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{{EDO intro|38}}
{{EDO intro|38}}


== Theory ==
==Theory==
Since 38 = 2*19, it can be thought of as two parallel [[19edo]]s. While the halving of the step size lowers [[consistency]] and leaves it only mediocre in terms of overall [[Relative_errors_of_small_EDOs|relative error]], the fact that the 3rd & 5th harmonics are flat by almost exactly the same amount, while the 11th is double that means there are quite a few near perfect composite ratios, such as the the [[6/5]] it shares with 19edo, plus [[11/9]], [[15/11]] & [[25/22]], (and their inversions) while a single step nears [[55/54]]. This gives several interesting possibilities for unusual near-just chords such as 15:18:22:25:30. It [[tempers out]] the same [[5-limit]] commas as 19edo, namely [[81/80]], [[3125/3072]] and [[15625/15552]]. In the [[7-limit]], we can add [[50/49]], and tempering out 81/80 and 50/49 gives [[injera]] temperament, for which 38 is the [[optimal patent val]]. In the [[11-limit]], we can add 121/120 and 176/175.  
Since 38 = 2*19, it can be thought of as two parallel [[19edo]]s. While the halving of the step size lowers [[consistency]] and leaves it only mediocre in terms of overall [[Relative_errors_of_small_EDOs|relative error]], the fact that the 3rd & 5th harmonics are flat by almost exactly the same amount, while the 11th is double that means there are quite a few near perfect composite ratios, such as the the [[6/5]] it shares with 19edo, plus [[11/9]], [[15/11]] & [[25/22]], (and their inversions) while a single step nears [[55/54]]. This gives several interesting possibilities for unusual near-just chords such as 15:18:22:25:30. It [[tempers out]] the same [[5-limit]] commas as 19edo, namely [[81/80]], [[3125/3072]] and [[15625/15552]]. In the [[7-limit]], we can add [[50/49]], and tempering out 81/80 and 50/49 gives [[injera]] temperament, for which 38 is the [[optimal patent val]]. In the [[11-limit]], we can add 121/120 and 176/175.  


