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A '''sonhar tuning'''{{idiosyncratic}} (''pronounced "sonyar"'') is any scale or [[temperament]] which uses or approximates the JI [[subgroup]] 5.11.13.31.
A '''sonhar tuning'''{{idiosyncratic}} (''pronounced "sonyar"'') is any scale or [[temperament]] which uses or approximates the JI [[subgroup]] 5.11.13.31.


A '''wijzerplaat scale'''{{idiosyncratic}} (''pronounced "why, ser as in deserve, plat as in platypus"'') is any scale which is built by combining a [[MOS scale]] generated by 5\31, a MOS scale generated by 11\31, and a MOS scale generated by 13\31. (''Where n\31 is n steps of [[31edo]] or another 31-tone [[equal tuning]]''.)
A '''wijzerplaat scale'''{{idiosyncratic}} (''pronounced "why, ser as in deserve, plat as in platypus"'') is any scale which is built by combining a scale generated by 5\31, a scale generated by 11\31, and a scale generated by 13\31. (''Where n\31 is n steps of [[31edo]] or another 31-tone [[equal tuning]]''.) Often but not always the three scales are [[MOS scale]]s.


== History and etymology ==
== History and etymology ==
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| <small>The scale of all [[rational interval]]s with 5, 11, 13 or 31 in the denominator</small>
| <small>The scale of all [[rational interval]]s with 5, 11, 13 or 31 in the denominator</small>
| [[22165afdo]]
| [[22165afdo]]
| <small>7/6, 6/5, 5/4, 4/3 (weak), 7/5, 3/2 (weak), 5/3, 7/4, 2/1, 7/3, 5/2, 3/1 (weak), 7/2, 4/1, 5/1, 6/1 (weak), 7/1</small>
| <small>7/6, 6/5, 5/4, 4/3 (weak), 7/5, 3/2 (very weak), 5/3, 7/4, 2/1, 7/3, 5/2, 3/1 (very weak), 7/2, 4/1, 5/1, 6/1 (very weak), 7/1</small>
|-
|-
| 5&11&13&31ifdo <br>(''Breuddwyd inverse'')  
| 5&11&13&31ifdo <br>(''Breuddwyd inverse'') <br><br>'''Main article: [[Breuddwyd inverse]]'''
| Just
| Just
| 2/1
| 2/1
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| <small>The scale of all [[rational interval]]s with 5, 11, 13 or 31, or any of their octave multiples (e.g. 10, 22, 26, 62 or 20, 44, 52, 124 or so on) in the numerator</small>
| <small>The scale of all [[rational interval]]s with 5, 11, 13 or 31, or any of their octave multiples (e.g. 10, 22, 26, 62 or 20, 44, 52, 124 or so on) in the numerator</small>
| [[22165ifdo]]
| [[22165ifdo]]
| <small>7/6, 6/5, 5/4, 4/3 (weak), 7/5, 3/2 (weak), 5/3, 7/4, 2/1, 7/3, 5/2, 3/1 (weak), 7/2, 4/1, 5/1, 6/1 (weak), 7/1</small>
| <small>7/6, 6/5, 5/4, 4/3 (very weak), 7/5, 3/2 (weak), 5/3, 7/4, 2/1, 7/3, 5/2, 3/1 (weak), 7/2, 4/1, 5/1, 6/1 (weak), 7/1</small>
|-
|-
| 5&11&13&31edo <br>(''Breuddwyd-2'')
| 5&11&13&31edo <br>(''Breuddwyd-2'')
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| <small>7/6, 4/3, 3/2 (weak), 5/3, 7/4, 7/2, 5/1, 7/1 (weak)</small>
| <small>7/6, 4/3, 3/2 (weak), 5/3, 7/4, 7/2, 5/1, 7/1 (weak)</small>
|-
|-
| 5&11&13&31ed6 <br>(''Breuddwyd-6'')
| 5&11&13&31ed6 <br>(''Breuddwyd-6'') <br><br>'''Main article: [[Breuddwyd6]]'''
| Tempered
| Tempered
| [[6/1]]
| [[6/1]]
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|+ <small>Tempered sonhar tunings</small>
|+ <small>Tempered sonhar tunings</small>
|-
|-
! <small>Systematic name <br>(& idiosyncratic common name)</small>
! Systematic name <br>(& idiosyncratic common name)
! <small>Equave</small>
! Equave
! <small>Equal temp mapping</small>
! Equal temp mapping
! <sup>Reduced mapping</sup>
! Reduced mapping
! <small>TE generator tunings (¢)</small>
! TE generator tunings (¢)
! <small>TE step tunings (¢)</small>
! TE step tunings (¢)
! <small>TE tuning map (¢)</small>
! TE tuning map (¢)
! <small>TE mistunings (¢)</small>
! TE mistunings (¢)
! <small>Complexity, <br>adjusted error, <br>TE error</small>
! Complexity, <br>adjusted error, <br>TE error</small>
! <small>Unison vectors</small>
! Unison vectors
! <small>Recommended ETs</small>
! Recommended ETs <br>(warts in brackets)
! <small>(x31 notation)</small>
|-
|-
| <small>c2 & c37 <br>(''Sonhar A'')</small>
| <small>c2 & c37 <br>(''Sonhar A'')</small>
| <small>[[5/1]]</small>
| <small>5/1</small>
| <small>5,11,13,31 <br>[<2,3,3,4] <br> <37,55,59,79]></small>
| <small>5,11,13,31 <br>[<2,3,3,4] <br> <37,55,59,79]></small>
| <small>5,11,13,31 <br>[<1,2,-2,-3] <br> <0,-1,7,10]></small>  
| <small>5,11,13,31 <br>[<1,2,-2,-3] <br> <0,-1,7,10]></small>  
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| <small>[-2,1,3,-2>, [-5,3,-1,1>, [-7,4,2,-1>, [-3,2,-4,3></small>
| <small>[-2,1,3,-2>, [-5,3,-1,1>, [-7,4,2,-1>, [-3,2,-4,3></small>
| <small>[[39ed5]], [[37ed5]], [[41ed5]], [[35ed5]], [[76ed5]], [[78ed5]], [[74ed5]], [[43ed5]](fk)</small>
| <small>[[39ed5]], [[37ed5]], [[41ed5]], [[35ed5]], [[76ed5]], [[78ed5]], [[74ed5]], [[43ed5]](fk)</small>
| <small>c39, c37, c41, c35, c76, c78, c74, c43fk</small>
|}
|}


