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== Theory == | |||
[[File:81 EDO structure-accidentals-notation-colour notation.png|thumb| | [[File:81 EDO structure-accidentals-notation-colour notation.png|thumb| | ||
By [[Tom Winspear]], utilizing the Accidents shown below. Left: Chain of 4ths/5ths , Right: Chromatic view. Black font represents the '6 accidentals deep' notation that covers the chromatic scale with enharmonics only across EF & BC. White text displays deep enharmonics in the ambiguous infrared & ultraviolet area of the colour notation. | By [[Tom Winspear]], utilizing the Accidents shown below. Left: Chain of 4ths/5ths, Right: Chromatic view. Black font represents the '6 accidentals deep' notation that covers the chromatic scale with enharmonics only across EF & BC. White text displays deep enharmonics in the ambiguous infrared & ultraviolet area of the colour notation. | ||
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81edo is notable as a tuning for [[meantone family|meantone]] and related temperaments and is the [[optimal patent val]] for a number of them. In particular it is the optimal patent val for 5-limit meantone, 7-limit meantone, 11-limit meanpop, 13-limit meanpop, and the rank-3 temperament [[erato]]. The electronic music pioneer {{w|Daphne Oram}} was interested in 81edo<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20120211182601/http://daphneoram.org/2012/01/13/letter-from-yehudi-menuhin/ Letter from Yehudi Menuhin to Daphne Oram]</ref>. As a step in the [[Golden meantone]] series of edos, 81edo marks the point at which the series ceases to display audible changes to meantone temperament, and is also the edo with the lowest average and most evenly spread Just-error across the scale (though 31edo does have the best [[7/4|harmonic 7th]]). However, it is no longer [[consistent]] in the [[9-odd-limit]], as the best direct approximations of [[9/8]] and [[10/9]] are one step above and below the patent val mapping. | |||
Besides meantone, 81edo is a tuning for the [[cobalt]] temperament, since 81 contains 27 as a divisor. It also tunes the unnamed 15 & 51 temperament which divides the octave into 3 equal parts, and is a member of the [[augmented-cloudy equivalence continuum]]. The 81bd val is a tuning for the [[Porcupine family#Septimal porcupine|septimal porcupine]] temperament. | |||
[[File:81 EDO Accidentals.png| | In the higher limits, it is a strong tuning for the 2.5.17.19 subgroup, and also can be used to map [[19/17]] to the meantone major second resulting from stacking of two patent val fifths (13\81). | ||
=== Odd harmonics === | |||
The innermost accidentals represent | {{Harmonics in equal|81}} | ||
The chromatic scale can be notated utilizing only six accidentals in either | |||
=== Subsets and supersets === | |||
Since 81 is equal to 3<sup>4</sup>, a perfect power of 3, 81edo contains subset edos {{EDOs| 3, 9, and 27 }}. | |||
== Intervals == | |||
{{Interval table}} | |||
== Notation == | |||
=== Stein–Zimmermann–Gould notation === | |||
[[Stein–Zimmermann–Gould notation]] uses sharps and flats with arrows: | |||
{{Sharpness-sharp5-szg}} | |||
=== Kite's ups and downs notation === | |||
81edo can also be notated with [[Kite's ups and downs notation|Kite's ups and downs]], spoken as up, dup, dudsharp, downsharp, sharp, upsharp etc. and down, dud, dupflat etc. Note that dudsharp is equivalent to trup (triple-up) and dupflat is equivalent to trud (triple-down). | |||
{{Sharpness-sharp5a}} | |||
=== Tom Winspear's notation === | |||
[[File:81 EDO Accidentals.png|alt=|959x959px]] | |||
