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S-expressions are encodings of interval relations. They don't make the interval relations trivial! Also don't discuss temps outside the Temperaments section! 1089/1024 is (33/32)^2 so it's always split in two, and it's split in four since 33/32 is split in two
 
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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
| Ratio = 131072/130977
| Ratio = 131072/130977
| Name = olympia
| Name = olympia, olympic comma
| Color name = salururu unison, s1urr1
| Color name = salururu unison, s1urr1
| Comma = yes
| Comma = yes
}}
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The '''olympia''' ([[monzo]]: {{monzo| 17 -5 0 -2 -1 }}, [[ratio]]: 131072/130977) is an 11-limit (also 2.3.7.11 subgroup) [[unnoticeable comma]] measuring about 1.26 [[cent]]s. It is the difference between the undecimal quartertone ([[33/32]]) and a stack of two septimal commas ([[64/63]]). Even more interesting is the possible factorization into two [[13-limit]] [[superparticular]] ratios: [[2080/2079]] × [[4096/4095]]. In fact, the olympia is the default interval represented by three [[mina]]s in the Olympian level of [[Sagittal notation]], from which it gets its name.  
The '''olympia''' ([[monzo]]: {{monzo| 17 -5 0 -2 -1 }}, [[ratio]]: 131072/130977), otherwise known as the '''olympic comma''', is an [[unnoticeable comma|unnoticeable]] [[11-limit]] (specifically [[2.3.7.11 subgroup|2.3.7.11-]][[subgroup]]) [[comma]] measuring about 1.26 [[cent]]s. It is the difference between the undecimal quartertone ([[33/32]]) and a stack of two septimal commas (([[64/63]])<sup>2</sup>), which gives rise to its [[S-expression]] as S64<sup>2</sup>⋅S65. Equivalently, it is the difference between [[22/21]] and a stack of three septimal commas.
 
It factors into two [[13-limit]] [[superparticular ratio]]s: ([[2080/2079]])⋅([[4096/4095]]). These ratios and the olympia itself are the default intervals represented by one, two, and three [[mina]]s in the Olympian level of [[Sagittal notation]], from which it gets its name.  


== Temperaments ==
== Temperaments ==
Tempering out this comma in the full 11-limit results in the rank-4 '''olympic temperament''' , with a very natural 13-limit extension {2080/2079, 4096/4095} (→[[Rank-4 temperament #Olympic (131072/130977)]]).  
[[Tempering out]] this comma in the full 11-limit results in the rank-4 olympic temperament (→ [[Rank-4 temperament #Olympic (131072/130977)]]), or in the 2.3.7.11 subgroup, the rank-3 olympian temperament. In either case, it sets 1–64/63–33/32–22/21–[[1089/1024|(33/32)<sup>2</sup>]] to become equidistant.  


As its order of 11 is one, any 7-limit temperament can be immediately extended to the 11-limit in theory by tempering out this comma. To make practical sense, however, it requires low complexity and high accuracy of 64/63, which is less common.  
Olympic has a very natural 13-limit extension {2080/2079, 4096/4095}. As the comma's order of 11 is one, any 7-limit temperament can be extended to the 11-limit by tempering out this comma, but it works best for temperaments with low complexity and high accuracy in the septimal comma.  


== See also ==
== Etymology ==
* [[Unnoticeable comma]]
The olympia was named by [[Flora Canou]] in 2021, referring to the Olympian level of Sagittal notation.


[[Category:Olympic]]
[[Category:Olympic]]
[[Category:Commas named after musical traditions]]

Latest revision as of 18:59, 12 May 2026

Interval information
Ratio 131072/130977
Factorization 217 × 3-5 × 7-2 × 11-1
Monzo [17 -5 0 -2 -1
Size in cents 1.25524¢
Names olympia,
olympic comma
Color name salururu unison, s1urr1
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{P1}_{7,7,11} }[/math]
Special properties reduced,
reduced subharmonic
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 33.999
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 34
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 74
Comma size unnoticeable
S-expression S642⋅S65
Open this interval in xen-calc

The olympia (monzo: [17 -5 0 -2 -1, ratio: 131072/130977), otherwise known as the olympic comma, is an unnoticeable 11-limit (specifically 2.3.7.11-subgroup) comma measuring about 1.26 cents. It is the difference between the undecimal quartertone (33/32) and a stack of two septimal commas ((64/63)2), which gives rise to its S-expression as S642⋅S65. Equivalently, it is the difference between 22/21 and a stack of three septimal commas.

It factors into two 13-limit superparticular ratios: (2080/2079)⋅(4096/4095). These ratios and the olympia itself are the default intervals represented by one, two, and three minas in the Olympian level of Sagittal notation, from which it gets its name.

Temperaments

Tempering out this comma in the full 11-limit results in the rank-4 olympic temperament (→ Rank-4 temperament #Olympic (131072/130977)), or in the 2.3.7.11 subgroup, the rank-3 olympian temperament. In either case, it sets 1–64/63–33/32–22/21–(33/32)2 to become equidistant.

Olympic has a very natural 13-limit extension {2080/2079, 4096/4095}. As the comma's order of 11 is one, any 7-limit temperament can be extended to the 11-limit by tempering out this comma, but it works best for temperaments with low complexity and high accuracy in the septimal comma.

Etymology

The olympia was named by Flora Canou in 2021, referring to the Olympian level of Sagittal notation.