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=== Prime harmonics ===
=== Prime harmonics ===
{{Harmonics in equal|77|columns=9}}
{{Harmonics in equal|77|columns=9}}
{{Harmonics in equal|77|columns=9|start=10|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of prime harmonics in 77edo (continued)}}
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=== Subsets and supersets ===
=== Subsets and supersets ===
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== Notation ==
== Notation ==
=== Ups and downs notation ===
=== Ups and downs notation ===
Using [[Helmholtz–Ellis]] accidentals, 77edo can be notated using [[ups and downs notation]]:


77edo can be notated using [[ups and downs notation|ups and downs]]. Trup is equivalent to quudsharp, trudsharp is equivalent to quup, etc.
{{Sharpness-sharp7a}}
Alternatively, sharps and flats with arrows borrowed from [[Helmholtz–Ellis notation]] can be used:
{{Sharpness-sharp7}}
{{Sharpness-sharp7}}


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== Approximation to JI ==
== Approximation to JI ==
=== Zeta peak index ===
=== Zeta peak index ===
{| class="wikitable center-all"
{{ZPI
|-
| zpi = 414
! colspan="3" | Tuning
| steps = 76.9918536925042
! colspan="3" | Strength
| step size = 15.5860645308353
! colspan="2" | Closest edo
| tempered height = 8.194847
! colspan="2" | Integer limit
| pure height = 8.145298
|-
| integral = 1.311364
! ZPI
| gap = 17.029289
! Steps per octave
| octave = 1200.12696887432
! Step size (cents)
| consistent = 10
! Height
| distinct = 10
! Integral
}}
! Gap
! Edo
! Octave (cents)
! Consistent
! Distinct
|-
| [[414zpi]]
| 76.9918536925042
| 15.5860645308353
| 8.194847
| 1.311364
| 17.029289
| 77edo
| 1200.12696887432
| 10
| 10
|}


== Regular temperament properties ==
== Regular temperament properties ==
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|}
<nowiki/>* [[Normal lists|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[Normal lists|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct
<nowiki/>* [[Normal lists|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[Normal lists|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct
== Instruments ==
=== Skip fretting ===
'''Skip fretting system 77 9 11''' is a [[skip fretting]] system that tunes strings 11\77 apart, with frets placed at intervals of 9\77, or 8.555...-edo. All examples on this page are for 7-string [[guitar]].
; Intervals
0\77=1/1: string 2 open
77\77=2/1: string 7 fret 11
45\77=3/2: string 2 fret 5
25\77=5/4: string 1 fret 4
62\77=7/4: string 6 fret 2
35\77=11/8: string 4 fret 10
54\77=13/8: string 2 fret 6
7\77=17/16: string 1 fret 2
19\77=19/16: string 5 fret 7
40\77=23/16: string 4 fret 2
; Chords
x00030x: Neutral 9th (saj6, v5)
=== Keyboards ===
[[Lumatone mapping for 77edo|Lumatone mappings for 77edo]] are available.


== Music ==
== Music ==
; [[Bryan Deister]
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wSZez2KgP2U ''microtonal improvisation in 77edo''] (2025)
; [[Jake Freivald]]
; [[Jake Freivald]]
* [http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Freivald-J.-A-Seed-Planted-2nd-Version-77edo.mp3 ''A Seed Planted'']{{dead link}}, in an [https://web.archive.org/web/20190412162407/http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/archives/1391 organ version] of [[Claudi Meneghin]].
* [http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Freivald-J.-A-Seed-Planted-2nd-Version-77edo.mp3 ''A Seed Planted'']{{dead link}}, in an [https://web.archive.org/web/20190412162407/http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/archives/1391 organ version] of [[Claudi Meneghin]].
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* [http://micro.soonlabel.com/star/20120830-77et-star.mp3 ''77et Star'']
* [http://micro.soonlabel.com/star/20120830-77et-star.mp3 ''77et Star'']


== Instruments ==
[[Skip fretting system 77 9 11]]
[[Category:Listen]]
[[Category:Listen]]
[[Category:Star]]
[[Category:Star]]
[[Category:Starling]]
[[Category:Starling]]
[[Category:Valentine]]
[[Category:Valentine]]

Latest revision as of 09:38, 2 July 2025

← 76edo 77edo 78edo →
Prime factorization 7 × 11
Step size 15.5844 ¢ 
Fifth 45\77 (701.299 ¢)
Semitones (A1:m2) 7:6 (109.1 ¢ : 93.51 ¢)
Consistency limit 9
Distinct consistency limit 9

77 equal divisions of the octave (abbreviated 77edo or 77ed2), also called 77-tone equal temperament (77tet) or 77 equal temperament (77et) when viewed under a regular temperament perspective, is the tuning system that divides the octave into 77 equal parts of about 15.6 ¢ each. Each step represents a frequency ratio of 21/77, or the 77th root of 2.

