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== Theory ==
== Theory ==
145 = 5 × 29, and 145edo shares the same perfect fifth with [[29edo]]. It is generally a sharp-tending system, with prime harmonics 3 to 23 all tuned sharp except for 7, which is slightly flat. It is [[consistent]] to the [[11-odd-limit]], or the no-13 no-15 23-odd-limit, with [[13/7]], [[15/8]] and their [[octave complement]]s being the only intervals going over the line.  
145 = 5 × 29, and 145edo shares the same perfect fifth with [[29edo]]. It is generally a sharp-tending system, with [[prime harmonic]]s 3 to 23 all tuned sharp except for 7, which is slightly flat. It is [[consistent]] to the [[11-odd-limit]], or the no-13 no-15 [[23-odd-limit]], with [[13/7]], [[15/8]] and their [[octave complement]]s being the only intervals going over the line.  


As an equal temperament, 145et [[tempering out|tempers out]] [[1600000/1594323]] in the [[5-limit]]; [[4375/4374]] and [[5120/5103]] in the [[7-limit]]; [[441/440]] and [[896/891]] in the 11-limit; [[196/195]], [[352/351]] and [[364/363]] in the 13-limit; [[595/594]] in the 17-limit; [[343/342]] and [[476/475]] in the 19-limit.  
As an equal temperament, 145et [[tempering out|tempers out]] [[1600000/1594323]] in the [[5-limit]]; [[4375/4374]] and [[5120/5103]] in the [[7-limit]]; [[441/440]] and [[896/891]] in the 11-limit; [[196/195]], [[352/351]], [[364/363]], [[676/675]], [[847/845]], and [[1001/1000]] in the 13-limit; [[595/594]] in the 17-limit; [[343/342]] and [[476/475]] in the 19-limit.  


It is the [[optimal patent val]] for the 11-limit [[mystery]] temperament and the 11-limit rank-3 [[pele]] temperament. It also [[support]]s and provides a good tuning for 13-limit mystery, and because it tempers out 441/440 it allows [[werckismic chords]], because it tempers out 196/195 it allows [[mynucumic chords]], because it tempers out 352/351 it allows [[minthmic chords]], because it tempers out 364/363 it allows [[gentle chords]], and because it tempers out 847/845 it allows the [[cuthbert chords]], making it a very flexible harmonic system. The same is true of [[232edo]], the optimal patent val for 13-limit mystery.  
It is the [[optimal patent val]] for the 11-limit [[mystery]] temperament and the 11-limit rank-3 [[pele]] temperament. It also [[support]]s and provides a good tuning for 13-limit mystery, and because it tempers out 441/440 it allows [[werckismic chords]], because it tempers out 196/195 it allows [[mynucumic chords]], because it tempers out 352/351 it allows [[major minthmic chords]], because it tempers out 364/363 it allows [[minor minthmic chords]], and because it tempers out 847/845 it allows the [[cuthbert chords]], making it a very flexible harmonic system. The same is true of [[232edo]], the optimal patent val for 13-limit mystery.  


The 145c val provides a tuning for [[magic]] which is nearly identical to the [[POTE tuning]].  
The 145c val provides a tuning for [[magic]] which is nearly identical to the [[POTE tuning]].  

Revision as of 08:02, 27 January 2025

← 144edo 145edo 146edo →
Prime factorization 5 × 29
Step size 8.27586 ¢ 
Fifth 85\145 (703.448 ¢) (→ 17\29)
Semitones (A1:m2) 15:10 (124.1 ¢ : 82.76 ¢)
Consistency limit 11
Distinct consistency limit 11

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Theory

145 = 5 × 29, and 145edo shares the same perfect fifth with 29edo. It is generally a sharp-tending system, with prime harmonics 3 to 23 all tuned sharp except for 7, which is slightly flat. It is consistent to the 11-odd-limit, or the no-13 no-15 23-odd-limit, with 13/7, 15/8 and their octave complements being the only intervals going over the line.

As an equal temperament, 145et tempers out 1600000/1594323 in the 5-limit; 4375/4374 and 5120/5103 in the 7-limit; 441/440 and 896/891 in the 11-limit; 196/195, 352/351, 364/363, 676/675, 847/845, and 1001/1000 in the 13-limit; 595/594 in the 17-limit; 343/342 and 476/475 in the 19-limit.

It is the optimal patent val for the 11-limit mystery temperament and the 11-limit rank-3 pele temperament. It also supports and provides a good tuning for 13-limit mystery, and because it tempers out 441/440 it allows werckismic chords, because it tempers out 196/195 it allows mynucumic chords, because it tempers out 352/351 it allows major minthmic chords, because it tempers out 364/363 it allows minor minthmic chords, and because it tempers out 847/845 it allows the cuthbert chords, making it a very flexible harmonic system. The same is true of 232edo, the optimal patent val for 13-limit mystery.

The 145c val provides a tuning for magic which is nearly identical to the POTE tuning.

Prime harmonics

Approximation of prime harmonics in 145edo
Harmonic 2 3 5 7 11 13 17 19 23 29 31
Error Absolute (¢) +0.00 +1.49 +2.65 -0.55 +3.16 +3.61 +2.63 +0.42 +0.69 -3.37 -2.97
Relative (%) +0.0 +18.0 +32.0 -6.6 +38.2 +43.6 +31.8 +5.1 +8.4 -40.7 -35.8
Steps
(reduced)
145
(0)
230
(85)
337
(47)
407
(117)
502
(67)
537
(102)
593
(13)
616
(36)
656
(76)
704
(124)
718
(138)

Subsets and supersets

145edo contains 5edo and 29edo as subset edos.

Regular temperament properties

Subgroup Comma List Mapping Optimal
8ve Stretch (¢)
Tuning Error
Absolute (¢) Relative (%)
2.3.5 1600000/1594323, [28 -3 -10 [145 230 337]] -0.695 0.498 6.02
2.3.5.7 4375/4374, 5120/5103, 50421/50000 [145 230 337 407]] -0.472 0.578 6.99
2.3.5.7.11 441/440, 896/891, 3388/3375, 4375/4374 [145 230 337 407 502]] -0.561 0.547 6.61
2.3.5.7.11.13 196/195, 352/351, 364/363, 676/675, 4375/4374 [145 230 337 407 502 537]] -0.630 0.522 6.32
2.3.5.7.11.13.17 196/195, 256/255, 352/351, 364/363, 676/675, 1156/1155 [145 230 337 407 502 537 593]] -0.632 0.484 5.85

Rank-2 temperaments

Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator
Periods
per 8ve
Generator* Cents* Associated
Ratio*
Temperaments
1 2\145 16.55 100/99 Quincy
1 12\145 99.31 18/17 Quinticosiennic
1 14\145 115.86 77/72 Countermiracle
1 39\145 322.76 3087/2560 Seniority / senator
1 41\145 339.31 128/105 Amity / catamite
5 67\145
(9\145)
554.48
(74.48)
11/8
(25/24)
Trisedodge / countdown
29 60\145
(2\145)
496.55
(16.55)
4/3
(100/99)
Mystery

Scales

Music

Chris Vaisvil (site)