Xenharmonic Wiki:Things to do
Hello there! This page is a place for various projects and minute things to do on this wiki. Please be welcome to help with any of them you like!
If you think something essential was forgotten and should be here, don’t be shy to add a new section here! If you don’t know if a project would be interesting to others, write at the talk page and let’s decide it together.
When the technical help is needed, please aid volunteers with a tool or two for being sure the details are easy to make right. For example, a template, a converter etc..
- See also Conventions, Wikifuture, Migration FAQ as well as Category:Todo and its subcategories.
Details to fill out in articles
- Interval pages like 3/2
- <Please write what may still be desired>
- <Other kinds of pages>
Archiving outdated discussions
Discussion pages tend to become confusing over time. The sections at the beginning are often long since finished. This tendency is easy to observe, but hardly anyone knows how to archive outdated articles.
We probably need some templates to support archiving. Moving old sections to subpage(s) is not as hard, but a bit of automatic decoration/guidance/navigation would help people to do this.
Automated archiving would be nice, but not essential in the first place.
Infobox for EDO pages
In EDO pages (see for example 23edo, 74edo, 167edo), core information is currently still given in prose, which makes it difficult to get this information together. Adding another infobox template would help to present and manage the formal information.
At the moment, we tend to include of these core characteristics
- step count
- step size
- patent val
Join our discussion: Xenharmonic Wiki talk:Things to do #Infobox for EDO pages
Categories of interval pages
There are lots of interval pages in the wiki, for example 3/2, 8/7, 25/24, 11/8... We developed an info box that brings the core features together. Still open is the question which category name would fit best for all of them. We currently observe a seemingly random mix of
At present, it appears that we will replace most of them with Category:Rational interval" in the future.
Please join our discussion in Xenharmonic Wiki talk:Things to do #Relations of various interval categories! Thanks 🙂
Proposal: Shorten editing titles
When using tabbed browsing, long identical prefixes (like Editing ) in titles make it hard to differentiate tabs of wiki pages currently being edited.
| system message | predefined text | suggested text |
|---|---|---|
| MediaWiki:Editingcomment | Editing $1 (new section) | ✎ $1 (new section) |
| MediaWiki:Editing | Editing $1 | ✎ $1 |
| MediaWiki:Editingsection | Editing $1 (section) | ✎ $1 (section) |
What do you think about the proposed change?
Join the discussion at Xenharmonic Wiki talk:Things to do #Shorten editing titles
Get rid of "alternative pages"
There are some pages that were mostly started out of frustration of on particular user not any more active in this wiki. The problem with diverging pages about the same topic is that linking to it tends to break or at least dissipate the consistency of the entire wiki. As normally would be the case with pages targeting the same topic but created by chance, the content should be merged into the (mostly obvious) main page. If there is noting valuable on it, the pages should be deleted. The pages are currently in the Category:Alternative pages. For discussing deletion etc, we should refrain from doing that on the respective discussion pages, because deletion will remove these as well. We'd better open an own page for discussion deletion.
- I took a look at these. The edo pages are a relic of a discussion on facebook about the proper format for edo pages. Sort of useful. I suggest deleting all but the 15edo-a page and Gareth's page. The 94-edo page might have some good stuff, but since it's 94edo and 15edo jumbled together, it's also really confusing. This is what I suggest, but I don't feel I have the authority to actually delete someone's page. --TallKite (talk) 03:05, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Place to discuss deletion requests
Sometimes it's not easy to decide if a page should be deleted or not, it has to be discussed first. The problem with discussing deletion requests on the discussion page of the page being questioned is that they both have the same future. If the deletion happens, normal users have no access to the reasoning any more. Most wikis use an extra page for this purpose.
The so-called project namespace (in this wiki it's indicated by the prefix Xenharmonic Wiki:) is dedicated to that purpose, see pages currently in the project namespace.
Disambiguation project
There is a project Xenharmonix Wiki:Disambiguation that aims to build the tools we need. Please join the work and discuss related issues.
Naming articles
To reflect our current efforts, a #Naming articles section should be added to Xenharmonic Wiki:Conventions. Please review, rework, and/or discuss following draft:
Wiki pages should follow the usual English capitalization rules, except for the very first character, which is automatically capitalized by the wiki software. This means that words inside the title are written in lower case, except for proper names.
Currently, there is still a mixture of styles that has historical reasons: In the beginning, titles were started in WikiCase because the Wikispaces software used at that time automatically linked such words. Later, the configuration was adjusted so that links were only created if this was specified by appropriate markup. Here, the titles started to look like titles, but to a large extent also with the usual capitalization of all meaningful words for titles (book titles). Then came the switch to MediaWiki with new features that were only slowly adapted (redirects, categories, etc.). Meanwhile, we have moved on to making full use of the wiki software's support. Thus a) pages are always linked regardless of the upper and lower case of the first character (e.g. [[Cent]] == [[cent]] → Cent == cent) and b) characters that are appended after the link markup are included in the link label (e.g. [[cent]]s == [[cent|cents]] → cents == cents). This way, links can usually be embedded in the text without much effort.
13-Limit, 17-Limit and 19-Limit Comma Pages
- todo
A project to reorganize 11-limit and 13-limit temperaments. That is still discussed.
Join the discussion Xenharmonic Wiki talk:Things to do#13-Limit, 17-Limit and 19-Limit Comma Pages!
Comma tables in EDO pages
We found (on User talk:FloraC #Fractions vs. names in interval lemmas) that the comma tables on EDO pages are overloaded with information already given elsewhere. This self-evolving "convention" makes it hard to provide consistent and correct information about, (alternative) names, corrections etc. The original information should eventually find place in a dedicated page for each comma; the overview pages about commas (Large comma, Medium comma, Small comma, Unnoticeable comma) should be seen as secondary source then. Currently we tend to reduce the comma tables on EDO pages to at most three columns:
- p-Limit
- linked name or fraction (depending) on the lemma of the link target
- Comments ← only if there really are useful comments
This can be discussed in Xenharmonic Wiki talk:Things to do#Comma tables in EDO pages
Improve accessibility of wiki and present info in a non-technical way
- (shortcut(s): Xenwiki:Accessibility, XenWiki:Accessibility)
Many newcomers to xen are daunted by the math-heavy presentation of tunings and basic MOS/temperament ideas on this wiki. Therefore we propose to:
- Section off or subpage all the math-heavy parts of articles (for example to move Fokker block#Mathematical description to Fokker block/Math).
- Introductory articles and sections should assume at most high school algebra and should be focused on practical knowledge for musicians and composers, such as musical examples, how to build a scale in Scala, or what intervals and chords 17edo has.
- Improve presentation of regular temperament tunings on temperament pages.
- Linear algebra data such as mapping matrix and badness should be hidden under a dropdown view.
- Have ScaleWorkshop links for MOSes of size 5 to 10.
Further proposals coming.
Please join the discussion in Xenharmonic Wiki talk:Things to do#Improve accessibility of wiki and present info in a non-technical way!