Theory

With harmonic 3 less than a cent flat, harmonic 5 a bit over three cents sharp and 7 less flat than that, 77edo represents an excellent tuning choice for both valentine (hence also Carlos Alpha), the 31 & 46 temperament, and starling, the rank-3 temperament tempering out 126/125, giving the optimal patent val for 11-limit valentine and its 13-limit extension valentino, as well as 11-limit starling and oxpecker temperaments. For desirers of purer/more convincing harmonies of 19, it's also a great choice for nestoria (the extension of schismic to prime 19) so that ~16:19:24 can be heard to concord in isolation. It also gives the optimal patent val for grackle and various members of the unicorn family, with a generator of 4\77 instead of the 5\77 (which gives valentine); it is a very good choice for full-subgroup unicorn. These are 7-limit alicorn and 11- and 13-limit camahueto.

77et tempers out the schisma (32805/32768) in the 5-limit; 126/125, 1029/1024, and 6144/6125 in the 7-limit; 121/120, 176/175, 385/384, and 441/440 in the 11-limit; and 196/195, 351/350, 352/351, 676/675 and 729/728 in the 13-limit.

The 17 and 19 are tuned fairly well, making it consistent to the no-11 21-odd-limit. The equal temperament tempers out 256/255 in the 17-limit; and 171/170, 361/360, 513/512, and 1216/1215 in the 19-limit.

It also does surprisingly well (for its size) in a large range of very high odd-limits (41 to 125 range).

Prime harmonics

Approximation of prime harmonics in 77edo
Harmonic 2 3 5 7 11 13 17 19 23
Error Absolute (¢) +0.00 -0.66 +3.30 -2.59 -5.86 +1.03 +4.14 -1.41 -4.90
Relative (%) +0.0 -4.2 +21.2 -16.6 -37.6 +6.6 +26.5 -9.0 -31.4
Steps
(reduced)
77
(0)
122
(45)
179
(25)
216
(62)
266
(35)
285
(54)
315
(7)
327
(19)
348
(40)
Approximation of prime harmonics in 77edo (continued)
Harmonic 29 31 37 41 43 47 53 59 61 67
Error Absolute (¢) -1.01 -7.37 -1.99 +7.30 +2.77 +4.62 -0.78 +0.57 +5.19 -1.38
Relative (%) -6.5 -47.3 -12.8 +46.8 +17.8 +29.7 -5.0 +3.6 +33.3 -8.9
Steps
(reduced)
374
(66)
381
(73)
401
(16)
413
(28)
418
(33)
428
(43)
441
(56)
453
(68)
457
(72)
467
(5)

Subsets and supersets

Since 77 factors into primes as 7 × 11, 77edo contains 7edo and 11edo as subset edos.

Intervals

# Cents Approximate ratios* Ups and downs notation
0 0.0 1/1 D
1 15.6 81/80, 91/90, 99/98, 105/104 ^D, ^^E♭♭
2 31.2 49/48, 55/54, 64/63, 65/64, 100/99 ^^D, ^3E♭♭
3 46.8 33/32, 36/35, 40/39, 45/44, 50/49 ^3D, v3E♭
4 62.3 26/25, 27/26, 28/27 v3D♯, vvE♭
5 77.9 21/20, 22/21, 25/24 vvD♯, vE♭
6 93.5 18/17, 19/18, 20/19 vD♯, E♭
7 109.1 16/15, 17/16 D♯, ^E♭
8 124.7 14/13, 15/14 ^D♯, ^^E♭
9 140.3 13/12 ^^D♯, ^3E♭
10 155.8 11/10, 12/11 ^3D♯, v3E
11 171.4 21/19 v3D𝄪, vvE
12 187.0 10/9 vvD𝄪, vE
13 202.6 9/8 E
14 218.2 17/15 ^E, ^^F♭
15 233.8 8/7 ^^E, ^3F♭
16 249.4 15/13, 22/19 ^3E, v3F
17 264.9 7/6 v3E♯, vvF
18 280.5 20/17 vvE♯, vF
19 296.1 13/11, 19/16, 32/27 F
20 311.7 6/5 ^F, ^^G♭♭
21 327.3 98/81 ^^F, ^3G♭♭
22 342.9 11/9, 17/14 ^3F, v3G♭
23 358.4 16/13, 21/17 v3F♯, vvG♭
24 374.0 26/21, 56/45 vvF♯, vG♭
25 389.6 5/4 vF♯, G♭
26 405.2 19/15, 24/19, 33/26 F♯, ^G♭
27 420.8 14/11, 32/25 ^F♯, ^^G♭
28 436.4 9/7 ^^F♯, ^3G♭
29 451.9 13/10 ^3F♯, v3G
30 467.5 17/13, 21/16 v3F𝄪, vvG
31 483.1 120/91 vvF𝄪, vG
32 498.7 4/3 G
33 514.3 27/20 ^G, ^^A♭♭
34 529.9 19/14 ^^G, ^3A♭♭
35 545.5 11/8, 15/11, 26/19 ^3G, v3A♭
36 561.0 18/13 v3G♯, vvA♭
37 576.6 7/5 vvG♯, vA♭
38 592.2 24/17, 38/27, 45/32 vG♯, A♭

