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How it works: added interval table and some other little things
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We are familiar with the Zarlino/Ptolemy just major scale: 9/8 5/4 4/3 3/2 5/3 15/8 2/1. This scale has 3 large steps of 9/8, 2 medium steps of 10/9, and 2 small steps of 16/15, with step pattern LMsLMLs. If we temper out the difference between L and M, we get LLsLLLs, the mode 2 of Meantone[7], the familiar Ionian/major mode.  
We are familiar with the Zarlino/Ptolemy just major scale: 9/8 5/4 4/3 3/2 5/3 15/8 2/1. This scale has 3 large steps of 9/8, 2 medium steps of 10/9, and 2 small steps of 16/15, with step pattern LMsLMLs. If we temper out the difference between L and M, we get LLsLLLs, the mode 2 of Meantone[7], the familiar Ionian/major mode.  


Consider instead the just scale: 10/9 6/5 4/3 3/2 5/3 9/5 2/1, a just Dorian scale. This scale has 1 large step of 9/8, 4 medium steps of 10/9, and 2 small steps of 27/25, with step pattern MsMLMsM (mode 0). It can be represented with step signature and step mapping 1L 4M 2s = (9/8, 10/9, 27/25). This is our just porcutone diatonic.If we temper out the difference between L and M, we get LsLLLsL, Meantone[7] mode 0: Dorian; if we temper out instead the difference between 10/9 and 27/25, we get sssLsss, Porcupine[7] mode 0, which is referred to as symmetric minor. In this way, the porcutone diatonic mode 0 is said to be the [[product word]] of Meantone[7] mode 0 and Porcupine[7] mode 0, i.e., LsLLLsL *sssLsss -> MsMLMsM, where L*L -> L, L*s -> M, and s*s -> s. So the porcutone diatonic is the product of Meantone[7] and Porcupine[7].
Consider instead the just scale: 10/9 6/5 4/3 3/2 5/3 9/5 2/1, a just Dorian scale. This scale has 1 large step of 9/8, 4 medium steps of 10/9, and 2 small steps of 27/25, with step pattern MsMLMsM (mode 0). It can be represented with step signature and step mapping 1L 4M 2s = (9/8, 10/9, 27/25). This is our just porcutone diatonic.If we temper out the difference between L and M, we get LsLLLsL, Meantone[7] mode 0: Dorian; if we temper out instead the difference between 10/9 and 27/25, we get sssLsss, Porcupine[7] mode 0, which is referred to as symmetric minor. In this way, the just porcutone diatonic represents both Porcupine[7] and Meantone[7].


To name this mode of the porcutone diatonic, we simply add the mode names together, prefixing the Porcupine[7] functional mode name (which I am introducing here) with the meantone diatonic mode name, so mode 0 of the porcutone diatonic is called Dorian symmetric minor. We continue this process with the other 6 modes:
To name this mode of the porcutone diatonic, we simply add the mode names together, prefixing the Porcupine[7] functional mode name (which I am introducing here) with the meantone diatonic mode name, so mode 0 of the porcutone diatonic is called Dorian symmetric minor. We continue this process with the other 6 modes:
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|146.635 320.690 494.745 641.380 815.435 1025.214 1199.269
|146.635 320.690 494.745 641.380 815.435 1025.214 1199.269
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We see 11/8 as the 4th in Lydian dark major. In Meantone[7] this is an augmented fourth, so whereas 11/8 is represented by the major 4th in Porcupine (L+ 2s), it is represented by the augmented fourth of Meantone[7] (3L). The meantone extension representing 11/8 with an augmented fourth is call Meanenneadecal, referencing the fact that it is most at home in [[19edo]].  
We see 11/8 as the 4th in Lydian dark major. In Meantone[7] this is an augmented fourth. The meantone extension representing 11/8 with an augmented fourth is called Meanenneadecal, referencing the fact that it is most at home in [[19edo]]. Tuning the scale to 19edo (or 12edo or 31edo) will collapse it into a Meanenneadecal[7] diatonic scale. Similarly, tuning the scale to 15edo, 22edo, or 29edo will collapse it to Porcupine[7] scale. 27edo, 34edo, and 41edo are good tunings for the porcutone diatonic if tuning to an edo is desired.
 
27edo: 1L 4M 2s = (5, 4, 3) = (222.2222c, 177.7778c, 133.3333c)
 
34edo: 1L 4M 2s = (6, 5, 4) = (211.7647c, 176.4706c, 141.1765c)
 
41edo: 1L 4M 2s = (7, 6, 5) = (204.8780c, 175.6098c, 146.3415c)
{| class="wikitable"
|+Intervals of the porcutone diatonic
!Interval class
!sizes
!Meantone[7] names
!Porcupine[7] names
!Porcutone diatonic names
!JI ratios approximated
!size in cents (TE)
!Occurence
|-
!1-step
|s
M
 
L
|minor 2nd
major 2nd
 
major 2nd
|minor 2nd
minor 2nd
 
major 2nd
|small 2nd
medium 2nd
 
large 2nd
|27/25, 12/11
10/9, 11/10
 
9/8, 25/22
|146.635
174.055
 
209.779
|2
4
 
1
|-
!2-step
|M + s
M + M
 
L + M
|minor 3rd
major 3rd
 
major 3rd
|minor 3rd
minor 3rd
 
major 3rd
|small 3rd
medium 3rd
 
large 3rd
|6/5
11/9
 
5/4
|320.690
348.110
 
383.834
|4
1
 
2
|-
!3-step
|2M + s
L + M + s
 
L + 2M
|perfect 4th
perfect 4th
 
augmented 4th
|minor 4th
major 4th
 
major 4th
|small 4th
medium 4th
 
large 4th
|4/3
15/11
 
11/8
|494.745
530.469
 
557.888
|4
2
 
1
|-
!4-step
|2M + 2s
3M + s
 
L + 2M + s
|diminished 5th
perfect 5th
 
perfect 5th
|minor 5th
minor 5th
 
major 5th
|small 5th
medium 5th
 
large 5th
|16/11
22/15
 
3/2
|641.380
668.800
 
704.524
|1
2
 
4
|-
!5-step
|3M + 2s
L + 2M + 2s
 
L + 3M + s
|minor 6th
minor 6th
 
major 6th
|minor 6th
major 6th
 
major 6th
|small 6th
medium 6th
 
large 6th
|8/5
18/11
 
5/3
|815.435
851.159
 
878.579
|2
1
 
4
|-
!6-step
|4M + 2s
L + 3M + 2s
 
L + 4M + s
|minor 7th
minor 7th
 
major 7th
|minor 7th
major 7th
 
major 7th
|small 7th
medium 7th
 
large 7th
|16/9, 44/25
9/5, 20/11
 
11/6, 50/27
|989.490
1025.241
 
1052.633
|1
4
 
2
|}


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