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== Theory ==
== Theory ==
240edo is [[consistent]] in the [[5-odd-limit]] and notably provides the [[optimal patent val]] for the 5-limit [[compton]] temperament, the rank-2 temperament associated with the [[Pythagorean comma]]. However, its mapping for 3 is not well approximated, meaning it is a [[dual-fifth system]], with alternate mapping for 3/2 is the 705-cent sharp fifth inherited from [[80edo]].
240edo notably provides the [[optimal patent val]] for the 5-limit [[compton]] temperament, the rank-2 temperament associated with the [[Pythagorean comma]]. However, it is only [[consistent]] in the [[5-odd-limit]]. Its mapping for [[harmonic]] [[3/1|3]] is not well approximated, meaning it is a [[dual-fifth system]]; its alternative mapping for 3/2 is the 705{{c}} sharp fifth inherited from [[80edo]].  


Although no longer consistent to to the higher limits, 240edo's [[patent val]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[225/224]] in the 7-limit, supporting [[marvel]] temperaments with harmonics 3, 5, 7 having less than two cents of error. Retuning 5-limit scales to 240edo is a simple way to to make them function as 7-limit scales while retaining very accurate tuning.  
Although no longer consistent to the higher limits, 240edo's [[patent val]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[225/224]] in the 7-limit, [[support]]ing [[marvel]] with harmonics 3, [[5/1|5]], [[7/1|7]] having less than two cents of error. Retuning 5-limit scales to 240edo is a simple way to to make them function as 7-limit scales while retaining very accurate tuning.  


From a regular temperament theory perspective in the 7-limit, 240edo is similar to [[197edo]]. The main difference is that 197edo, despite a flatter third, gives generally better results and may be preferred, whitherfore a compromise between good results and an accurate 5 may be worked out by means of retuning 5-limit scales to the 43 & 197 temperament, which has a comma basis {225/224, {{monzo| -49 19 -10 15 }}} in the 7-limit.  
240edo is similar to [[197edo]] in terms of intonation in the 7-limit. The main difference is that 197edo, despite a flatter third, gives generally better results and may be preferred, whitherfore a compromise between good results and an accurate 5 may be worked out by means of retuning 5-limit scales to the {{nowrap| 43 & 197 }} temperament, which has a comma basis {225/224, {{monzo| -49 19 -10 15 }}} in the 7-limit.  


For higher limits, 240edo tempers out [[243/242]] in the 11-limit, [[351/350]] in the 13-limit, and [[375/374]] in the 17-limit, and adding these to the mix converts marvel temperament into [[spectacle]] temperament. This is still a planar temperament, but more complex as two undecimal neutral thirds of [[11/9]] make up a fifth (which is in fact the same fifth as that of 12edo, and the 11/9 is the 350-cent interval often employed in [[24edo]] versions of [[Arabic, Turkish, Persian music|Arabic music]].)
For higher limits, 240edo tempers out [[243/242]] in the 11-limit, [[351/350]] in the 13-limit, and [[375/374]] in the 17-limit, and adding these to the mix converts marvel temperament into [[spectacle]] temperament. This is still a [[rank-3 temperament]], but more complex as two undecimal neutral thirds of [[11/9]] make up a fifth (which is in fact the same fifth as that of 12edo, and the 11/9 is the 350-cent interval often employed in [[24edo]] versions of [[Arabic, Turkish, Persian music|Arabic music]].)
 
=== Subsets and supersets ===
240edo is the 12th [[highly composite edo]], with subset edos {{EDOs| 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 16, 20, 24, 30, 40, 48, 60, 80, 120 }}.
 
In addition, as every fifth step of [[1200edo]], it is the largest highly composite edo expressible in integer cents.


=== Odd harmonics ===
=== Odd harmonics ===
{{Harmonics in equal|240}}
{{Harmonics in equal|240}}
=== Subsets and supersets ===
240edo is the 12th [[highly composite edo]], with subset edos {{EDOs| 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 16, 20, 24, 30, 40, 48, 60, 80, 120 }}. In addition, as every fifth step of [[1200edo]], it is the largest highly composite edo expressible in integer cents.


== Interval table ==
== Interval table ==
See [[Table of 240edo intervals]].  
See [[Table of 240edo intervals]].  