* As a 19-limit temperament

Notation

Ups and downs notation

77edo can be notated using ups and downs. Trup is equivalent to quudsharp, trudsharp is equivalent to quup, etc.

Step offset 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
Sharp symbol
Flat symbol

Alternatively, sharps and flats with arrows borrowed from Helmholtz–Ellis notation can be used:

Step offset 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
Sharp symbol
Flat symbol

Sagittal notation

Evo flavor

Sagittal notationPeriodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation81/8064/6333/32

Revo flavor

Sagittal notationPeriodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation81/8064/6333/32

Approximation to JI

Zeta peak index

Tuning Strength Octave (cents) Integer limit
ZPI Steps
per 8ve
Step size
(cents)
Height Integral Gap Size Stretch Consistent Distinct
Tempered Pure
414zpi 76.991854 15.586065 8.194847 8.145298 1.311364 17.029289 1200.126969 0.126969 10 10

Regular temperament properties

Subgroup Comma list Mapping Optimal
8ve stretch (¢)
Tuning error
Absolute (¢) Relative (%)
2.3 [-122 77 [77 122]] +0.207 0.207 1.33
2.3.5 32805/32768, 1594323/1562500 [77 122 179]] −0.336 0.785 5.04
2.3.5.7 126/125, 1029/1024, 10976/10935 [77 122 179 216]] −0.021 0.872 5.59
2.3.5.7.11 121/120, 126/125, 176/175, 10976/10935 [77 122 179 216 266]] +0.322 1.039 6.66
2.3.5.7.11.13 121/120, 126/125, 176/175, 196/195, 676/675 [77 122 179 216 266 285]] +0.222 0.974 6.25

Rank-2 temperaments

Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator
Periods
per 8ve
Generator* Cents* Associated
ratio*
Temperament
1 4\77 62.3 28/27 Unicorn / alicorn (77e) / camahueto (77) / qilin (77)
1 5\77 77.9 21/20 Valentine
1 9\77 140.3 13/12 Tsaharuk
1 15\77 233.8 8/7 Guiron
1 16\77 249.4 15/13 Hemischis (77e)
1 20\77 311.7 6/5 Oolong
1 23\77 358.4 16/13 Restles
1 31\77 483.1 45/34 Hemiseven
1 32\77 498.7 4/3 Grackle
1 34\77 529.9 512/375 Tuskaloosa / muscogee
1 36\77 561.0 18/13 Demivalentine
7 32\77
(1\77)
498.7
(15.6)
4/3
(81/80)
Absurdity
11 32\77
(3\77)
498.7
(46.8)
4/3
(36/35)
Hendecatonic

* Octave-reduced form, reduced to the first half-octave, and minimal form in parentheses if distinct

Instruments

Skip fretting

Skip fretting system 77 9 11 is a skip fretting system that tunes strings 11\77 apart, with frets placed at intervals of 9\77, or 8.555...-edo. All examples on this page are for 7-string guitar.

Intervals

0\77=1/1: string 2 open

77\77=2/1: string 7 fret 11

45\77=3/2: string 2 fret 5

25\77=5/4: string 1 fret 4

62\77=7/4: string 6 fret 2

35\77=11/8: string 4 fret 10

54\77=13/8: string 2 fret 6

7\77=17/16: string 1 fret 2

19\77=19/16: string 5 fret 7

40\77=23/16: string 4 fret 2

Chords

x00030x: Neutral 9th (saj6, v5)

Keyboards

Lumatone mappings for 77edo are available.

Music

[[Bryan Deister]
Jake Freivald
Joel Grant Taylor
Chris Vaisvil