== Wijzerplaat scales ==
== Wijzerplaat scales ==
All of these scales are octave-repeating subsets of [[31edo]]. They are tempered by definition. Sometimes multiple MOSes may generate the same tone, which is why when you combine an x-tone, y-tone and z-tone MOS, the total number of tones/octave may still be less than (x+y+z).
All of these scales are tempered by definition. Sometimes multiple scales may generate the same tone, which is why when one combines an x-tone, y-tone and z-tone scale, the total number of tones/octave may still be less than (x+y+z).
 
This list is not exhaustive. There are many other possible wijzerplaat scales.  


The scale names are [[Template:Idiosyncratic|idiosyncratic]].
This list is not exhaustive. There are many other possible wijzerplaat scales.


{| class="wikitable sortable mw-collapsible"}}
{| class="wikitable sortable mw-collapsible"}}
|+ The wijzerplaat scales
|+ The wijzerplaat scales
|-
|-
! Name
! Systematic name <br>(& idiosyncratic common name)
! Parent tuning used
! Parent tuning used
! Tones per period used
! Tones per period used
! Scale pattern
! Scale pattern
! Tones generated by 5\31, 11\31, 13\31
! Tones generated by 5\31, 11\31, 13\31 (mos or no?)
! 5\31 generators up:down, <br>11\31 up:down, <br>13\31 up:down
! 5\31 generators up:down, <br>11\31 up:down, <br>13\31 up:down
! 7 integer limit intervals approximated within 15¢
! 7 integer limit intervals approximated within 15¢
|-
|-
| PolyMOS <5\31(up2down2), 11\31(up0down2), 13\31(up1down1)>
| <small>PolyMOS <5\31(u2d0), <11\31(u0d4), 13\31(u1d3)> </small><br>(''Oclock'')  <br><br>'''Main article: [[Oclock]]'''
| [[31edo]]
| [[31edo]]
| [[:Category:9-tone scales|9 tones]] per 31\31 [[Category:9-tone scales]]
| [[:Category:9-tone scales|9 tones]] per 31\31 [[Category:9-tone scales]]
| 5 4 1 3 5 2 1 5 5
| 5 4 1 3 5 2 3 6 2
| 5, 3, 3
| 3(mos), 5(mos), 5(mos)
| 2:2, <br>0:2, <br>1:1
| 2:0, <br>0:4, <br>1:3
| <small>5/4, 4/3, 3/2, 2/1, 5/2, 3/1, 4/1, 5/1, 6/1</small>
| <small>5/4, 4/3, 3/2, 5/3, 2/1, 5/2, 3/1, 4/1, 5/1, 6/1</small>
|}
|}


