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* 5-odd-limit [[diamond monotone]]: ~3/2 = [600.000, 685.714] (1\2 to 4\7)
* 5-odd-limit [[diamond monotone]]: ~3/2 = [600.000, 685.714] (1\2 to 4\7)
* 5-odd-limit [[diamond tradeoff]]: ~3/2 = [671.229, 701.955] (1/3-comma to Pyth.)
* 5-odd-limit [[diamond tradeoff]]: ~3/2 = [671.229, 701.955] (1/3-comma to Pyth.)
* 5-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~3/2 = [671.229, 685.714]


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 9, 16, 23, 30bc }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 9, 16, 23, 30bc }}
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{{Multival|legend=1| 1 -3 -11 -7 -20 -17 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 1 -3 -11 -7 -20 -17 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 677.913
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 675.7492


[[Tuning ranges]]:  
[[Tuning ranges]]:  
* 7-odd-limit [[diamond monotone]]: ~3/2 = [675.000, 678.261] (9\16 to 13\23)
* 7-odd-limit [[diamond monotone]]: ~3/2 = [675.000, 678.261] (9\16 to 13\23)
* 7-odd-limit [[diamond tradeoff]]: ~3/2 = [671.229, 701.955]
* 7-odd-limit [[diamond tradeoff]]: ~3/2 = [671.229, 701.955]
* 7-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~3/2 = [675.000, 678.261]


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 16, 23d }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 16, 23d }}
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 7 20 5 | 0 1 -3 -11 -1 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 7 20 5 | 0 1 -3 -11 -1 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 677.924
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 675.6200


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 16, 23de }}
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 7d, 16, 23de }}


Badness: 0.042049
Badness: 0.042049
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{{Multival|legend=1| 1 -3 -4 -7 -9 -1 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 1 -3 -4 -7 -9 -1 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 672.853
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 667.5573


[[Tuning ranges]]:  
[[Tuning ranges]]:  
* 7-odd-limit [[diamond monotone]]: ~3/2 = 666.667 (5\9)
* 7-odd-limit [[diamond monotone]]: ~3/2 = 666.667 (5\9)
* 7-odd-limit [[diamond tradeoff]]: ~3/2 = [617.488, 701.955]
* 7-odd-limit [[diamond tradeoff]]: ~3/2 = [617.488, 701.955]
* 7-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~3/2 = 666.667


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 9, 16d }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 9, 16d }}
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 7 9 5 | 0 1 -3 -4 -1 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 7 9 5 | 0 1 -3 -4 -1 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 672.644
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 667.1801


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 9, 16d }}
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 7d, 9, 16d }}


Badness: 0.022753
Badness: 0.022753
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 7 -5 | 0 1 -3 5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 7 -5 | 0 1 -3 5 }}


{{Multival|legend=1|1 -3 5 -7 5 20}}
{{Multival|legend=1| 1 -3 5 -7 5 20 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 673.997
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 675.0988


[[Tuning ranges]]:  
[[Tuning ranges]]:  
* 7-odd-limit [[diamond monotone]]: ~3/2 = [666.667, 675.000] (5\9 to 9\16)
* 7-odd-limit [[diamond monotone]]: ~3/2 = [666.667, 675.000] (5\9 to 9\16)
* 7-odd-limit [[diamond tradeoff]]: ~3/2 = [666.718, 701.955]
* 7-odd-limit [[diamond tradeoff]]: ~3/2 = [666.718, 701.955]
* 7-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~3/2 = [666.718, 675.000]


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 9, 16, 41b, 57bb }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 9, 16 }}


[[Badness]]: 0.049038
[[Badness]]: 0.049038
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 7 -5 5 | 0 1 -3 5 -1 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 7 -5 5 | 0 1 -3 5 -1 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 673.807
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 674.6841


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 9, 16, 25b, 41be, 57bbee }}
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 7, 9, 16 }}


Badness: 0.027211
Badness: 0.027211
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 7 -5 5 -1 | 0 1 -3 5 -1 3 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 7 -5 5 -1 | 0 1 -3 5 -1 3 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 673.763
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 675.2877


