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*'''"Tuning methods" Project''' | *'''"Tuning methods" Project''' | ||
**[[User:Mousemambo/Tuning methods]]. Add this new major page (or set of pages). I will note that there are excellent existing resources, like the [[Making Microtonal Music is Easier Than You’d Think]] page archived here from its original source. The problem with these is that they go out of date easily. Therefore, I am proposing a wiki solution that will be available for community maintenance including significant updates as appropriate. | **[[User:Mousemambo/Tuning methods]]. Add this new major page (or set of pages). I will note that there are excellent existing resources, like the [[Making Microtonal Music is Easier Than You’d Think]] page archived here from its original source. The problem with these is that they go out of date easily. Therefore, I am proposing a wiki solution that will be available for community maintenance including significant updates as appropriate. | ||
**See the section | **See the section "[[User:Mousemambo/Workbench#Practical tuning for beginners pages|Practical tuning for beginners pages]]" below for a list of what's currently available on the topic at this wiki and a few outside links. | ||
**To better understand how the "Tuning methods" document would work with a(the) planned how-to guide(s), I have started one example how-to guide tentatively titled "[[User:Mousemambo/Document draft|Guide to Tuning a Software Synth in a DAW]]" using Surge XT and Reaper as (primary) examples. | **To better understand how the "Tuning methods" document would work with a(the) planned how-to guide(s), I have started one example how-to guide tentatively titled "[[User:Mousemambo/Document draft|Guide to Tuning a Software Synth in a DAW]]" using Surge XT and Reaper as (primary) examples. | ||
** New article [[User:Mousemambo/Scala tuning system|Scala tuning system]]. It's currently a draft outline that needs to be filled in, in part with material from the significantly flawed, sometimes simply wrong, material in [[User:Mousemambo/Document 2 draft]]. Lots of work. | ** New article [[User:Mousemambo/Scala tuning system|Scala tuning system]]. It's currently a draft outline that needs to be filled in, in part with material from the significantly flawed, sometimes simply wrong, material in [[User:Mousemambo/Document 2 draft]]. Lots of work. | ||
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**Category: Tuning methods. A category that would encompass all articles about how electronic instruments are made to adhere to alternative (non-12-EDO) tunings. "Practical tuning" or "Tuning practices" or Tuning mechanisms" or "Tuning technique" (currently in use but deprecated with redirect) or "Tuning practice" are alternatives perhaps? I note that the current [[:Category:Tuning]] is about the theoretical side and not at all the practical side. However, it might instead be best to stick everything in Tuning, practical and theoretical, although that's not the direction I currently lean toward. I'd rather see "Tuning methods" offered as a category on the Category:Tuning page, and hide all the "methods" pages in there. | **Category: Tuning methods. A category that would encompass all articles about how electronic instruments are made to adhere to alternative (non-12-EDO) tunings. "Practical tuning" or "Tuning practices" or Tuning mechanisms" or "Tuning technique" (currently in use but deprecated with redirect) or "Tuning practice" are alternatives perhaps? I note that the current [[:Category:Tuning]] is about the theoretical side and not at all the practical side. However, it might instead be best to stick everything in Tuning, practical and theoretical, although that's not the direction I currently lean toward. I'd rather see "Tuning methods" offered as a category on the Category:Tuning page, and hide all the "methods" pages in there. | ||
*'''Indian music''' ([[User:Mousemambo/Indian music]]). Replace the existing article "[[Indian]]" which, by the way, has a strange and dismaying page title (see below). Provide some history and current usage of tuning selections in the various branches of Indian music, and links to outside information. See the "[[User:Mousemambo/Workbench#Indian music|Indian music]]" section below for a review of what this wiki already has on the topic. | *'''Indian music''' ([[User:Mousemambo/Indian music]]). Replace the existing article "[[Indian]]" which, by the way, has a strange and dismaying page title (see below). Provide some history and current usage of tuning selections in the various branches of Indian music, and links to outside information. See the "[[User:Mousemambo/Workbench#Indian music|Indian music]]" section below for a review of what this wiki already has on the topic. | ||
*'''Scale and tuning system design'''. I'm interested in what goes into selecting a "good" scale or tuning system, and what "good" means. It probably means "useful for making music I like listening to" which just moves the question to "What is it about scales and tunings that have been found to help make music that appeals to many people?" A good question for generating an article or set of them -- "Scale design" and "Tuning system design" for example. | *'''Scale and tuning system design'''. I'm interested as a beginner in what goes into selecting a "good" scale or tuning system, and what "good" means. It probably means "useful for making music I like listening to" which just moves the question to "What is it about scales and tunings that have been found to help make music that appeals to many people?" A good question for generating an article or set of them -- "Scale design" and "Tuning system design" for example. See the section "[[User:Mousemambo/Workbench#Scale and tuning system design|Scale and tuning system design]]" below for a collection of relevant links. [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] has [https://discord.com/channels/332357996569034752/780300193110818826/1140877544988622848 suggested on Discord Xen#wiki] that he's interested in adding a "Scale design" section to the "Scale" page, so watch for that. I noted there that some criteria for a "good" (musically useful) tuning system might be that it has correspondence to the harmonic series, especially the fifth and/or third; includes many fifths among its intervals; is an EDO; is a MOS scale, more. | ||
==Practical tuning for beginners pages== | ==Practical tuning for beginners pages== | ||
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I note that under [[:Category:Traditions]] all the cultural traditions (not just Indian) are named with strange and somewhat dismaying names that omit the word "music" that should follow. E.g. Indian, Arabic and Greek should sensibly be Indian music, Arabic music, and Greek music. The words "Indian," "Arabic," and "Greek" by themselves can mean a people, a culture, or (except for Indian) a language. I believe that these page names and category names should specify "music" or "microtonality" or something else specific. Wikipedia (which this is not) follows [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:NOUN&redirect=no WP:Noun]. | I note that under [[:Category:Traditions]] all the cultural traditions (not just Indian) are named with strange and somewhat dismaying names that omit the word "music" that should follow. E.g. Indian, Arabic and Greek should sensibly be Indian music, Arabic music, and Greek music. The words "Indian," "Arabic," and "Greek" by themselves can mean a people, a culture, or (except for Indian) a language. I believe that these page names and category names should specify "music" or "microtonality" or something else specific. Wikipedia (which this is not) follows [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:NOUN&redirect=no WP:Noun]. | ||
== Scale and tuning system design == | |||
An early & developing collection of links to articles relevant to the questions of what makes a "good" scale for music, what makes a "good" tuning system, and what "good" might mean in those contexts. | |||
* In the Xen wiki | |||
** [[Mike Sheiman's Very Easy Scale Building From The Harmonic Series Page]] | |||
* Outside the Xen wiki | |||
== Toolkit== | == Toolkit== | ||