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[[Gene Ward Smith]] outlined a number of examples for reference: [https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_10667.html ''Some naming examples'']. [[Ryan Avella]] abstracted a convention of naming temperaments: [https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_105566.html ''Naming Convention Suggestion''].

== Temperament/comma (re)naming conventions ==

It has become evident over time that there is a need to formalize when it is or is not okay to propose and accept names or renames of temperaments and commas, especially as more users contribute and offer input and as those users inevitably become more out-of-sync in their preferences. Why? Because there is a repeated pattern of wasted energy and effort, that many may find demotivating, when conflict inevitably emerges out of a lack of clear ground rules. Therefore it is important to make clear a set of rules which wiki editors can defer to in cases of such conflicts that feel as though they have reached an impasse.

Conventions for naming commas/temperaments:

* The name should have something to do with the comma/temperament. This is a rule that is often assumed implicitly without mention.

* Stronger than the above, the name should ideally have a wealth of reasonings supporting its association (ideally ''uniquely'', or very close to it) with the comma/temperament in question.

* The name should not cause potential confusion/ambiguity with other names. Note that an important exception to this rule is that closely related temperaments may have highly similar names; this is not uncommon.

* If a comma is named the "Xisma", then the temperament which tempers out the Xisma in the minimal prime [[subgroup]] containing that comma should be named "Xic" and the temperament which tempers out the Xisma in the minimal [[prime limit]] containing that comma should be named "Xismic". A comma page's creation should ideally always include a mention of both of these temperaments. The temperaments and obvious and/or strong extensions may be discussed either there or on linked-to dedicated pages.

* The name's complexity should loosely reflect the complexity of the comma/temperament, so that very simple names are not exhausted for very complex commas/temperaments, which would later cause issues if one of those names found a simpler and more elegant comma/temperament to be associated with (see also the section on conventions for renaming). Note that "simple" here does not mean low-accuracy, nor high-accuracy, but rather simple in the conceptual sense; roughly how easy would it be for someone to rediscover this comma/temperament, assuming the rediscoverer has no particular interest in the comma/temperament in question? "Elegant" is meant as similar in meaning to "simple" but more in the direction of a potential subjective appraisal of a comma/temperament for unique properties it has.

* The name must not be offensive, where "offensive" is defined as referring to topics that quite a few would deem controversial and/or where the name is NSFW (Not Safe For Work).

* The name has a fair amount of consensus (EG several people in favour versus 2 against). This is not to be interpreted as iron democratic rule but rather as a significant indicator of a good name, along with other reasons detailed.

Most important of the above points are those on: not being NSFW/inappropriate, lack of ambiguity, compliance with existing naming conventions, and consensus.

It should not come as a surprise to anyone that good reasons for renaming commas/temperaments almost perfectly mirror conventions for naming them:

Strong reasons for renaming a comma and/or temperament are:

* The name causes significant confusion/ambiguity with other names. Note that an important exception to this rule is that closely related temperaments/commas/scales may have highly similar names; this is not uncommon.

* The name is inconsistent with naming standards which aim to clarify; the main one currently in effect is that if a comma is named the "Xisma", then the temperament which tempers out the Xisma in the minimal prime [[subgroup]] containing that comma should be named "Xic" and the temperament which tempers out the Xisma in the minimal [[prime limit]] containing that comma should be named "Xismic". If the Xisma is a [[PIFE comma]] then there is only one associated temperament and that temperament is called "Xismic".

* The name can be deemed to be offensive, where offensive is defined as referring to topics that quite a few would deem controversial and/or where the name is NSFW (Not Safe For Work).

* The name change proposal has a fair amount of consensus (EG several people in favour versus 2 against). This is not to be interpreted as iron democratic rule but rather as a significant indicator of a good name, along with other reasons detailed.

Those are the most important. Weaker but still good and standard reasons for renaming a comma and/or temperament include:

* The name is simpler but not so simple as to be absurd and implicatory of many alternate candidates (an example of the latter is "[[commatic]]" temperament).

* The name has reasoning behind it that identifies it as appropriate at least insofar as it identifies the comma as unique within reason.

* The previous name is fairly new (within the last year).

* The previous name has not received much usage (considering usage by people other than the inventor/proposer of the name as more significant).

Therefore, if one finds oneself at an impasse, refer to this work in progress section and see how many bullet points are in favour of a name or rename.

This summary of conventions aims to be comprehensive but not exhaustive. Minor reasons may be included if they are abstract in nature rather than overly specific in application.

If you feel something is missing that many would agree on being added and which you do not believe would be controversial to add, please add it. If you feel something should be added but are unsure about how it may be taken, please take to this page's [[Talk:Temperament naming|talk page]], add your reasonings/arguments and await responses and some form of consensus first. Be patient, this full process may take weeks! And as always, do your best to remain objective, professional and respectful.

