨84 133 195 236 291] supporting newspeak. 84edo orwell offers mos scales of size 9, 13, 22, and 31, of which the 31-note scale is the maximal evenness scale.
High limit consistency and coverage
It has fairly good approximation to higher prime harmonics such as 13, 19, 23, 29, 31, 41, 43, 53, 59, 61, 73 and 89, so that it is for its size very performant for much of the 61-limit (with more off primes usually being sharp so that they can cancel opportunistically with other sharp harmonics). In fact, if we avoid all intervals of 11 and 17 as well as the complex compound prime powers 27 and 49, it is completely consistent in the no-37's no-47's 65-odd-limit excepting only 1 inconsistent pair, 45/43 and 86/45, which are inconsistent by ~1.3 ¢ (off by ~7.3 ¢), offering a truly vast inventory of harmony to draw from that has mostly been unexplored. This is especially true because its approximation powers do not end there: prime 11, due to its simplicity (and thus lesser tuning fidelity), is certainly usable (just causes some inconsistencies), and there are higher primes that are reasonably in-tune too (when supported by context). Except 17, the only missing primes are thus 37, 47, 67, 71, 79 and 83, which coincidentally are all about 6 cents sharp, similar to the sharpness of prime 11, so that it somewhat makes up for these omissions by having a very accurate 22:37:47:67:71:79:83 chord, to which various additions are possible (though usually increasing the error as a result).
Prime harmonics
| Harmonic | 2 | 3 | 5 | 7 | 11 | 13 | 17 | 19 | 23 | 29 | 31 | 37 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Error | Absolute (¢) | +0.00 | -1.96 | -0.60 | +2.60 | +5.82 | +2.33 | -4.96 | +2.49 | +0.30 | -1.01 | -2.18 | +5.80 |
| Relative (%) | +0.0 | -13.7 | -4.2 | +18.2 | +40.8 | +16.3 | -34.7 | +17.4 | +2.1 | -7.0 | -15.2 | +40.6 | |
| Steps (reduced) |
84 (0) |
133 (49) |
195 (27) |
236 (68) |
291 (39) |
311 (59) |
343 (7) |
357 (21) |
380 (44) |
408 (72) |
416 (80) |
438 (18) | |
| Harmonic | 41 | 43 | 47 | 53 | 59 | 61 | 67 | 71 | 73 | 79 | 83 | 89 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Error | Absolute (¢) | -0.49 | +2.77 | +5.92 | -2.08 | -2.03 | -2.60 | +6.41 | +6.02 | +0.78 | +6.89 | +7.10 | +0.55 |
| Relative (%) | -3.4 | +19.4 | +41.5 | -14.5 | -14.2 | -18.2 | +44.9 | +42.1 | +5.5 | +48.2 | +49.7 | +3.8 | |
| Steps (reduced) |
450 (30) |
456 (36) |
467 (47) |
481 (61) |
494 (74) |
498 (78) |
510 (6) |
517 (13) |
520 (16) |
530 (26) |
536 (32) |
544 (40) | |
Subsets and supersets
84 is a largely composite number. Since 84 factors as 22 × 3 × 7, 84edo has subset edos 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 12, 14, 21, 28, 42. Being a small multiple of 28, it tempers out the oquatonic comma, which maps 5/4 to 9\28.
