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== Terminology ==
== Terminology ==
15/14 is traditionally called a ''diatonic semitone'', perhaps for its proximity (and conflation in systems such as septimal [[meantone]]) with the classic diatonic semitone [[16/15]]. However, 15/14 is a ''[[Wikipedia:chromatic semitone|chromatic semitone]]'' in both [[Helmholtz–Ellis notation]] and the [[Functional Just System]], viewed as the apotome [[2187/2048]] altered by [[5120/5103]]. [[Marc Sabat]] has taken to call it the ''major chromatic semitone'' in the same material where [[21/20]] is also named as the minor diatonic semitone<ref>Marc Sabat. [https://masa.plainsound.org/pdfs/crystal-growth.pdf ''Three Crystal Growth Algorithms in 23-limit constrained Harmonic Space'']. Plainsound Music Edition, 2008.</ref>.
15/14 is traditionally called a ''diatonic semitone'', perhaps for its proximity (and conflation in systems such as septimal [[meantone]] and [[marvel]]) with the classic diatonic semitone [[16/15]]. However, 15/14 is a ''[[Wikipedia:chromatic semitone|chromatic semitone]]'' in both [[Helmholtz–Ellis notation]] and the [[Functional Just System]], viewed as the apotome [[2187/2048]] altered by [[5120/5103]]. [[Marc Sabat]] has taken to call it the ''major chromatic semitone'' in the same material where [[21/20]] is also named as the minor diatonic semitone<ref>Marc Sabat. [https://masa.plainsound.org/pdfs/crystal-growth.pdf ''Three Crystal Growth Algorithms in 23-limit constrained Harmonic Space'']. Plainsound Music Edition, 2008.</ref>.


== Approximation ==
== Approximation ==
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In combination with [[19/17]] it forms a good approximation of [[golden meantone]]. The untempered combination of five 19/17's and two 15/14's leads to an interval that is sharp to an octave by the [[mercurial comma]]: (19/17)<sup>5</sup> × (15/14)<sup>2</sup> = 2 / (mercurial comma).  
In combination with [[19/17]] it forms a good approximation of [[golden meantone]]. The untempered combination of five 19/17's and two 15/14's leads to an interval that is sharp to an octave by the [[mercurial comma]]: (19/17)<sup>5</sup> × (15/14)<sup>2</sup> = 2 / (mercurial comma).  
== Temperaments ==
The following [[linear temperament]]s are [[generate]]d by a [[~]]15/14:
* [[Septidiasemi]]
* [[Subsedia]]
{{todo|complete list}}
In addition, several [[10th-octave temperaments]] treat ~15/14 as the period, including [[decoid]] and [[linus]].


== See also ==
== See also ==

Revision as of 04:13, 3 August 2025

Interval information
Ratio 15/14
Factorization 2-1 × 3 × 5 × 7-1
Monzo [-1 1 1 -1
Size in cents 119.4428¢
Names septimal diatonic semitone,
septimal major semitone
Color name ry1, ruyo unison
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{A1}^{5}_{7} }[/math]
Special properties superparticular,
reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 7.71425
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 7.81378
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 17

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15/14 is a superparticular ratio with a numerator which is the fifth triangular number. It may be found as the interval between many 7-limit ratios, including:

It also arises in higher limits as:

Terminology

15/14 is traditionally called a diatonic semitone, perhaps for its proximity (and conflation in systems such as septimal meantone and marvel) with the classic diatonic semitone 16/15. However, 15/14 is a chromatic semitone in both Helmholtz–Ellis notation and the Functional Just System, viewed as the apotome 2187/2048 altered by 5120/5103. Marc Sabat has taken to call it the major chromatic semitone in the same material where 21/20 is also named as the minor diatonic semitone[1].

Approximation

15/14 is very accurately approximated by 10edo (1\10) and all linus temperaments. The linus comma, 5.6¢, is the amount by which a stack of ten 15/14's falls short of the octave.

In combination with 19/17 it forms a good approximation of golden meantone. The untempered combination of five 19/17's and two 15/14's leads to an interval that is sharp to an octave by the mercurial comma: (19/17)5 × (15/14)2 = 2 / (mercurial comma).

Temperaments

The following linear temperaments are generated by a ~15/14:

In addition, several 10th-octave temperaments treat ~15/14 as the period, including decoid and linus.

See also

References