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 9, 16, 41bef, 57bbeef }}
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 7, 9, 16 }}


Badness: 0.019351
Badness: 0.019351
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 7 -5 5 -1 -2 | 0 1 -3 5 -1 3 4 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 7 -5 5 -1 -2 | 0 1 -3 5 -1 3 4 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 673.282
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 675.1703
 
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 7, 9, 16, 25bf }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 9, 16, 25bf, 41bef }}
Badness: 0.0160


== Hornbostel ==
== Hornbostel ==
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{{Multival|legend=1| 1 -3 12 -7 16 36 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 1 -3 12 -7 16 36 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 678.947
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 680.3705


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 16d, 23d, 53bbccd, 76bbccdd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 16d, 23d, 53bbccd }}


[[Badness]]: 0.121294
[[Badness]]: 0.121294
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 7 -16 5 | 0 1 -3 12 -1 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 7 -16 5 | 0 1 -3 12 -1 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 678.909
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 680.2409


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 16d, 23de }}
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 7, 16d, 23de, 53bbccdee }}


Badness: 0.055036
Badness: 0.055036
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 14 15 | 0 1 -3 -3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 14 15 | 0 1 -3 -3 }}


{{Multival|legend=1|2 -6 -6 -14 -15 3}}
{{Multival|legend=1| 2 -6 -6 -14 -15 3 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~7/5 = 1\2, ~3/2 = 681.195
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~7/5 = 1\2, ~3/2 = 677.114


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 14c, 16, 30bc, 44bccd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 14c, 30bc, 44bccd }}


[[Badness]]: 0.074703
[[Badness]]: 0.074703
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Comma list: 33/32, 45/44, 50/49
Comma list: 33/32, 45/44, 50/49


Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 14 15 10 | 0 1 -3 -3 -1}}
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 14 15 10 | 0 1 -3 -3 -1 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~7/5 = 1\2, ~3/2 = 681.280
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~7/5 = 1\2, ~3/2 = 676.3926


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 14c, 16, 30bce, 44bccdee }}
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 14c, 30bce, 44bccdee }}


Badness: 0.035694
Badness: 0.035694
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{{Multival|legend=1| 2 -6 -15 -14 -29 -18 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 2 -6 -15 -14 -29 -18 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~25/21 = 337.658
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~25/21 = 336.1216


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 18b, 25b, 32bd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 25b, 32bd }}


[[Badness]]: 0.222377
[[Badness]]: 0.222377
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 4 7 4 | 0 2 -6 -15 -2 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 4 7 4 | 0 2 -6 -15 -2 }}


Optimal tuning]] (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~25/21 = 337.633
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~11/9 = 336.0156


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 18b, 25b, 32bde }}
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 7d, 25b, 32bde }}


Badness: 0.092074
Badness: 0.092074

Revision as of 13:04, 24 January 2024

The pelogic family tempers out 135/128, the pelogic comma, also known as the major chroma or major limma. The 5-limit temperament is mavila, so named after the Chopi village where it was discovered, and is the base from which higher limit temperaments are derived. The generator for all of these is a very flat fifth, lying on the spectrum between 7-equal and 9-equal.

One of the most salient and characteristic features of pelogic temperament is that when you stack 4 of the tempered fifths you get to a minor third instead of the usual major third that you would get if the fifths were pure. This also means that the arrangement of small and large steps in a 7-note mavila scale is the inverse of a diatonic scale of 2 small steps and 5 large steps; mavila has 2 large steps and 5 small steps (see 2L 5s).

Another salient feature of pelogic temperament is the fact that 9-note mos scales may be produced, thus giving us three different mos scales to choose from that are not decidedly chromatic in nature (5-, 7-, and 9-note scales). This is reflected in the design of the 9 + 7 layout of the Goldsmith keyboard for 16 tone equal temperament (see 7L 2s).

'Pelogic' (from the Indonesian word pelog) should probably be pronounced /pɛˈlɒgɪk/ pell-LOG-ik.

