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{{Infobox Interval
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| Ratio = 19/17
| Monzo = 0 0 0 0 0 0 -1 1
| Cents = 192.55761
| Name = quasi-meantone
| Name = quasi-meantone
| Color name = 19o17u2, nosu 2nd
| Color name = 19o17u2, nosu 2nd
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'''19/17''' is the interval between [[9/8]] and [[10/9]], two common sizes of whole tone. In [[meantone]] systems, the two are conflated into one interval, which converges increasingly closely to a perfect 19/17 in successive steps of the golden meantone sequence.  
'''19/17''' is a [[19-limit]] [[just intonation]] interval intermediate in size to [[9/8]] and [[10/9]], two common sizes of whole tone. In [[meantone]] systems, the two are conflated into one interval, for which 19/17 is often a good rational approximation, depending on the exact meantone tuning. It is a particularly good rational approximation to the whole tone of quarter comma meantone, as two of them fall short of a perfect [[5/4]] by [[1445/1444]], or 1.1985 cents. 19/17 is also very close to the size of the whole tone in golden meantone, being only about a tenth of a cent off.  


19/17 is the [[mediant]] of 9/8 and 10/9: (9 + 10)/(8 + 9) = 19/17.
== Approximation ==
{{Interval edo approximation|19/17}}
== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[34/19]] its [[inverse interval]]
* [[15/14]] – its coordinated semi-meantone ((19/17)<sup>5</sup> × (15/14)<sup>2</sup> = (2/1) / ([[mercurial comma]]))
* [[34/19]] its [[octave complement]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]


[[Category:19-limit]]
[[Category:Second]]
[[Category:Interval]]
[[Category:Whole tone]]
[[Category:Ratio]]
[[Category:Just interval]]
[[Category:Meantone]]
[[Category:Meantone]]
[[Category:Sound example]]
[[Category:Mercurial]]
 
[[Category:Taxicab-2 intervals]]
[[Category:todo:expand]]

Latest revision as of 16:35, 27 January 2026

Interval information
Ratio 19/17
Subgroup monzo 17.19 [-1 1
Size in cents 192.5576¢
Name quasi-meantone
Color name 19o17u2, nosu 2nd
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{M2}^{19}_{17} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 8.33539
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 8.49586
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 36

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19/17 is a 19-limit just intonation interval intermediate in size to 9/8 and 10/9, two common sizes of whole tone. In meantone systems, the two are conflated into one interval, for which 19/17 is often a good rational approximation, depending on the exact meantone tuning. It is a particularly good rational approximation to the whole tone of quarter comma meantone, as two of them fall short of a perfect 5/4 by 1445/1444, or 1.1985 cents. 19/17 is also very close to the size of the whole tone in golden meantone, being only about a tenth of a cent off.

19/17 is the mediant of 9/8 and 10/9: (9 + 10)/(8 + 9) = 19/17.

Approximation

Edo approximations for 19/17 (192.56 ¢)
≤ 80edo, relative error ≤ 10%
Edo Step size Cents (¢) Absolute error (¢) Relative error (%)
6 1\6 200.00 +7.44 +3.72
12 2\12 200.00 +7.44 +7.44
13 2\13 184.62 -7.94 -8.60
19 3\19 189.47 -3.08 -4.88
25 4\25 192.00 -0.56 -1.16
31 5\31 193.55 +0.99 +2.56
37 6\37 194.59 +2.04 +6.28
38 6\38 189.47 -3.08 -9.77
44 7\44 190.91 -1.65 -6.04
50 8\50 192.00 -0.56 -2.32
56 9\56 192.86 +0.30 +1.40
62 10\62 193.55 +0.99 +5.12
68 11\68 194.12 +1.56 +8.84
69 11\69 191.30 -1.25 -7.21
75 12\75 192.00 -0.56 -3.49

See also