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== Intervals ==
== Intervals ==
{| class="wikitable center-1 right-2"
{| class="wikitable center-1 right-2"
|-
|-
! Step
! Step
! Cents
! Cents
! 19-odd-limit ratios,<br />treated as 38df
!19-odd-limit ratios,
treated as 38df
! colspan="3" | [[Ups and Downs Notation]]*
! colspan="3" | [[Ups and Downs Notation]]*
|-
|-
| 0
| 0
| 0.0000
| 0.0000
|
| Perfect 1sn
| Perfect 1sn
| P1
| P1
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| 1
| 1
| 31.5789
| 31.5789
|
| Up 1sn
| Up 1sn
| ^1
| ^1
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| 2
| 2
| 63.1579
| 63.1579
|
| Aug 1sn, dim 2nd
| Aug 1sn, dim 2nd
| A1, d2
| A1, d2
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| 3
| 3
| 94.7368
| 94.7368
| [[20/19]], [[19/18]], [[18/17]], [[17/16]]
|[[20/19]], [[19/18]], [[18/17]], [[17/16]]
| Upaug 1sn, downminor 2nd
| Upaug 1sn, downminor 2nd
| ^A1, vm2
| ^A1, vm2
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| 4
| 4
| 126.3157
| 126.3157
| [[16/15]], [[15/14]], [[14/13]], [[13/12]]
|[[16/15]], [[15/14]], [[14/13]], [[13/12]]
| Minor 2nd
| Minor 2nd
| m2
| m2
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| 5
| 5
| 157.8947
| 157.8947
| [[12/11]], [[11/10]]
|[[12/11]], [[11/10]]
| Mid 2nd
| Mid 2nd
| ~2
| ~2
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| 6
| 6
| 189.4737
| 189.4737
| [[10/9]], [[19/17]], [[9/8]]
|[[10/9]], [[19/17]], [[9/8]]
| Major 2nd
| Major 2nd
| M2
| M2
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| 7
| 7
| 221.0526
| 221.0526
| [[17/15]]
|[[17/15]]
| Upmajor 2nd
| Upmajor 2nd
| ^M2
| ^M2
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| 8
| 8
| 252.6316
| 252.6316
| [[8/7]], [[15/13]], [[22/19]], [[7/6]]
|[[8/7]], [[15/13]], [[22/19]], [[7/6]]
| Aug 2nd, Dim 3rd
| Aug 2nd, Dim 3rd
| A2, d3
| A2, d3
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| 9
| 9
| 284.2105
| 284.2105
| [[20/17]], [[13/11]], [[19/16]]
|[[20/17]], [[13/11]], [[19/16]]
| Downminor 3rd
| Downminor 3rd
| vm3
| vm3
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| 10
| 10
| 315.7895
| 315.7895
| [[6/5]]
|[[6/5]]
| Minor 3rd
| Minor 3rd
| m3
| m3
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| 11
| 11
| 347.3684
| 347.3684
| [[17/14]], [[11/9]]
|[[17/14]], [[11/9]]
| Mid 3rd
| Mid 3rd
| ~3
| ~3
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| 12
| 12
| 378.9474
| 378.9474
| [[16/13]], [[5/4]]
|[[16/13]], [[5/4]]
| Major 3rd
| Major 3rd
| M3
| M3
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| 13
| 13
| 410.5263
| 410.5263
| [[24/19]], [[19/15]], [[14/11]]
|[[24/19]], [[19/15]], [[14/11]]
| Upmajor 3rd, Downdim 4th
| Upmajor 3rd, Downdim 4th
| ^M3, vd4
| ^M3, vd4
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| 14
| 14
| 442.1053
| 442.1053
| [[9/7]], [[22/17]], [[13/10]]
|[[9/7]], [[22/17]], [[13/10]]
| Aug 3rd, dim 4th
| Aug 3rd, dim 4th
| A3, d4
| A3, d4
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| 15
| 15
| 473.6843
| 473.6843
| [[17/13]]
|[[17/13]]
| Down 4th
| Down 4th
| v4
| v4
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| 16
| 16
| 505.2632
| 505.2632
| [[4/3]]
|[[4/3]]
| Perfect 4th
| Perfect 4th
| P4
| P4
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| 17
| 17
| 536.8421
| 536.8421
| [[19/14]], [[15/11]], [[26/19]], [[11/8]]
|[[19/14]], [[15/11]], [[26/19]], [[11/8]]
| Up 4th
| Up 4th
| ^4
| ^4
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| 18
| 18
| 568.4211
| 568.4211
| [[18/13]], [[7/5]]
|[[18/13]], [[7/5]]
| Aug 4th
| Aug 4th
| A4
| A4
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| 19
| 19
| 600.0000
| 600.0000
| [[24/17]], [[17/12]]
|[[24/17]], [[17/12]]
| Upaug 4th, downdim 5th
| Upaug 4th, downdim 5th
| ^A4, vd5
| ^A4, vd5
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| 20
| 20
| 631.5789
| 631.5789
| [[10/7]], [[13/9]]
|[[10/7]], [[13/9]]
| Dim 5th
| Dim 5th
| d5
| d5