81edo accidentals created and used by [[Tom Winspear]], based on those provided in [[Scala]] though with a logic correction. The innermost accidentals represent one edostep, followed by two, then the bracket representing three. What appears to be a half-sharp is actually a fifth-sharp. Conventional sharp/doublesharp/flat/doubleflat accidentals are reached in steps of five and the pattern repeats itself on them. The chromatic scale can be notated utilizing only six accidentals in either direction—the rest are for enharmonics. | |||
{{ | == Approximation to JI == | ||
=== 15-odd-limit interval mappings === | |||
{{Q-odd-limit intervals|81|15}} | |||
== | == Regular temperament properties == | ||
=== Commas === | |||
* 5-limit commas: 81/80, {{monzo|-48 1 20}} | * 5-limit commas: 81/80, {{monzo|-48 1 20}} | ||
* 7-limit commas: 81/80, 126/125, {{monzo|-24 1 0 8}} | * 7-limit commas: 81/80, 126/125, {{monzo|-24 1 0 8}} | ||
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* [[Leantone6]] | * [[Leantone6]] | ||
* [[Leantone7]] | * [[Leantone7]] | ||
* [[Leantone13]] | * [[Leantone13]] | ||
* [[User:BudjarnLambeth/Antechinus|Antechinus]] | |||
== Instruments == | |||
=== Skip fretting === | |||
'''Skip fretting system 81 7 20''' is a [[skip fretting]] system for [[81edo]]. All examples on this page are for 7-string [[guitar]]. | |||
; Prime harmonics | |||
1/1: string 2 open | |||
2/1: string 5 fret 3 | |||
3/2: string 4 fret 1 and string 7 fret 4 | |||
5/4: string 7 fret 1 | |||
7/4: string 3 fret 18 | |||
11/8: string 3 fret 14 | |||
13/8: string 1 fret 11 and string 4 fret 14 | |||
17/16: string 2 fret 1 and string 5 fret 4 | |||
19/16: string 3 open | |||
23/16: string 2 fret 6 and string 5 fret 9 | |||
29/16: string 3 fret 7 and string 6 fret 10 | |||
31/16: string 2 fret 11 and string 5 fret 14 | |||
; Chords | |||
Minor 7th: 100133x | |||
Dominant 7th: 10113xx | |||
=== Keyboards === | |||
A [[Lumatone mapping for 81edo]] is available. | |||
== Music == | |||
; [[Bryan Deister]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5O6Cyawjkd8 ''''microtonal improvisation in 81edo''] (2025) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yY0TzTiNeB8 ''81edo improv''] (2025) | |||
== Notes == | |||
[[Category:Erato]] | [[Category:Erato]] | ||
[[Category:Golden meantone]] | [[Category:Golden meantone]] | ||
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[[Category:Meantone]] | [[Category:Meantone]] | ||
[[Category:Meanpop]] | [[Category:Meanpop]] | ||
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Latest revision as of 14:09, 12 May 2026
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81 equal divisions of the octave (abbreviated 81edo or 81ed2), also called 81-tone equal temperament (81tet) or 81 equal temperament (81et) when viewed under a regular temperament perspective, is the tuning system that divides the octave into 81 equal parts of about 14.8 ¢ each. Each step represents a frequency ratio of 21/81, or the 81st root of 2.
Theory

81edo is notable as a tuning for meantone and related temperaments and is the optimal patent val for a number of them. In particular it is the optimal patent val for 5-limit meantone, 7-limit meantone, 11-limit meanpop, 13-limit meanpop, and the rank-3 temperament erato. The electronic music pioneer Daphne Oram was interested in 81edo[1]. As a step in the Golden meantone series of edos, 81edo marks the point at which the series ceases to display audible changes to meantone temperament, and is also the edo with the lowest average and most evenly spread Just-error across the scale (though 31edo does have the best harmonic 7th). However, it is no longer consistent in the 9-odd-limit, as the best direct approximations of 9/8 and 10/9 are one step above and below the patent val mapping.