Intervals
| # | Cents | Approximate ratios* | Ups and downs notation | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0 | 0.0 | 1/1 | Perfect 1sn | P1 | D |
| 1 | 14.3 | 81/80, 105/104, 126/125, 169/168, 196/195 | Up 1sn | ^1 | ^D |
| 2 | 28.6 | 50/49, 64/63, 65/64, 91/90 | Dup 1sn | ^^1 | ^^D |
| 3 | 42.9 | 36/35, 40/39, 46/45, 49/48 | Trup 1sn | ^^^1 | ^^^D |
| 4 | 57.1 | 27/26 | Trudminor 2nd | vvvm2 | vvvEb |
| 5 | 71.4 | 24/23, 25/24, 26/25, 28/27 | Dudminor 2nd | vvm2 | vvEb |
| 6 | 85.7 | 20/19, 21/20 | Downminor 2nd | vm2 | vEb |
| 7 | 100.0 | 19/18 | Minor 2nd | m2 | Eb |
| 8 | 114.3 | 15/14, 16/15 | Upminor 2nd | ^m2 | ^Eb |
| 9 | 128.6 | 14/13 | Dupminor 2nd | ^^m2 | ^^Eb |
| 10 | 142.9 | 13/12 | Trupminor 2nd | ^^^m2 | ^^^Eb |
| 11 | 157.1 | 23/21 | Trudmajor 2nd | vvvM2 | vvvE |
| 12 | 171.4 | 21/19 | Dudmajor 2nd | vvM2 | vvE |
| 13 | 185.7 | 10/9 | Downmajor 2nd | vM2 | vE |
| 14 | 200.0 | 9/8 | Major 2nd | M2 | E |
| 15 | 214.3 | 26/23 | Upmajor 2nd | ^M2 | ^E |
| 16 | 228.6 | 8/7 | Dupmajor 2nd | ^^M2 | ^^E |
| 17 | 242.9 | 15/13, 23/20 | Trupmajor 2nd | ^^^M2 | ^^^E |
| 18 | 257.1 | 52/45 | Trudminor 3rd | vvvm3 | vvvF |
| 19 | 271.4 | 7/6 | Dudminor 3rd | vvm2 | vvF |
| 20 | 285.7 | 45/38, 46/39 | Downminor 3rd | vm3 | vF |
| 21 | 300.0 | 19/16, 25/21, 32/27 | Minor 3rd | m3 | F |
| 22 | 314.3 | 6/5 | Upminor 3rd | ^m3 | ^F |
| 23 | 328.6 | 23/19 | Dupminor 3rd | ^^m3 | ^^F |
| 24 | 342.9 | 28/23, 39/32 | Trupminor 3rd | ^^^m3 | ^^^F |
| 25 | 357.1 | 16/13 | Trudmajor 3rd | vvvM3 | vvvF# |
| 26 | 371.4 | 26/21 | Dudmajor 3rd | vvM3 | vvF# |
| 27 | 385.7 | 5/4 | Downmajor 3rd | vM3 | vF# |
| 28 | 400.0 | 24/19 | Major 3rd | M3 | F# |
| 29 | 414.3 | 19/15 | Upmajor 3rd | ^M3 | ^F# |
| 30 | 428.6 | 9/7, 23/18, 32/25 | Dupmajor 3rd | ^^M3 | ^^F# |
| 31 | 442.9 | 84/65 | Trupmajor 3rd | ^^^M3 | ^^^F# |
| 32 | 457.1 | 13/10, 30/23 | Trud 4th | vvv4 | vvvG |
| 33 | 471.4 | 21/16 | Dud 4th | vv4 | vvG |
| 34 | 485.7 | 65/49 | Down 4th | v4 | vG |
| 35 | 500.0 | 4/3 | Perfect 4th | P4 | G |
| 36 | 514.3 | 27/20 | Up 4th | ^4 | ^G |
| 37 | 528.6 | 19/14 | Dup 4th | ^^4 | ^^G |
| 38 | 542.9 | 26/19 | Trup 4th | ^^^4 | ^^^G |
| 39 | 557.1 | 18/13 | Trudaug 4th | vvvA4 | vvvG# |
| 40 | 571.4 | 25/18, 32/23 | Dudaug 4th | vvA4 | vvG# |
| 41 | 585.7 | 7/5 | Downaug 4th | vA4 | vG# |
| 42 | 600.0 | 27/19, 38/27 | Aug 4th, Dim 5th | A4, d5 | G#, Ab |
| 43 | 614.3 | 10/7 | Updim 5th | ^d5 | ^Ab |