== Temperament name examples ==

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 [[Gene Ward Smith]] outlined a number of examples for reference: [https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_10667.html ''Some naming examples'']. [[Ryan Avella]] abstracted a convention of naming temperaments: [https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_105566.html ''Naming Convention Suggestion''].
+== Temperament/comma (re)naming conventions ==
+It has become evident over time that there is a need to formalize when it is or is not okay to propose and accept names or renames of temperaments and commas, especially as more users contribute and offer input and as those users inevitably become more out-of-sync in their preferences. Why? Because there is a repeated pattern of wasted energy and effort, that many may find demotivating, when conflict inevitably emerges out of a lack of clear ground rules. Therefore it is important to make clear a set of rules which wiki editors can defer to in cases of such conflicts that feel as though they have reached an impasse.
+Conventions for naming commas/temperaments:
+* The name should have something to do with the comma/temperament. This is a rule that is often assumed implicitly without mention.
+* Stronger than the above, the name should ideally have a wealth of reasonings supporting its association (ideally ''uniquely'', or very close to it) with the comma/temperament in question.
+* The name should not cause potential confusion/ambiguity with other names. Note that an important exception to this rule is that closely related temperaments may have highly similar names; this is not uncommon.
+* If a comma is named the "Xisma", then the temperament which tempers out the Xisma in the minimal prime [[subgroup]] containing that comma should be named "Xic" and the temperament which tempers out the Xisma in the minimal [[prime limit]] containing that comma should be named "Xismic". A comma page's creation should ideally always include a mention of both of these temperaments. The temperaments and obvious and/or strong extensions may be discussed either there or on linked-to dedicated pages.
+* The name's complexity should loosely reflect the complexity of the comma/temperament, so that very simple names are not exhausted for very complex commas/temperaments, which would later cause issues if one of those names found a simpler and more elegant comma/temperament to be associated with (see also the section on conventions for renaming). Note that "simple" here does not mean low-accuracy, nor high-accuracy, but rather simple in the conceptual sense; roughly how easy would it be for someone to rediscover this comma/temperament, assuming the rediscoverer has no particular interest in the comma/temperament in question? "Elegant" is meant as similar in meaning to "simple" but more in the direction of a potential subjective appraisal of a comma/temperament for unique properties it has.
+* The name must not be offensive, where "offensive" is defined as referring to topics that quite a few would deem controversial and/or where the name is NSFW (Not Safe For Work).
+* The name has a fair amount of consensus (EG several people in favour versus 2 against). This is not to be interpreted as iron democratic rule but rather as a significant indicator of a good name, along with other reasons detailed.
+Most important of the above points are those on: not being NSFW/inappropriate, lack of ambiguity, compliance with existing naming conventions, and consensus.
+It should not come as a surprise to anyone that good reasons for renaming commas/temperaments almost perfectly mirror conventions for naming them:
+Strong reasons for renaming a comma and/or temperament are:
+* The name causes significant confusion/ambiguity with other names. Note that an important exception to this rule is that closely related temperaments/commas/scales may have highly similar names; this is not uncommon.
+* The name is inconsistent with naming standards which aim to clarify; the main one currently in effect is that if a comma is named the "Xisma", then the temperament which tempers out the Xisma in the minimal prime [[subgroup]] containing that comma should be named "Xic" and the temperament which tempers out the Xisma in the minimal [[prime limit]] containing that comma should be named "Xismic". If the Xisma is a [[PIFE comma]] then there is only one associated temperament and that temperament is called "Xismic".
+* The name can be deemed to be offensive, where offensive is defined as referring to topics that quite a few would deem controversial and/or where the name is NSFW (Not Safe For Work).
+* The name change proposal has a fair amount of consensus (EG several people in favour versus 2 against). This is not to be interpreted as iron democratic rule but rather as a significant indicator of a good name, along with other reasons detailed.
+Those are the most important. Weaker but still good and standard reasons for renaming a comma and/or temperament include:
+* The name is simpler but not so simple as to be absurd and implicatory of many alternate candidates (an example of the latter is "[[commatic]]" temperament).
+* The name has reasoning behind it that identifies it as appropriate at least insofar as it identifies the comma as unique within reason.
+* The previous name is fairly new (within the last year).
+* The previous name has not received much usage (considering usage by people other than the inventor/proposer of the name as more significant).
+Therefore, if one finds oneself at an impasse, refer to this work in progress section and see how many bullet points are in favour of a name or rename.
+This summary of conventions aims to be comprehensive but not exhaustive. Minor reasons may be included if they are abstract in nature rather than overly specific in application.
+If you feel something is missing that many would agree on being added and which you do not believe would be controversial to add, please add it. If you feel something should be added but are unsure about how it may be taken, please take to this page's [[Talk:Temperament naming|talk page]], add your reasonings/arguments and await responses and some form of consensus first. Be patient, this full process may take weeks! And as always, do your best to remain objective, professional and respectful.
 == Temperament name examples ==