Besides meantone, 81edo is a tuning for the cobalt temperament, since 81 contains 27 as a divisor. It also tunes the unnamed 15 & 51 temperament which divides the octave into 3 equal parts, and is a member of the augmented-cloudy equivalence continuum. The 81bd val is a tuning for the septimal porcupine temperament.
In the higher limits, it is a strong tuning for the 2.5.17.19 subgroup, and also can be used to map 19/17 to the meantone major second resulting from stacking of two patent val fifths (13\81).
Odd harmonics
| Harmonic | 3 | 5 | 7 | 9 | 11 | 13 | 15 | 17 | 19 | 21 | 23 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Error | Absolute (¢) | -5.66 | -1.13 | -5.86 | +3.50 | -3.17 | +3.92 | -6.79 | -1.25 | -1.22 | +3.29 | -6.05 |
| Relative (%) | -38.2 | -7.6 | -39.6 | +23.6 | -21.4 | +26.4 | -45.8 | -8.4 | -8.2 | +22.2 | -40.9 | |
| Steps (reduced) |
128 (47) |
188 (26) |
227 (65) |
257 (14) |
280 (37) |
300 (57) |
316 (73) |
331 (7) |
344 (20) |
356 (32) |
366 (42) | |
Subsets and supersets
Since 81 is equal to 34, a perfect power of 3, 81edo contains subset edos 3, 9, and 27.
Intervals
| Steps | Cents | Approximate ratios | Ups and downs notation (Dual flat fifth 47\81) |
Ups and downs notation (Dual sharp fifth 48\81) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0 | 0 | 1/1 | D | D |
| 1 | 14.8 | ^D, vvE♭♭ | ^D, vvE♭ | |
| 2 | 29.6 | ^^D, vE♭♭ | ^^D, vE♭ | |
| 3 | 44.4 | 38/37, 39/38, 40/39 | vvD♯, E♭♭ | ^3D, E♭ |
| 4 | 59.3 | 29/28, 30/29, 31/30 | vD♯, ^E♭♭ | ^4D, ^E♭ |
| 5 | 74.1 | 23/22, 24/23 | D♯, ^^E♭♭ | ^5D, ^^E♭ |
| 6 | 88.9 | 20/19, 39/37 | ^D♯, vvE♭ | ^6D, ^3E♭ |
| 7 | 103.7 | 17/16, 35/33 | ^^D♯, vE♭ | v5D♯, ^4E♭ |
| 8 | 118.5 | 15/14, 31/29 | vvD𝄪, E♭ | v4D♯, ^5E♭ |
| 9 | 133.3 | 40/37 | vD𝄪, ^E♭ | v3D♯, v6E |
| 10 | 148.1 | 12/11, 37/34 | D𝄪, ^^E♭ | vvD♯, v5E |
| 11 | 163 | 11/10, 34/31 | ^D𝄪, vvE | vD♯, v4E |
| 12 | 177.8 | 31/28 | ^^D𝄪, vE | D♯, v3E |
| 13 | 192.6 | 19/17 | E | ^D♯, vvE |
| 14 | 207.4 | 35/31 | ^E, vvF♭ | ^^D♯, vE |
| 15 | 222.2 | 25/22, 33/29 | ^^E, vF♭ | E |
| 16 | 237 | 39/34 | vvE♯, F♭ | ^E, vvF |
| 17 | 251.9 | 22/19, 37/32 | vE♯, ^F♭ | ^^E, vF |