| 44 | 628.6 | 23/16, 36/25 | Dupdim 5th | ^^d5 | ^^Ab |
| 45 | 642.9 | 13/9 | Trupdim 5th | ^^^d5 | ^^^Ab |
| 46 | 657.1 | 19/13 | Trud 5th | vvv5 | vvvA |
| 47 | 671.4 | 28/19 | Dud 5th | vv5 | vvA |
| 48 | 685.7 | 40/27 | Down 5th | v5 | vA |
| 49 | 700.0 | 3/2 | Perfect 5th | P5 | A |
| 50 | 714.3 | 98/65 | Up 5th | ^5 | ^A |
| 51 | 728.6 | 32/21 | Dup 5th | ^^5 | ^^A |
| 52 | 742.9 | 20/13, 23/15 | Trup 5th | ^^^5 | ^^^A |
| 53 | 757.1 | 65/42 | Trudminor 6th | vvvm6 | vvvBb |
| 54 | 771.4 | 14/9, 25/16, 36/23 | Dudminor 6th | vvm6 | vvBb |
| 55 | 785.7 | 30/19 | Downminor 6th | vm6 | vBb |
| 56 | 800.0 | 19/12 | Minor 6th | m6 | Bb |
| 57 | 814.3 | 8/5 | Upminor 6th | ^m6 | ^Bb |
| 58 | 828.6 | 21/13 | Dupminor 6th | ^^m6 | ^^Bb |
| 59 | 842.9 | 13/8 | Trupminor 6th | ^^^m6 | ^^^Bb |
| 60 | 857.1 | 23/14, 64/39 | Trudmajor 6th | vvvM6 | vvvB |
| 61 | 871.4 | 38/23 | Dudmajor 6th | vvM6 | vvB |
| 62 | 885.7 | 5/3 | Downmajor 6th | vM6 | vB |
| 63 | 900.0 | 32/19, 27/16, 42/25 | Major 6th | M6 | B |
| 64 | 914.3 | 39/23, 76/45 | Upmajor 6th | ^M6 | ^B |
| 65 | 928.6 | 12/7 | Dupmajor 6th | ^^M6 | ^^B |
| 66 | 942.9 | 45/26 | Trupmajor 6th | ^^^M6 | ^^^B |
| 67 | 957.1 | 26/15, 40/23 | Trudminor 7th | vvvm7 | vvvC |
| 68 | 971.4 | 7/4 | Dudminor 7th | vvm7 | vvC |
| 69 | 985.7 | 23/13 | Downminor 7th | vm7 | vC |
| 70 | 1000.0 | 16/9 | Minor 7th | m7 | C |
| 71 | 1014.3 | 9/5 | Upminor 7th | ^m7 | ^C |
| 72 | 1028.6 | 38/21 | Dupminor 7th | ^^m7 | ^^C |
| 73 | 1042.9 | 42/23 | Trupminor 7th | ^^^m7 | ^^^C |
| 74 | 1057.1 | 24/13 | Trudmajor 7th | vvvM7 | vvvC# |
| 75 | 1071.4 | 13/7 | Dudmajor 7th | vvM7 | vvC# |
| 76 | 1085.7 | 15/8, 28/15 | Downmajor 7th | vM7 | vC# |
| 77 | 1100.0 | 36/19 | Major 7th | M7 | C# |
| 78 | 1114.3 | 19/10, 40/21 | Upmajor 7th | ^M7 | ^C# |
| 79 | 1128.6 | 23/12, 25/13, 27/14, 48/25 | Dupmajor 7th | ^^M7 | ^^C# |
| 80 | 1142.9 | 52/27 | Trupmajor 7th | ^^^M7 | ^^^C# |
| 81 | 1157.1 | 35/18, 39/20, 96/49 | Trud 8ve | vvv8 | vvvD |
| 82 | 1171.4 | 45/23, 49/25, 63/32, 128/65, 180/91 | Dud 8ve | vv8 | vvD |
| 83 | 1185.7 | 125/63, 160/81, 195/98, 336/169 | Down 8ve | v8 | vD |
| 84 | 1200.0 | 2/1 | Perfect 8ve | P8 | D |
* As a 2.3.5.7.13.19.23-subgroup temperament
Notation
4L 5s (gramitonic) notation
This notation is based on Orwell[9]. Notes are denoted as LsLsLsLss = JKLMNOPQRJ, and raising and lowering by a chroma (L − s), 3 steps in this instance, is denoted by & ("amp") and @ ("at").
