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'''25/21''', the '''quasi-tempered minor third''', is the interval between [[6/5]] and [[10/7]], and also [[7/5]] and [[5/3]]. It is [[225/224]] sharp of [[32/27]], [[126/125]] flat of [[6/5]], and [[tempering out]] 126/125 makes the 1–6/5–10/7 triad into a [[diminished triad]] where two minor thirds make up a [[tritone]]. It is extremely close to 3 steps of [[12edo]] (300 cents).
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">25/21, the quasi-tempered minor third, is the interval between [[6_5|6/5]] and [[10_7|10/7]], and also [[7_5|7/5]] and [[5_3|5/3]]. It is 126/125 flat of 6/5, and tempering 126/125 out makes the 1-6/5-10/7 triad into a diminished triad where two minor thirds make up a tritone.</pre></div>
25/21 is also an important interval in the [[Bohlen–Pierce scale]], where it represents a "BP whole tone", i.e. the large step in the [[4L 5s (3/1-equivalent)|Lambda scale]].
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;25_21&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;25/21, the quasi-tempered minor third, is the interval between &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/6_5"&gt;6/5&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/10_7"&gt;10/7&lt;/a&gt;, and also &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7_5"&gt;7/5&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5_3"&gt;5/3&lt;/a&gt;. It is 126/125 flat of 6/5, and tempering 126/125 out makes the 1-6/5-10/7 triad into a diminished triad where two minor thirds make up a tritone.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
== Approximation ==
{{Interval edo approximation|25/21}}
 
== See also ==
* [[42/25]] – its [[octave complement]]
* [[63/50]] – its [[fifth complement]]
* [[28/25]] – its [[fourth complement]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [[:File:Ji-25-21-csound-foscil-220hz.mp3]] - another sound example
 
[[Category:Third]]
[[Category:Minor third]]
[[Category:Marvel]]

Latest revision as of 13:11, 12 December 2025

Interval information
Ratio 25/21
Factorization 3-1 × 52 × 7-1
Monzo [0 -1 2 -1
Size in cents 301.8465¢
Name quasi-tempered minor third
Color name ryy2, ruyoyo 2nd
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{A2}^{5,5}_{7} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 9.03617
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 9.28771
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 20

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25/21, the quasi-tempered minor third, is the interval between 6/5 and 10/7, and also 7/5 and 5/3. It is 225/224 sharp of 32/27, 126/125 flat of 6/5, and tempering out 126/125 makes the 1–6/5–10/7 triad into a diminished triad where two minor thirds make up a tritone. It is extremely close to 3 steps of 12edo (300 cents).

25/21 is also an important interval in the Bohlen–Pierce scale, where it represents a "BP whole tone", i.e. the large step in the Lambda scale.

Approximation

Edo approximations for 25/21 (301.85 ¢)
≤ 80edo, relative error ≤ 10%
Edo Step size Cents (¢) Absolute error (¢) Relative error (%)
4 1\4 300.00 -1.85 -0.62
8 2\8 300.00 -1.85 -1.23
12 3\12 300.00 -1.85 -1.85
16 4\16 300.00 -1.85 -2.46
20 5\20 300.00 -1.85 -3.08
24 6\24 300.00 -1.85 -3.69
28 7\28 300.00 -1.85 -4.31
32 8\32 300.00 -1.85 -4.92
36 9\36 300.00 -1.85 -5.54
40 10\40 300.00 -1.85 -6.16
44 11\44 300.00 -1.85 -6.77
48 12\48 300.00 -1.85 -7.39
52 13\52 300.00 -1.85 -8.00
56 14\56 300.00 -1.85 -8.62
60 15\60 300.00 -1.85 -9.23
64 16\64 300.00 -1.85 -9.85

See also