[[Category:Scales by family]]
[[Category:Scales by family]]

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A breuddwyd scale[idiosyncratic term] (pronounced "braid wood") is any polymicrotonal scale which combines four scales, the first scale with 5 tones per equave, the second with 11, the third with 13 and the fourth with 31.

A sonhar tuning[idiosyncratic term] (pronounced "sonyar") is any scale or temperament which uses or approximates the JI subgroup 5.11.13.31.

A wijzerplaat scale[idiosyncratic term] (pronounced "why, ser as in deserve, plat as in platypus") is any scale which is built by combining a scale generated by 5\31, a scale generated by 11\31, and a scale generated by 13\31. (Where n\31 is n steps of 31edo or another 31-tone equal tuning.) Often but not always the three scales are MOS scales.

History and etymology

These three categories of scales were devised by Budjarn Lambeth in January 2025, after he had a dream featuring a disc inscribed with numbers - 31 in the middle, and 5, 11 and 13 around the outside.

Intending to make music based on these numbers, Lambeth started brainstorming scales and recorded what he found as the breuddwyd, sonhar and wijzerplaat scales.

"Breuddwyd" is Welsh for "dream". "Sonhar" is Brazilian Portugese for "dream". "Wijzerplaat" is Dutch for "clock face".

A recreation of the disc from the dream.

Breuddwyd scales

This list is not exhaustive. There are many other possible breuddwyd scales.

The breuddwyd scales
Systematic name
(& idiosyncratic common name)
Just or tempered? Equave Tones per equave Tones per octave Definition Additional valid definitions Is a subset of 7 integer limit intervals approximated within 15¢
5&11&13&31afdo
(Breuddwyd arithmetic)
Just 2/1 57 tones 57/octave Polymicrotonal scale of 5afdo, 11afdo, 13afdo and 31afdo The scale of all rational intervals with 5, 11, 13 or 31 in the denominator 22165afdo 7/6, 6/5, 5/4, 4/3 (weak), 7/5, 3/2 (very weak), 5/3, 7/4, 2/1, 7/3, 5/2, 3/1 (very weak), 7/2, 4/1, 5/1, 6/1 (very weak), 7/1
5&11&13&31ifdo
(Breuddwyd inverse)

Main article: Breuddwyd inverse
Just 2/1 57 tones 57/octave Polymicrotonal scale of 5ifdo, 11ifdo, 13ifdo and 31ifdo The scale of all rational intervals with 5, 11, 13 or 31, or any of their octave multiples (e.g. 10, 22, 26, 62 or 20, 44, 52, 124 or so on) in the numerator 22165ifdo 7/6, 6/5, 5/4, 4/3 (very weak), 7/5, 3/2 (weak), 5/3, 7/4, 2/1, 7/3, 5/2, 3/1 (weak), 7/2, 4/1, 5/1, 6/1 (weak), 7/1
5&11&13&31edo
(Breuddwyd-2)
Tempered 2/1 57 tones 57/octave Polymicrotonal scale of 5edo, 11edo, 13edo and 31edo 22165edo 7/6, 6/5, 5/4, 4/3, 7/5, 3/2, 5/3, 7/4, 2/1, 7/3, 5/2, 3/1, 7/2, 4/1, 5/1, 6/1, 7/1
5&11&13&31edt
(Breuddwyd-3)
Tempered 3/1 57 tones ~36/octave Polymicrotonal scale of 5edt, 11edt, 13edt and 31edt 22165edt 7/6, 6/5, 5/4, 4/3, 7/5, 3/2, 5/3, 7/4, 2/1, 7/3, 5/2, 3/1, 7/2, 4/1, 5/1, 6/1, 7/1
5&11&13&31ed4
(Breuddwyd-4)
Tempered 4/1 57 tones ~29/octave Polymicrotonal scale of 5ed4, 11ed4, 13ed4 and 31ed4 22165ed4 6/5, 5/4, 4/3 (weak), 3/2, 5/3, 7/4, 7/3, 3/1 (weak), 7/2, 4/1, 5/1, 6/1, 7/1
5&11&13&31ed5
(Breuddwyd-5)
Tempered 5/1 57 tones ~25/octave Polymicrotonal scale of 5ed5, 11ed5, 13ed5 and 31ed5 22165ed5 7/6, 4/3, 3/2 (weak), 5/3, 7/4, 7/2, 5/1, 7/1 (weak)
5&11&13&31ed6
(Breuddwyd-6)