| # | Cents | Note | Name | Associated Ratio |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0 | 0.0 | J | Perfect 0-gramstep | 1/1 |
| 8 | 114.3 | K@ | Minor 1-gramstep | 15/14~16/15 |
| 11 | 157.1 | K | Major 1-gramstep | 11/10~12/11 |
| 16 | 228.6 | L@ | Diminished 2-gramstep | 8/7 |
| 19 | 271.4 | L | Perfect 2-gramstep | 7/6 |
| 27 | 385.7 | M@ | Minor 3-gramstep | 5/4 |
| 30 | 428.6 | M | Major 3-gramstep | 9/7 |
| 35 | 500.0 | N@ | Minor 4-gramstep | 4/3 |
| 38 | 542.9 | N | Major 4-gramstep | 11/8~15/11 |
| 46 | 657.1 | O@ | Minor 5-gramstep | 16/11~22/15 |
| 49 | 700.0 | O | Major 5-gramstep | 3/2 |
| 54 | 771.4 | P@ | Minor 6-gramstep | 14/9 |
| 57 | 814.3 | P | Major 6-gramstep | 8/5 |
| 65 | 928.6 | Q@ | Perfect 7-gramstep | 12/7 |
| 68 | 971.4 | Q | Augmented 7-gramstep | 7/4 |
| 73 | 1042.9 | R@ | Minor 8-gramstep | 11/6~20/11 |
| 76 | 1085.7 | R | Major 8-gramstep | 15/8~28/15 |
| 84 | 1200.0 | J | Perfect 9-gramstep | 2/1 |
Ups and downs notation
Using Helmholtz–Ellis accidentals, 84edo can be notated using ups and downs notation:
| Step offset | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sharp symbol | |
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| Flat symbol |
Approximation to JI
Zeta peak index
| Tuning | Strength | Closest edo | Integer limit | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ZPI | Steps per octave | Step size (cents) | Height | Integral | Gap | Edo | Octave (cents) | Consistent | Distinct |
| 462zpi | 83.9972142607288 | 14.2861880666087 | 8.020965 | 1.241945 | 16.733121 | 84edo | 1200.03979759513 | 10 | 10 |
Regular temperament properties
| Subgroup | Comma list | Mapping | Optimal 8ve stretch (¢) |
Tuning error | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Absolute (¢) | Relative (%) | ||||
| 2.3.5 | 78732/78125, 531441/524288 | [⟨84 133 195]] | +0.498 | 0.531 | 3.72 |
| 2.3.5.7 | 225/224, 1728/1715, 78732/78125 | [⟨84 133 195 236]] | +0.141 | 0.769 | 5.39 |
| 2.3.5.7.13 | 225/224, 351/350, 640/637, 1701/1690 | [⟨84 133 195 236 311]] | −0.013 | 0.754 | 5.28 |
| 2.3.5.7.11 | 225/224, 441/440, 1344/1331, 1728/1715 | [⟨84 133 195 236 291]] (84) | −0.225 | 1.003 | 7.02 |
| 2.3.5.7.11.13 | 144/143, 225/224, 351/350, 441/440, 975/968 | [⟨84 133 195 236 291 311]] (84) | −0.292 | 0.928 | 6.50 |
| 2.3.5.7.11 | 99/98, 121/120, 176/175, 78732/78125 | [⟨84 133 195 236 290]] (84e) | +0.601 | 1.151 | 8.05 |
| 2.3.5.7.11.13 | 99/98, 121/120, 176/175, 275/273, 1701/1690 | [⟨84 133 195 236 290 311]] (84e) | +0.396 | 1.146 | 8.02 |
Rank-2 temperaments
| Periods per 8ve |
Generator* | Cents* | Associated ratio* |
Temperament |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 19\84 | 271.43 | 7/6 | Orwell (84e) / newspeak (84) |
| 1 | 25\84 | 357.14 | 768/625 | Dodifo |
| 1 | 27\84 | 385.71 | 5/4 | Mutt |
| 1 | 31\84 | 442.86 | 125/81 | Sensei |
| 1 | 41\84 | 585.71 | 7/5 | Merman |
| 2 | 5\84 | 71.43 | 25/24 | Narayana |
| 2 | 11\84 | 157.14 | 35/32 | Bison |
| 2 | 13\84 | 185.71 | 10/9 | Secant |
| 3 | 11\84 | 157.14 | 35/32 | Nessafof |
| 7 | 5\84 | 500.00 (14.29) |
4/3 (81/80) |
Absurdity |
| 12 | 27\84 (1\84) |
385.71 (14.29) |
5/4 (126/125) |
Compton |
| 21 | 41\84 (1\84) |
585.71 (14.29) |
91875/65536 (126/125) |
Akjayland |
| 28 | 49\84 (1\84) |
500.00 (14.29) |
4/3 (105/104) |
Oquatonic |
* Octave-reduced form, reduced to the first half-octave, and minimal form in parentheses if distinct
Scales
MOS
Brightest mode is listed.
Other
Instruments
If you have a precise enough tuner and stable enough instruments, 84edo can be played using 7 instruments tuned a 14th of a tone apart.
You could also try the Lumatone mapping for 84edo
Music
- Ten for chamber ensemble (1991) Ives Ensemble recording (YouTube) [dead link]
- Two4 for violin and piano or shō (1991) Harr & Miyata recording (YouTube)
- Two5 for tenor trombone and piano (1991) Fulkerson & Denyer recording (YouTube)
- Two6 for violin and piano (1992) Haar & Snijders recording (YouTube)
- Requiem in Gb 1/7 Orwell (2023)
- Undiminished (2023)

