Mavila

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma list: 135/128

Mapping[1 0 7], 0 1 -3]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~3

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 677.145

Tuning ranges:

Optimal ET sequence7, 9, 16, 23, 30bc

Badness: 0.039556

Overview to extensions

The second comma of the normal comma list defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. That means 126/125 for septimal mavila, 21/20 for pelogic, 36/35 for armodue, 875/864 for hornbostel, 49/48 for superpelog, and 50/49 for bipelog.

Temperaments discussed elsewhere include

Septimal mavila

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 126/125, 135/128

Mapping[1 0 7 20], 0 1 -3 -11]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 1 -3 -11 -7 -20 -17 ]]

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 675.7492

Tuning ranges:

Optimal ET sequence7d, 16, 23d

Badness: 0.089013

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 33/32, 45/44, 126/125

Mapping: [1 0 7 20 5], 0 1 -3 -11 -1]]

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 675.6200

Optimal ET sequence: 7d, 16, 23de

Badness: 0.042049

Pelogic

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 21/20, 135/128

Mapping[1 0 7 9], 0 1 -3 -4]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 1 -3 -4 -7 -9 -1 ]]

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 667.5573

Tuning ranges:

Optimal ET sequence7d, 9, 16d

Badness: 0.038661

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 21/20, 33/32, 45/44

Mapping: [1 0 7 9 5], 0 1 -3 -4 -1]]

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 667.1801

Optimal ET sequence: 7d, 9, 16d

Badness: 0.022753

Armodue

This temperament is also known as hexadecimal.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 36/35, 135/128

Mapping[1 0 7 -5], 0 1 -3 5]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 1 -3 5 -7 5 20 ]]

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 675.0988

Tuning ranges:

Optimal ET sequence7, 9, 16

Badness: 0.049038

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 33/32, 36/35, 45/44

Mapping: [1 0 7 -5 5], 0 1 -3 5 -1]]

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 674.6841

Optimal ET sequence: 7, 9, 16

Badness: 0.027211

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 27/26, 33/32, 36/35, 45/44

Mapping: [1 0 7 -5 5 -1], 0 1 -3 5 -1 3]]

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 675.2877

Optimal ET sequence: 7, 9, 16

Badness: 0.019351

Armodog

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.19

Comma list: 27/26, 33/32, 36/35, 39/38, 45/44

Mapping: [1 0 7 -5 5 -1 -2], 0 1 -3 5 -1 3 4]]

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 675.1703

Optimal ET sequence: 7, 9, 16, 25bf

Badness: 0.0160

Hornbostel

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 135/128, 729/700

Mapping[1 0 7 -16], 0 1 -3 12]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 1 -3 12 -7 16 36 ]]

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 680.3705

Optimal ET sequence7, 16d, 23d, 53bbccd

Badness: 0.121294

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 33/32, 45/44, 729/700

Mapping: [1 0 7 -16 5], 0 1 -3 12 -1]]

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 680.2409

Optimal ET sequence: 7, 16d, 23de, 53bbccdee

Badness: 0.055036

Bipelog

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 50/49, 135/128

Mapping[2 0 14 15], 0 1 -3 -3]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 2 -6 -6 -14 -15 3 ]]

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~7/5 = 1\2, ~3/2 = 677.114

Optimal ET sequence14c, 30bc, 44bccd

Badness: 0.074703

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 33/32, 45/44, 50/49

Mapping: [2 0 14 15 10], 0 1 -3 -3 -1]]

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~7/5 = 1\2, ~3/2 = 676.3926

Optimal ET sequence: 14c, 30bce, 44bccdee

Badness: 0.035694

Mohavila

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 135/128, 1323/1250

Mapping[1 1 4 7], 0 2 -6 -15]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 2 -6 -15 -14 -29 -18 ]]

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~25/21 = 336.1216

Optimal ET sequence7d, 25b, 32bd

Badness: 0.222377

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 33/32, 45/44, 1323/1250

Mapping: [1 1 4 7 4], 0 2 -6 -15 -2]]

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~11/9 = 336.0156

Optimal ET sequence: 7d, 25b, 32bde

Badness: 0.092074

Listening examples

Gene Ward Smith
Mike Battaglia
John Moriarty