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'''Xenharmonicist A''' might argue that an error less than 15ish | '''Xenharmonicist A''' might argue that an error less than 15ish cents on most intervals, and less than 5 cents on the really important ones (like the perfect fifth and the octave), is accurate enough. | ||
And they might argue that 25 notes per [[equave]] is the most that is practical, any more than that is too cumbersome. | And they might argue that 25 notes per [[equave]] is the most that is practical, any more than that is too cumbersome. | ||
They might argue that nobody can hear the harmonic effect of | They might argue that nobody can hear the harmonic effect of prime harmonics higher than 11. | ||
And they might argue that there's no real reason to use | And they might argue that there's no real reason to use subgroups that are missing primes 2 or 3, because those primes are so important to consonance. | ||
'''Xenharmonicist B''' might argue that the error must be less than 5ish cents on most intervals, anything further out than that sounds out of tune to them. | '''Xenharmonicist B''' might argue that the error must be less than 5ish cents on most intervals, anything further out than that sounds out of tune to them. | ||
They might argue that it's perfectly possible to learn up to 50 notes per equave. | They might argue that it's perfectly possible to learn up to 50 notes per [[equave]]. | ||
They might argue that they can hear the subtle, delicate effect of prime harmonics up to 23. | They might argue that they can hear the subtle, delicate effect of prime harmonics up to 23. | ||
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Alternatively, it can be interpreted as a high-accuracy 2.3.17.19 subgroup temperament, where all of the intervals have an error less than 5 cents. | Alternatively, it can be interpreted as a high-accuracy 2.3.17.19 subgroup temperament, where all of the intervals have an error less than 5 cents. | ||
So that should provide a | So that should provide a point of comparison to help measure these other temperaments against. | ||
== | == Guide to tables == | ||
'''Rows''' | '''Rows''' | ||
The rows categorise temperaments by accuracy. That is, how closely they approximate [[just intonation]] intervals. The categories are: | |||
* Exotemperament: > ~18 [[cents]] of [[error]] on more than one targeted interval | |||
* Low accuracy: < ~18c error on most targeted intervals | |||
* Medium accuracy: < 12c error on most targeted intervals | |||
* High accuracy: < 7c error on almost all targeted intervals | |||
* Very high accuracy: < 3.5c error on almost all targeted intervals | |||
* Microtemperaments: < 1c on all targeted intervals | |||
The definition of "targeted interval" is left deliberately vague, because some temperaments serve a specific purpose and must be assessed differently. In most cases on this page, it refers to the set of intervals that occur in a [[tonality diamond]] of the temperament's subgroup. | |||
'''Columns''' | |||
The columns categorise temperaments by [[complexity]]. | |||
Rank 2 temperaments can generate scales with any number of notes per [[equave]]. However, if they have too few notes, they won't be able approximate enough targeted intervals to be useful, and if they have too many notes, they will be filled with extra notes that don't serve much purpose and get in the way. Just how many notes is about right, varies from temperament to temperament. In layman’s terms: More notes needed = more complexity, less notes needed = less complexity. The real definition of complexity is more involved and rigorous than this, but this is good enough for the purposes of a broad overview page. | |||
'''Subgroup categorisation''' | |||
If a temperament fits under multiple subgroup headings (e.g. both No-2s and No-5s) it should be placed only under the lowest numbered heading (in this example, No-2s). | |||
== 5-limit == | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+ | |||
! | |||
! Approx. 10 notes | |||
! Approx. 20 notes | |||
! Approx. 30 notes | |||
! Approx. 70 notes | |||
! Over 100 notes | |||
|- | |||
! Exotemperament (18-∞c) | |||
| [[antitonic]], [[bug]], [[dicot]], [[father]] | |||
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! Low accuracy (12-18c) | |||
| [[augmented]], [[blackwood]], [[dimipent]], [[porcupine]], [[whitewood]] | |||
| [[superpyth]] | |||
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|- | |||
! Medium accuracy (7-12c) | |||
| [[meantone]] | |||
| [[hanson]], [[magic]] | |||
| [[valentine]] | |||
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|- | |||
! High accuracy (3.5-7c) | |||
| [[diaschismic]] | |||
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! Very high accuracy (1-3.5c) | |||
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| [[wuerschmidt]] | |||
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|- | |||
! Microtemperament (0-1c) | |||
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| schismic aka [[Helmholtz temperament|Helmholtz]] | |||
| [[kwazy]] | |||
|} | |||
== 7-limit == | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+ | |||
! | |||
! Approx. 10 notes | |||
! Approx. 20 notes | |||
! Approx. 30 notes | |||
! Approx. 70 notes | |||
! Over 100 notes | |||
|- | |||
! Exotemperament (18-∞c) | |||
| [[antitonic]], [[dicot]], [[father]] | |||
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! Low accuracy (12-18c) | |||
| [[blacksmith]] | |||
| [[augene]], [[godzilla]], [[pajara]], [[porcupine]], [[whitewood]] | |||
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|- | |||
! Medium accuracy (7-12c) | |||
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| [[magic]], [[meantone]], [[mothra]], [[sensi]], [[superpyth]] | |||
| [[valentine]] | |||
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|- | |||
! High accuracy (3.5-7c) | |||
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| [[orwell]] | |||
| [[diaschismic]], [[garibaldi]] | |||
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|- | |||
! Very high accuracy (1-3.5c) | |||
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| [[miracle]] | |||
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! Microtemperament (0-1c) | |||