| 18 | 266.7 | 7/6 | E♯, ^^F♭ | F |
| 19 | 281.5 | 20/17, 33/28 | ^E♯, vvF | ^F, vvG♭ |
| 20 | 296.3 | 19/16 | ^^E♯, vF | ^^F, vG♭ |
| 21 | 311.1 | F | ^3F, G♭ | |
| 22 | 325.9 | 29/24, 35/29 | ^F, vvG♭♭ | ^4F, ^G♭ |
| 23 | 340.7 | 28/23, 39/32 | ^^F, vG♭♭ | ^5F, ^^G♭ |
| 24 | 355.6 | 38/31 | vvF♯, G♭♭ | ^6F, ^3G♭ |
| 25 | 370.4 | 31/25 | vF♯, ^G♭♭ | v5F♯, ^4G♭ |
| 26 | 385.2 | 5/4 | F♯, ^^G♭♭ | v4F♯, ^5G♭ |
| 27 | 400 | 29/23, 39/31 | ^F♯, vvG♭ | v3F♯, v6G |
| 28 | 414.8 | 14/11 | ^^F♯, vG♭ | vvF♯, v5G |
| 29 | 429.6 | 32/25 | vvF𝄪, G♭ | vF♯, v4G |
| 30 | 444.4 | 22/17, 31/24, 40/31 | vF𝄪, ^G♭ | F♯, v3G |
| 31 | 459.3 | 30/23 | F𝄪, ^^G♭ | ^F♯, vvG |
| 32 | 474.1 | 25/19 | ^F𝄪, vvG | ^^F♯, vG |
| 33 | 488.9 | ^^F𝄪, vG | G | |
| 34 | 503.7 | G | ^G, vvA♭ | |
| 35 | 518.5 | 31/23 | ^G, vvA♭♭ | ^^G, vA♭ |
| 36 | 533.3 | 34/25 | ^^G, vA♭♭ | ^3G, A♭ |
| 37 | 548.1 | 11/8 | vvG♯, A♭♭ | ^4G, ^A♭ |
| 38 | 563 | vG♯, ^A♭♭ | ^5G, ^^A♭ | |
| 39 | 577.8 | G♯, ^^A♭♭ | ^6G, ^3A♭ | |
| 40 | 592.6 | 31/22 | ^G♯, vvA♭ | v5G♯, ^4A♭ |
| 41 | 607.4 | ^^G♯, vA♭ | v4G♯, ^5A♭ | |
| 42 | 622.2 | 33/23 | vvG𝄪, A♭ | v3G♯, v6A |
| 43 | 637 | vG𝄪, ^A♭ | vvG♯, v5A | |
| 44 | 651.9 | 16/11, 35/24 | G𝄪, ^^A♭ | vG♯, v4A |
| 45 | 666.7 | 25/17 | ^G𝄪, vvA | G♯, v3A |
| 46 | 681.5 | 37/25 | ^^G𝄪, vA | ^G♯, vvA |
| 47 | 696.3 | A | ^^G♯, vA | |
| 48 | 711.1 | ^A, vvB♭♭ | A | |
| 49 | 725.9 | 35/23, 38/25 | ^^A, vB♭♭ | ^A, vvB♭ |
| 50 | 740.7 | 23/15 | vvA♯, B♭♭ | ^^A, vB♭ |
| 51 | 755.6 | 17/11, 31/20 | vA♯, ^B♭♭ | ^3A, B♭ |
| 52 | 770.4 | 25/16, 39/25 | A♯, ^^B♭♭ | ^4A, ^B♭ |
| 53 | 785.2 | 11/7 | ^A♯, vvB♭ | ^5A, ^^B♭ |
| 54 | 800 | ^^A♯, vB♭ | ^6A, ^3B♭ | |
| 55 | 814.8 | 8/5 | vvA𝄪, B♭ | v5A♯, ^4B♭ |
| 56 | 829.6 | vA𝄪, ^B♭ | v4A♯, ^5B♭ | |
| 57 | 844.4 | 31/19 | A𝄪, ^^B♭ | v3A♯, v6B |
| 58 | 859.3 | 23/14 | ^A𝄪, vvB | vvA♯, v5B |
| 59 | 874.1 | ^^A𝄪, vB | vA♯, v4B | |
| 60 | 888.9 | B | A♯, v3B | |
| 61 | 903.7 | 32/19 | ^B, vvC♭ | ^A♯, vvB |
| 62 | 918.5 | 17/10 | ^^B, vC♭ | ^^A♯, vB |
| 63 | 933.3 | 12/7 | vvB♯, C♭ | B |
| 64 | 948.1 | 19/11 | vB♯, ^C♭ | ^B, vvC |
| 65 | 963 | B♯, ^^C♭ | ^^B, vC | |