Main article: Breuddwyd6
Tempered 6/1 57 tones ~19/octave Polymicrotonal scale of 5ed6, 11ed6, 13ed6 and 31ed6 22165ed6 7/6, 6/5, 5/4, 4/3, 7/5, 3/2, 5/3, 7/4, 2/1, 5/2, 3/1, 4/1, 5/1, 6/1, 7/1
5&11&13&31ed14/3
(Breuddwyd-14/3)
Tempered 14/3 57 tones ~26/octave Polymicrotonal scale of 5ed14/3, 11ed14/3, 13ed14/3 and 31ed14/3 22165ed14/3 7/6, 4/3 (weak), 7/5, 3/2 (weak), 5/3 (weak), 7/4, 2/1, 7/3, 5/2, 3/1 (weak), 7/2, 4/1, 6/1, 7/1

Sonhar tunings

This list is not exhaustive. There are many other possible sonhar scales.

Just

Just sonhar tunings
Systematic name
(& idiosyncratic common name)
Just or tempered? Equave Tones per equave Tones per octave Definition Additional valid definitions Is a subset of 7 integer limit intervals approximated within 15¢
CPS(2of5,11,13,31)
(Breuddwyd hexany)
Just 2/1 6 tones 6/octave The hexany generated by 5/1, 11/1, 13/1 and 31/1 The octave-repeating harmonic series subset 220:260:286:310:341:403:440 220afdo (allowing rotations) 7/6, 6/5, 7/5, 5/3, 2/1, 7/3, 4/1

Tempered

You can find all necessary information to add a temperament to this table by using x31eq.com.

Tempered sonhar tunings
Systematic name
(& idiosyncratic common name)
Equave Equal temp mapping Reduced mapping TE generator tunings (¢) TE step tunings (¢) TE tuning map (¢) TE mistunings (¢) Complexity,
adjusted error,
TE error
Unison vectors Recommended ETs
(warts in brackets)
c2 & c37
(Sonhar A)
5/1 5,11,13,31
[<2,3,3,4]
<37,55,59,79]>
5,11,13,31
[<1,2,-2,-3]
<0,-1,7,10]>
2789.3304, 1431.2645 40.49033, 73.19864 2789.330, 4147.396, 4440.191, 5944.654 3.017, -3.922, -0.337, -0.382 0.454182,
4.281341,
0.864185
[-2,1,3,-2>, [-5,3,-1,1>, [-7,4,2,-1>, [-3,2,-4,3> 39ed5, 37ed5, 41ed5, 35ed5, 76ed5, 78ed5, 74ed5, 43ed5(fk)

Wijzerplaat scales

All of these scales are tempered by definition. Sometimes multiple scales may generate the same tone, which is why when one combines an x-tone, y-tone and z-tone scale, the total number of tones/octave may still be less than (x+y+z).

This list is not exhaustive. There are many other possible wijzerplaat scales.

The wijzerplaat scales
Systematic name
(& idiosyncratic common name)
Parent tuning used Tones per period used Scale pattern Tones generated by 5\31, 11\31, 13\31 (mos or no?) 5\31 generators up:down,
11\31 up:down,
13\31 up:down
7 integer limit intervals approximated within 15¢
PolyMOS <5\31(u2d0), <11\31(u0d4), 13\31(u1d3)>
(Oclock)

Main article: Oclock
31edo 9 tones per 31\31 5 4 1 3 5 2 3 6 2 3(mos), 5(mos), 5(mos) 2:0,
0:4,
1:3
5/4, 4/3, 3/2, 5/3, 2/1, 5/2, 3/1, 4/1, 5/1, 6/1