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| [[ennealimmal]] | |||
| [[enneadecal]], [[trinity]] | |||
|} | |||
== | == 11-limit == | ||
{| class="wikitable | {| class="wikitable" | ||
|+ | |+ | ||
! | ! | ||
! | ! Approx. 10 notes | ||
! | ! Approx. 20 notes | ||
! | ! Approx. 30 notes | ||
! | ! Approx. 70 notes | ||
! | ! Over 100 notes | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! Exotemperament (18-∞c) | ||
| [[ | | [[antitonic]], [[dicot]], [[father]] | ||
| [[ | | | ||
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| [[ | | | ||
| [[ | | | ||
|- | |||
! Low accuracy (12-18c) | |||
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| [[augene]], [[blacksmith]], [[pajara]], [[porcupine]], [[whitewood]] | |||
| [[godzilla]], [[superpyth]] | |||
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|- | |||
! Medium accuracy (7-12c) | |||
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| [[magic]], [[meanpop]], [[meantone]], [[mothra]], [[valentine]] | |||
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! High accuracy (3.5-7c) | |||
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| [[diaschismic]], [[orwell]] | |||
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! Very high accuracy (1-3.5c) | |||
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| [[miracle]] | |||
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|- | |- | ||
! | ! Microtemperament (0-1c) | ||
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| [[ennealimmal | | [[ennealimmal]] | ||
| [[enneadecal]], [[trinity]] | | [[enneadecal]], [[trinity]] | ||
|} | |||
== 13-limit == | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+ | |||
! | |||
! Approx. 10 notes | |||
! Approx. 20 notes | |||
! Approx. 30 notes | |||
! Approx. 70 notes | |||
! Over 100 notes | |||
|- | |||
! Exotemperament (18-∞c) | |||
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|- | |||
! Low accuracy (12-18c) | |||
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| [[augene]], [[blacksmith]], [[pajara]], [[porcupine]], [[whitewood]] | |||
| [[superpyth]] | |||
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! Medium accuracy (7-12c) | |||
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| [[magic]], [[meantone]], [[mothra]] | |||
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! High accuracy (3.5-7c) | |||
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| [[diaschismic]], [[orwell]] | |||
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! Very high accuracy (1-3.5c) | |||
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|- | |- | ||
! | ! Microtemperament (0-1c) | ||
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| [[ennealimmal | | [[ennealimmal]] | ||
| [[enneadecal]], [[trinity]] | | [[enneadecal]], [[trinity]] | ||
|} | |||
== 17-limit == | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+ | |||
! | |||
! Approx. 10 notes | |||
! Approx. 20 notes | |||
! Approx. 30 notes | |||
! Approx. 70 notes | |||
! Over 100 notes | |||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! Exotemperament (18-∞c) | ||
| ( | | | ||
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| [[diaschismic]] | | | ||
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! Low accuracy (12-18c) | |||
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| [[pajara]] | |||
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! Medium accuracy (7-12c) | |||
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! High accuracy (3.5-7c) | |||
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| [[diaschismic]] | |||
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! Very high accuracy (1-3.5c) | |||
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|- | |- | ||
! | ! Microtemperament (0-1c) | ||
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| [[ennealimmal | | [[ennealimmal]] | ||
| [[trinity]] | | [[trinity]] | ||
|} | |||
== Higher limits == | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+ | |||
! | |||
! Approx. 10 notes | |||
! Approx. 20 notes | |||
! Approx. 30 notes | |||
! Approx. 70 notes | |||
! Over 100 notes | |||
|- | |||
! Exotemperament (18-∞c) | |||
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! Low accuracy (12-18c) | |||
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! | ! Medium accuracy (7-12c) | ||
| (!) | | | ||
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! High accuracy (3.5-7c) | |||
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! Very high accuracy (1-3.5c) | |||
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! Microtemperament (0-1c) | |||
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| [[ennealimmal]] | | [[ennealimmal]] | ||
| [[trinity]] | | [[trinity]] | ||
|} | |||
== 3.5.7 and its extensions == | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+ | |||
! | |||
! Approx. 10 notes | |||
! Approx. 20 notes | |||
! Approx. 30 notes | |||
! Approx. 70 notes | |||
! Over 100 notes | |||
|- | |||
! Exotemperament (18-∞c) | |||
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! Low accuracy (12-18c) | |||
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! Medium accuracy (7-12c) | |||
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! High accuracy (3.5-7c) | |||
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! Very high accuracy (1-3.5c) | |||
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! | ! Microtemperament (0-1c) | ||
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|} | |||
== Other no-2s subgroups == | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+ | |||
! | |||
! Approx. 10 notes | |||
! Approx. 20 notes | |||
! Approx. 30 notes | |||
! Approx. 70 notes | |||
! Over 100 notes | |||
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! | ! Exotemperament (18-∞c) | ||
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! | ! Low accuracy (12-18c) | ||
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! | ! Medium accuracy (7-12c) | ||
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! | ! High accuracy (3.5-7c) | ||
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! | ! Very high accuracy (1-3.5c) | ||