| 66 | 977.8 | ^B♯, vvC | C | |
| 67 | 992.6 | 39/22 | ^^B♯, vC | ^C, vvD♭ |
| 68 | 1007.4 | 34/19 | C | ^^C, vD♭ |
| 69 | 1022.2 | ^C, vvD♭♭ | ^3C, D♭ | |
| 70 | 1037 | 20/11, 31/17 | ^^C, vD♭♭ | ^4C, ^D♭ |
| 71 | 1051.9 | 11/6 | vvC♯, D♭♭ | ^5C, ^^D♭ |
| 72 | 1066.7 | 37/20 | vC♯, ^D♭♭ | ^6C, ^3D♭ |
| 73 | 1081.5 | 28/15 | C♯, ^^D♭♭ | v5C♯, ^4D♭ |
| 74 | 1096.3 | 32/17 | ^C♯, vvD♭ | v4C♯, ^5D♭ |
| 75 | 1111.1 | 19/10 | ^^C♯, vD♭ | v3C♯, v6D |
| 76 | 1125.9 | 23/12 | vvC𝄪, D♭ | vvC♯, v5D |
| 77 | 1140.7 | 29/15 | vC𝄪, ^D♭ | vC♯, v4D |
| 78 | 1155.6 | 37/19, 39/20 | C𝄪, ^^D♭ | C♯, v3D |
| 79 | 1170.4 | ^C𝄪, vvD | ^C♯, vvD | |
| 80 | 1185.2 | ^^C𝄪, vD | ^^C♯, vD | |
| 81 | 1200 | 2/1 | D | D |
Notation
Stein–Zimmermann–Gould notation
Stein–Zimmermann–Gould notation uses sharps and flats with arrows:
| Step offset | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sharp symbol | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| Flat symbol | | | | | | | | | | | | |
Kite's ups and downs notation
81edo can also be notated with Kite's ups and downs, spoken as up, dup, dudsharp, downsharp, sharp, upsharp etc. and down, dud, dupflat etc. Note that dudsharp is equivalent to trup (triple-up) and dupflat is equivalent to trud (triple-down).
| Step offset | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sharp symbol | |||||||||||||
| Flat symbol |
Tom Winspear's notation
81edo accidentals created and used by Tom Winspear, based on those provided in Scala though with a logic correction. The innermost accidentals represent one edostep, followed by two, then the bracket representing three. What appears to be a half-sharp is actually a fifth-sharp. Conventional sharp/doublesharp/flat/doubleflat accidentals are reached in steps of five and the pattern repeats itself on them. The chromatic scale can be notated utilizing only six accidentals in either direction—the rest are for enharmonics.
Approximation to JI
15-odd-limit interval mappings
The following tables show how 15-odd-limit intervals are represented in 81edo. Prime harmonics are in bold; inconsistent intervals are in italics.
