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Since 44/35 is flat of the pyth major third by this interval, it's fwiwismic, not valinorsmic.
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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
| Ratio = 2835/2816
| Ratio = 2835/2816
| Name = fwiwisma, 35/11 kleisma
| Name = fwiwisma, 35/11 kleisma, kalismic half pythcomma
| Color name = L1uzy1, Laluzoyo comma
| Color name = L1uzy1, Laluzoyo comma
| Comma = yes
| Comma = yes
}}
}}
'''2835/2816''', the '''fwiwisma''', is a [[comma]] with a value of approximately 11.6 [[cent]]s. It represents the difference between:


The [[Sagittal]] '''35/11 kleisma''' or '''fwiwisma''' is a [[comma]] with a [[ratio]] of '''2835/2816''' and a value of approximately 11.64 [[cent]]s. In the Sagittal system, this comma (possibly tempered) is represented (in a secondary role) by the sagittal {{sagittal | )|( }} and is called the '''35/11 kleisma''', or '''35/11k''' for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 35/11 = 5×7/11 (equiv. 35/22), as for example in A-F{{nbhsp}}{{sagittal | )|( }}. The primary role of {{ sagittal | )|( }} is [[896/891#Sagittal notation|896/891]] (11/7k up). The downward version is called '''11/35k''' or '''35/11k down''' and is represented (in a secondary role) by {{sagittal| )!( }}.
* [[45/44]] and [[64/63]]
* [[81/64]] and [[44/35]].
* [[729/512]] and [[99/70]]


It represents the difference between [[45/44]] and [[64/63]], and is tempered out in [[miracle]], as well as supporting edos {{EDOs| 31, 41, and 72 }}. It is also the sum of [[243/242]] and [[385/384]], and so is tempered out in the rank-3 temperament [[mirwomo]]. It is also the difference between the Pythagorean major third ([[81/64]]) and [[44/35]].
Due to this last difference, it notably serves as a half [[pythagorean comma]] for a strong rational representation of √2-[[hemipyth]].
 
== Temperaments ==
This comma is [[tempering out|tempered out]] in [[miracle]], as well as supporting edos {{EDOs| 31, 41, and 72 }}. It is also the sum of [[243/242]] and [[385/384]], and so is tempered out in the rank-3 temperament [[mirwomo]].  
 
If instead tempered, in [[kalismic]], the pythagorean comma is halved, wherein each half represents 2835/2816~[[72171/71680]].
 
== Notation ==
In the [[Sagittal]] system, this comma (possibly tempered) is represented in a secondary role by the sagittal {{sagittal| )|( }} and is called the '''35/11 kleisma''', or '''35/11k''' for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 35/11 = 5×7/11 (equiv. 35/22), as for example in A–F{{nbhsp}}{{sagittal| )|( }}. The primary role of {{sagittal| )|( }} is [[896/891 #Sagittal notation|896/891]] (11/7k up). The downward version is called '''11/35k''' or '''35/11k down''' and is represented in a secondary role by {{sagittal| )!( }}.


== Etymology ==
== Etymology ==
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fwiw I'd rather you not. there's already a blumeyer, blume, and yer commas which are related which I named after myself, and I don't think this is related to them. why not name it the davesma or something, by your logic? or you could name it the fwiwisma lol
fwiw I'd rather you not. there's already a blumeyer, blume, and yer commas which are related which I named after myself, and I don't think this is related to them. why not name it the davesma or something, by your logic? or you could name it the fwiwisma lol
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[[Category:Fwiwismic]]
[[Category:Commas named systematically]]
[[Category:Commas named following events]]