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! | ! Microtemperament (0-1c) | ||
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|} | |||
== No-3s subgroups == | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+ | |||
! | |||
! Approx. 10 notes | |||
! Approx. 20 notes | |||
! Approx. 30 notes | |||
! Approx. 70 notes | |||
! Over 100 notes | |||
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! | ! Exotemperament (18-∞c) | ||
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! | ! Low accuracy (12-18c) | ||
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! | ! Medium accuracy (7-12c) | ||
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| | | [[didacus]], [[orgone]] | ||
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! High accuracy (3.5-7c) | |||
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! Very high accuracy (1-3.5c) | |||
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! | ! Microtemperament (0-1c) | ||
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== 2.3.7 and its extensions == | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+ | |||
! | |||
! Approx. 10 notes | |||
! Approx. 20 notes | |||
! Approx. 30 notes | |||
! Approx. 70 notes | |||
! Over 100 notes | |||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! Exotemperament (18-∞c) | ||
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! | ! Low accuracy (12-18c) | ||
| [[semaphore]] | |||
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! Medium accuracy (7-12c) | |||
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| [[bleu]], [[slendric]] | |||
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! | ! High accuracy (3.5-7c) | ||
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! | ! Very high accuracy (1-3.5c) | ||
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! | ! Microtemperament (0-1c) | ||
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== 2.3.11 and its extensions == | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+ | |||
! | |||
! Approx. 10 notes | |||
! Approx. 20 notes | |||
! Approx. 30 notes | |||
! Approx. 70 notes | |||
! Over 100 notes | |||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! Exotemperament (18-∞c) | ||
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! | ! Low accuracy (12-18c) | ||
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! | ! Medium accuracy (7-12c) | ||
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| [[ | | [[neutral]] (no-5 no-7 [[rastmic]]) | ||
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! 3. | ! High accuracy (3.5-7c) | ||
| [[ | | | ||
| no-5 no-7 [[pythrabian]] | |||
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! | ! Very high accuracy (1-3.5c) | ||
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| [[tribilo]] (no-5 no-7 [[nexus]]) | |||
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! Microtemperament (0-1c) | |||
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| no-5 no-7 [[frameshift]] | |||
|} | |} | ||
(!) | == 2.3.13, 2.3.17, etc == | ||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+ | |||
! | |||
! Approx. 10 notes | |||
! Approx. 20 notes | |||
! Approx. 30 notes | |||
! Approx. 70 notes | |||
! Over 100 notes | |||
|- | |||
! Exotemperament (18-∞c) | |||
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! Low accuracy (12-18c) | |||
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! Medium accuracy (7-12c) | |||
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! High accuracy (3.5-7c) | |||
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! Very high accuracy (1-3.5c) | |||
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! Microtemperament (0-1c) | |||
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|} | |||
== No-7s subgroups == | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+ | |||
! | |||
! Approx. 10 notes | |||
! Approx. 20 notes | |||
! Approx. 30 notes | |||
! Approx. 70 notes | |||
! Over 100 notes | |||
|- | |||
! Exotemperament (18-∞c) | |||
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! Low accuracy (12-18c) | |||
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! Medium accuracy (7-12c) | |||
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| [[mohaha]] | |||
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! High accuracy (3.5-7c) | |||
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| [[sensible]], [[srutal archagall]] | |||
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! Very high accuracy (1-3.5c) | |||
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| [[cata]], [[nestoria]], [[sensipent]] | |||
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! Microtemperament (0-1c) | |||
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|} | |||
== | == No-11s subgroups == | ||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+ | |||
! | |||
! Approx. 10 notes | |||
! Approx. 20 notes | |||
! Approx. 30 notes | |||
! Approx. 70 notes | |||
! Over 100 notes | |||
|- | |||
! Exotemperament (18-∞c) | |||
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! Low accuracy (12-18c) | |||
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! Medium accuracy (7-12c) | |||
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! High accuracy (3.5-7c) | |||
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! Very high accuracy (1-3.5c) | |||
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! Microtemperament (0-1c) | |||
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== Other subgroups == | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+ | |||
! | |||
! Approx. 10 notes | |||
! Approx. 20 notes | |||
! Approx. 30 notes | |||
! Approx. 70 notes | |||
! Over 100 notes | |||
|- | |||
! Exotemperament (18-∞c) | |||
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! Low accuracy (12-18c) | |||
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! Medium accuracy (7-12c) | |||
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! High accuracy (3.5-7c) | |||
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! Very high accuracy (1-3.5c) | |||
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! Microtemperament (0-1c) | |||
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