| Interval and complement | Error (abs, ¢) | Error (rel, %) |
|---|---|---|
| 1/1, 2/1 | 0.000 | 0.0 |
| 7/6, 12/7 | 0.204 | 1.4 |
| 13/9, 18/13 | 0.419 | 2.8 |
| 15/14, 28/15 | 0.924 | 6.2 |
| 5/4, 8/5 | 1.129 | 7.6 |
| 11/10, 20/11 | 2.041 | 13.8 |
| 11/6, 12/11 | 2.489 | 16.8 |
| 11/7, 14/11 | 2.693 | 18.2 |
| 11/8, 16/11 | 3.170 | 21.4 |
| 9/8, 16/9 | 3.497 | 23.6 |
| 15/11, 22/15 | 3.617 | 24.4 |
| 13/8, 16/13 | 3.917 | 26.4 |
| 15/13, 26/15 | 4.111 | 27.7 |
| 5/3, 6/5 | 4.530 | 30.6 |
| 9/5, 10/9 | 4.626 | 31.2 |
| 7/5, 10/7 | 4.734 | 32.0 |
| 13/7, 14/13 | 5.035 | 34.0 |
| 13/10, 20/13 | 5.045 | 34.1 |
| 13/12, 24/13 | 5.239 | 35.4 |
| 9/7, 14/9 | 5.454 | 36.8 |
| 3/2, 4/3 | 5.659 | 38.2 |
| 7/4, 8/7 | 5.863 | 39.6 |
| 11/9, 18/11 | 6.667 | 45.0 |
| 15/8, 16/15 | 6.787 | 45.8 |
| 13/11, 22/13 | 7.087 | 47.8 |
| Interval and complement | Error (abs, ¢) | Error (rel, %) |
|---|---|---|
| 1/1, 2/1 | 0.000 | 0.0 |
| 7/6, 12/7 | 0.204 | 1.4 |
| 15/14, 28/15 | 0.924 | 6.2 |
| 5/4, 8/5 | 1.129 | 7.6 |
| 11/10, 20/11 | 2.041 | 13.8 |
| 11/6, 12/11 | 2.489 | 16.8 |
| 11/7, 14/11 | 2.693 | 18.2 |
| 11/8, 16/11 | 3.170 | 21.4 |
| 15/11, 22/15 | 3.617 | 24.4 |
| 13/8, 16/13 | 3.917 | 26.4 |
| 5/3, 6/5 | 4.530 | 30.6 |
| 7/5, 10/7 | 4.734 | 32.0 |
| 13/10, 20/13 | 5.045 | 34.1 |
| 9/7, 14/9 | 5.454 | 36.8 |
| 3/2, 4/3 | 5.659 | 38.2 |
| 7/4, 8/7 | 5.863 | 39.6 |
| 15/8, 16/15 | 6.787 | 45.8 |
| 13/11, 22/13 | 7.087 | 47.8 |
| 11/9, 18/11 | 8.148 | 55.0 |
| 13/12, 24/13 | 9.575 | 64.6 |
| 13/7, 14/13 | 9.780 | 66.0 |
| 9/5, 10/9 | 10.189 | 68.8 |
| 15/13, 26/15 | 10.704 | 72.3 |
| 9/8, 16/9 | 11.317 | 76.4 |
| 13/9, 18/13 | 15.234 | 102.8 |
Regular temperament properties
Commas
- 5-limit commas: 81/80, [-48 1 20⟩
- 7-limit commas: 81/80, 126/125, [-24 1 0 8⟩
- 11-limit commas: 81/80, 126/125, 385/384, 12005/11979
- 13-limit commas: 81/80, 105/104, 144/143, 196/195, 6655/6591
Scales
Instruments
Skip fretting
Skip fretting system 81 7 20 is a skip fretting system for 81edo. All examples on this page are for 7-string guitar.
- Prime harmonics
1/1: string 2 open
2/1: string 5 fret 3
3/2: string 4 fret 1 and string 7 fret 4
5/4: string 7 fret 1
7/4: string 3 fret 18
11/8: string 3 fret 14
13/8: string 1 fret 11 and string 4 fret 14
17/16: string 2 fret 1 and string 5 fret 4
19/16: string 3 open
23/16: string 2 fret 6 and string 5 fret 9
29/16: string 3 fret 7 and string 6 fret 10
31/16: string 2 fret 11 and string 5 fret 14
- Chords
Minor 7th: 100133x
Dominant 7th: 10113xx
Keyboards
A Lumatone mapping for 81edo is available.
Music
- ''microtonal improvisation in 81edo (2025)
- 81edo improv (2025)