==Regular temperament properties==
== Regular temperament properties ==
{| class="wikitable center-4 center-5 center-6"
{| class="wikitable center-4 center-5 center-6"
|-
|-
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! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list]]
! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list]]
! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]]
! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]]
! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br />8ve stretch (¢)
! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br>8ve stretch (¢)
! colspan="2" | Tuning error
! colspan="2" | Tuning error
|-
|-
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| 2.3.5
| 2.3.5
| 531441/524288, {{monzo| -29 -11 20 }}
| 531441/524288, {{monzo| -29 -11 20 }}
| {{mapping| 240 380 557 }}
| {{Mapping| 240 380 557 }}
| 0.5998
| 0.5998
| 0.5044
| 0.5044
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|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator
|-
|-
! Periods<br />per 8ve
! Periods<br>per 8ve
! Generator*
! Generator*
! Cents*
! Cents*
! Associated<br />ratio*
! Associated<br>ratio*
! Temperaments
! Temperaments
|-
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|-
|-
| 12
| 12
| 1\240
| 77\240<br>(3\240)
| 5.00
| 385.00<br>(15.00)
| ?
| 5/4<br>(81/80)
| [[Substitute harmonic#Romcom|Romcom]]
|-
| 12
| 77\240<br />(3\240)
| 385.00<br />(15.00)
| 5/4<br />(81/80)
| [[Compton]]
| [[Compton]]
|}
|}
<nowiki />* [[Normal lists|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[Normal lists|minimal form]] in parentheses if it is distinct
<nowiki/>* [[Normal forms #Equave-reduced-generator form|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[normal forms #Minimal-generator form|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct


== Scales ==
== Scales ==
; Scales derived from marvel and spectacle temperaments
; Scales derived from marvel and spectacle temperaments
* 23 17 23 14 23 17 23 23 14 26 14 23 &ndash; [[Alexander Ellis|Ellis]]'s [[Duodene]] genus [33355] retuned to 240edo
* 23 17 23 14 23 17 23 23 14 26 14 23 [[Alexander Ellis|Ellis]]'s [[Duodene]] genus [33355] retuned to 240edo
* 23 17 14 23 23 17 23 23 14 17 23 23 &ndash; [[Carl Lumma]]'s scale
* 23 17 14 23 23 17 23 23 14 17 23 23 [[Carl Lumma]]'s scale
* 14 9 14 17 23 23 23 17 14 9 14 23 17 23 &ndash; Pum[14] scale
* 14 9 14 17 23 23 23 17 14 9 14 23 17 23 Pum[14] scale
* 16 10 7 7 16 7 7 16 7 10 7 16 7 7 16 7 7 10 16 7 7 16 7 &ndash; Ellis duodene union [[11/9]] times the duodene
* 16 10 7 7 16 7 7 16 7 10 7 16 7 7 16 7 7 10 16 7 7 16 7 Ellis duodene union [[11/9]] times the duodene


=== Other scales ===
=== Other scales ===
* 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 &ndash; [[Compton]][24]
* 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 17 3 [[Compton]][24]
* 23 31 80 23 83 &ndash; [[Indonesian|Balinese]] pentatonic [[pelog]] scale; [[Tolgahan Çoğulu]]'s tuning
* 23 31 80 23 83 [[Indonesian|Balinese]] pentatonic [[pelog]] scale; [[Tolgahan Çoğulu]]'s tuning
 
== Instruments ==
A [[Lumatone mapping for 240edo]] is now available.


== Music ==
== Music ==
The video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GoGlj5IyZc ''Balinese Gamelan Music on Microtonal Guitar - Chris Charles''] on the YouTube channel [https://www.youtube.com/@microtonalguitar Microtonal Guitar - Tolgahan Çoğulu] uses a 5-tone subset of 240edo for all three pieces performed in the recording. As explained in the video description: "''The scale we used in the piece: Pelog Selisir: D, Eb +30 F -15 A -30 Bb -15''".
; [[Chris Charles]] (via [https://www.youtube.com/@microtonalguitar Microtonal Guitar - Tolgahan Çoğulu])
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GoGlj5IyZc ''Balinese Gamelan Music on Microtonal Guitar - Chris Charles''] (2017) (Uses a 5-tone subset of 240edo for all three pieces performed in the recording—as explained in the video description: "''The scale we used in the piece: Pelog Selisir: D, Eb +30 F -15 A -30 Bb -15''".)
 
; [[Bryan Deister]]
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Nu-xBrsd8_o ''microtonal improvisation in 240edo''] (2025)


== Links ==
== Trivia ==
[[Shaahin Mohajeri]], an [[Arabic, Turkish, Persian music|Iranian]] Tombak player and composer, calls his personal [https://sites.google.com/site/240edo/ Google site] "240edo", where he makes the point that five cents is a size close to the [[Just-noticeable_difference|just noticeable difference]] between pitches.
[[Shaahin Mohajeri]], an [[Arabic, Turkish, Persian music|Iranian]] Tombak player and composer, calls his personal [https://sites.google.com/site/240edo/ Google site] "240edo", where he makes the point that five cents is a size close to the [[just-noticeable difference]] between pitches.


[[Category:Compton]]
[[Category:Compton]]
[[Category:Marvel]]
[[Category:Marvel]]