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| 21
| 21
| 663.1579
| 663.1579
| [[16/11]], [[19/13]], [[22/15]], [[28/19]]
|[[16/11]], [[19/13]], [[22/15]], [[28/19]]
| Down 5th
| Down 5th
| v5
| v5
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| 22
| 22
| 694.7368
| 694.7368
| [[3/2]]
|[[3/2]]
| Perfect 5th
| Perfect 5th
| P5
| P5
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| 23
| 23
| 726.3157
| 726.3157
| [[26/17]]
|[[26/17]]
| Up 5th
| Up 5th
| ^5
| ^5
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| 24
| 24
| 757.8947
| 757.8947
| [[20/13]], [[17/11]], [[14/9]]
|[[20/13]], [[17/11]], [[14/9]]
| Aug 5th, dim 6th
| Aug 5th, dim 6th
| A5, d6
| A5, d6
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| 25
| 25
| 789.4737
| 789.4737
| [[11/7]], [[30/19]], [[19/12]]
|[[11/7]], [[30/19]], [[19/12]]
| Upaug 5th, downminor 6th
| Upaug 5th, downminor 6th
| ^A5, vm6
| ^A5, vm6
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| 26
| 26
| 821.0526
| 821.0526
| [[8/5]], [[13/8]]
|[[8/5]], [[13/8]]
| Minor 6th
| Minor 6th
| m6
| m6
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| 27
| 27
| 852.6316
| 852.6316
| [[18/11]], [[28/17]]
|[[18/11]], [[28/17]]
| Mid 6th
| Mid 6th
| ~6
| ~6
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| 28
| 28
| 884.2105
| 884.2105
| [[5/3]]
|[[5/3]]
| Major 6th
| Major 6th
| M6
| M6
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| 29
| 29
| 915.7895
| 915.7895
| [[32/19]], [[22/13]], [[17/10]]
|[[32/19]], [[22/13]], [[17/10]]
| Upmajor 6th
| Upmajor 6th
| ^M6
| ^M6
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| 30
| 30
| 947.3684
| 947.3684
| [[12/7]], [[19/11]], [[26/15]], [[7/4]]
|[[12/7]], [[19/11]], [[26/15]], [[7/4]]
| Aug 6th, dim 7th
| Aug 6th, dim 7th
| A6, d7
| A6, d7
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| 31
| 31
| 978.9474
| 978.9474
| [[30/17]]
|[[30/17]]
| Downminor 7th
| Downminor 7th
| vm7
| vm7
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| 32
| 32
| 1010.5263
| 1010.5263
| [[16/9]], [[34/19]], [[9/5]]
|[[16/9]], [[34/19]], [[9/5]]
| Minor 7th
| Minor 7th
| m7
| m7
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| 33
| 33
| 1042.1053
| 1042.1053
| [[20/11]], [[11/6]]
|[[20/11]], [[11/6]]
| Mid 7th
| Mid 7th
| ~7
| ~7
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| 34
| 34
| 1073.6843
| 1073.6843
| [[24/13]], [[13/7]], [[28/15]], [[15/8]]
|[[24/13]], [[13/7]], [[28/15]], [[15/8]]
| Major 7th
| Major 7th
| M7
| M7
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| 35
| 35
| 1105.2632
| 1105.2632
| [[32/17]], [[17/9]], [[36/19]], [[19/10]]
|[[32/17]], [[17/9]], [[36/19]], [[19/10]]
| Upmajor 7th, Downdim 8ve
| Upmajor 7th, Downdim 8ve
| ^M7, vd8
| ^M7, vd8
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| 36
| 36
| 1136.8421
| 1136.8421
|
| Aug 7th, dim 8ve
| Aug 7th, dim 8ve
| A7, d8
| A7, d8
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| 37
| 37
| 1168.4211
| 1168.4211
|
| Down 8ve
| Down 8ve
| v8
| v8
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| 38
| 38
| 1200.0000
| 1200.0000
|
| Perfect 8ve
| Perfect 8ve
| P8
| P8
| D
| D
|}
|}
<nowiki />* Ups and downs may be substituted with semi-sharps and semi-flats, respectively.
<nowiki>*</nowiki> Ups and downs may be substituted with semi-sharps and semi-flats, respectively


== Instruments ==
== Instruments ==
* [[Lumatone mapping for 38edo]]
*[[Lumatone mapping for 38edo]]
* [[Skip fretting system 38 2 11]]
*[[Skip fretting system 38 2 11]]


== Music ==
== Music ==
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw1Cz1ojoSw Canon at the Semitone on The Mother's Malison Theme for Cor Anglais and Violin] by [[Claudi Meneghin]]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw1Cz1ojoSw Canon at the Semitone on The Mother's Malison Theme for Cor Anglais and Violin] by [[Claudi Meneghin]]


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