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== Chlorine ==
== Chlorine ==
Chlorine has a period of 1/17 octave. It tempers out {{monzo| -52 -17 34 }}, the [[septendecima]], by which 17 classical chromatic semitones ((25/24)<sup>17</sup>) exceed an octave. This temperament can be described as 289 & 323 temperament, which tempers out {{monzo| -49 4 22 -3 }} as well as the ragisma. Not only the semitwelfth, but also the ~5/4 can be used as a generator.  
: ''For extensions, see [[Ragismic microtemperaments #Chlorine]].''
 
Chlorine has a period of 1/17 octave. It tempers out {{monzo| -52 -17 34 }}, the [[septendecima]], by which 17 classical chromatic semitones ((25/24)<sup>17</sup>) exceed an octave.  


The name of this temperament comes from chlorine, the 17th element, and has no relation to the [[chlorisma]].
The name of this temperament comes from chlorine, the 17th element, and has no relation to the [[chlorisma]].
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[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.81
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.81
=== 7-limit ===
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 4375/4374, {{monzo| -49 4 22 -3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 17 0 26 -87 | 0 2 1 10 }}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~25/24 = 70.5880{{c}}, ~{{monzo| 24 -5 -9 2 }} = 950.9962{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.004 +0.037 -0.030 -0.019 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~25/24 = 70.5882{{c}}, ~{{monzo| 24 -5 -9 2 }} = 950.9990{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.043 -0.021 -0.013 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 289, 323, 612, 935, 1547, 3706, 5253 }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.05
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 4375/4374, 41503/41472, 1879453125/1879048192
Mapping: {{mapping| 17 0 26 -87 207 | 0 2 1 10 -11 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~25/24 = 70.5905{{c}}, ~693/400 = 951.0054{{c}}
* CWE: ~25/24 = 70.5882{{c}}, ~693/400 = 950.9754{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 289, 323, 612, 3349de, 3961de, …, 5797ddee }}
Badness (Sintel): 2.11


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[[Category:17edo]]
[[Category:17edo]]

Latest revision as of 09:34, 20 August 2026

This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.

17edo is a "wheel" for some fractional-octave temperaments. The most notable relationship is the tempering out of the septendecima, the amount by which seventeen 25/24 chromatic semitones exceed an octave.

Gothic

The gothic temperament is associated with the 17-comma. It used to be known as septendecic.

It can be extended to the higher limits using the identical mapping to 17et in the no-5 subgroups. While this comes at the cost of greater error for primes 7 and 11, it is the only strong extension for these primes that makes practical sense.

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma list: 134217728/129140163

Mapping[17 27 0], 0 0 1]]

mapping generators: ~256/243, ~5

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~256/243 = 70.5152 ¢, ~5/4 = 388.7908 ¢
error map: -1.241 +1.956 -0.006]
  • CWE: ~256/243 = 70.5882 ¢, ~5/4 = 388.2315 ¢
error map: 0.000 +3.927 +1.918]

Optimal ET sequence17c, 34, 323bbcc, 357bbcc, 391bbcc

Badness (Sintel): 12.7

7-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 64/63, 17496/16807

Mapping[17 27 0 48], 0 0 1 0]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~28/27 = 70.4030 ¢, ~5/4 = 392.5654 ¢
error map: -3.149 -1.075 -0.047 +10.517]
  • CWE: ~28/27 = 70.5882 ¢, ~5/4 = 391.7654 ¢
error map: 0.000 +3.927 +5.452 +19.409]

Optimal ET sequence17c, 34d, 85cdd

Badness (Sintel): 3.44

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 64/63, 99/98, 243/242

Mapping: [17 27 0 48 59], 0 0 1 0 0]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~28/27 = 70.3922 ¢, ~5/4 = 392.9298 ¢
  • CWE: ~28/27 = 70.5882 ¢, ~5/4 = 392.4722 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 17c, 34d, 85cdde

Badness (Sintel): 1.77

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 99/98, 144/143

Mapping: [17 27 0 48 59 63], 0 0 1 0 0 0]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~27/26 = 70.4103 ¢, ~5/4 = 392.3109 ¢
  • CWE: ~27/26 = 70.5882 ¢, ~5/4 = 392.1288 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 17c, 34d

Badness (Sintel): 1.35

Chlorine

For extensions, see Ragismic microtemperaments #Chlorine.

Chlorine has a period of 1/17 octave. It tempers out [-52 -17 34, the septendecima, by which 17 classical chromatic semitones ((25/24)17) exceed an octave.

The name of this temperament comes from chlorine, the 17th element, and has no relation to the chlorisma.

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma list: [-52 -17 34

Mapping[17 0 26], 0 2 1]]

mapping generators: ~25/24, ~[26 9 -17

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~25/24 = 70.5887 ¢, ~[26 9 -17 = 950.9807 ¢
error map: +0.008 +0.006 -0.027]
  • CWE: ~25/24 = 70.5882 ¢, ~[26 9 -17 = 950.9776 ¢
error map: 0.000 -0.000 -0.042]

Optimal ET sequence34, 153, 187, 221, 255, 289, 323, 612, 3349, 3961, 4573, 5185, 5797

Badness (Sintel): 1.81

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