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The '''classic grave fifth''' of '''40/27''' is the interval between [[9/8]] and [[5/3]]. It is a syntonic comma ([[81/80]]) flat of [[3/2]]. In some contexts it may be considered a "wolf fifth". In [[meantone]], of course, it is equated with a perfect fifth.
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Although often underappreciated and even avoided on account of its dissonant sound in comparison to the perfect fifth, it can nevertheless prove useful in the hands of the right composer.  Specifically, when used as an interval in its own right, or as the interval spanning the difference between the root and the fifth of a chord, its dark and active sound creates a kind of tension that, in classical-leaning or even medieval-leaning styles, can be arguably followed up either by a chord containing a [[64/45]] tritone for an increase in tension, or by a chord with a perfect fifth between the root and the fifth for a decrease in tension.  Alternatively, a chord built around this grave fifth may be used in chord that acts as the final chord in an interrupted cadence with the effect of making such a cadence all the more powerful.
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;40_27&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;The grave fifth of 40/27 is the interval between &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/9_8"&gt;9/8&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5_3"&gt;5/3&lt;/a&gt;. It is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/81_80"&gt;81/80&lt;/a&gt;, a syntonic comma, flat of 3/2. In &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/meantone"&gt;meantone&lt;/a&gt;, of course, it is equated with a perfect fifth.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
In [[Zarlino]], it appears as the fifth of the ii chord.
== Approximation ==
{{Interval edo approximation|40/27}}
== See also ==
* [[27/20]] – its [[octave complement]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
 
[[Category:Fifth]]

Latest revision as of 13:17, 3 November 2025

Interval information
Ratio 40/27
Factorization 23 × 3-3 × 5
Monzo [3 -3 1
Size in cents 680.4487¢
Names wolf fifth,
classic grave fifth
Color name y5, yo 5th
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{P5}^{5} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 10.0768
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 10.6439
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 20

[sound info]
Open this interval in xen-calc

The classic grave fifth of 40/27 is the interval between 9/8 and 5/3. It is a syntonic comma (81/80) flat of 3/2. In some contexts it may be considered a "wolf fifth". In meantone, of course, it is equated with a perfect fifth.

Although often underappreciated and even avoided on account of its dissonant sound in comparison to the perfect fifth, it can nevertheless prove useful in the hands of the right composer. Specifically, when used as an interval in its own right, or as the interval spanning the difference between the root and the fifth of a chord, its dark and active sound creates a kind of tension that, in classical-leaning or even medieval-leaning styles, can be arguably followed up either by a chord containing a 64/45 tritone for an increase in tension, or by a chord with a perfect fifth between the root and the fifth for a decrease in tension. Alternatively, a chord built around this grave fifth may be used in chord that acts as the final chord in an interrupted cadence with the effect of making such a cadence all the more powerful.

In Zarlino, it appears as the fifth of the ii chord.

Approximation

Edo approximations for 40/27 (680.45 ¢)
≤ 80edo, relative error ≤ 10%
Edo Step size Cents (¢) Absolute error (¢) Relative error (%)
7 4\7 685.71 +5.27 +3.07
14 8\14 685.71 +5.27 +6.14
16 9\16 675.00 -5.45 -7.26
21 12\21 685.71 +5.27 +9.21
23 13\23 678.26 -2.19 -4.19
30 17\30 680.00 -0.45 -1.12
37 21\37 681.08 +0.63 +1.95
44 25\44 681.82 +1.37 +5.02
46 26\46 678.26 -2.19 -8.39
51 29\51 682.35 +1.90 +8.09
53 30\53 679.25 -1.20 -5.32
60 34\60 680.00 -0.45 -2.24
67 38\67 680.60 +0.15 +0.83
74 42\74 681.08 +0.63 +3.90
76 43\76 678.95 -1.50 -9.51

See also