17/9

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Interval information
Ratio 17/9
Subgroup monzo 3.17 [-2 1
Size in cents 1101.045¢
Name large septendecimal major seventh
Color name 17o8, iso octave
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{d8}^{17} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 7.25739
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 8.17493
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 23

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In 17-limit just intonation, 17/9 is the septendecimal diminished octave or the septendecimal major seventh, depending on how one views it. It measures about 1101¢. It is the mediant between 15/8 and 2/1. Its inversion is 18/17, the "small septendecimal semitone".

Terminology and notation

There exists a disagreement in different conceptualization systems on whether 17/9 should be a major seventh or a diminished octave. The diminished octave view corresponds to Functional Just System, with the formal comma 4131/4096 separating it from 4096/2187, the Pythagorean diminished octave. The major seventh view corresponds to Helmholtz-Ellis notation, with the formal comma 2187/2176 separating it from 243/128, the Pythagorean major seventh.

In practice, the interval category may, arguably, vary by context. One solution for the JI user who uses expanded circle-of-fifths notation is to prepare a Pythagorean comma accidental so that the interval can be notated in either category.

Approximation

Edo approximations for 17/9 (1101.05 ¢)
≤ 80edo, relative error ≤ 10%
Edo Step size Cents (¢) Absolute error (¢) Relative error (%)
11 10\11 1090.91 -10.14 -9.29
12 11\12 1100.00 -1.05 -1.05
13 12\13 1107.69 +6.65 +7.20
24 22\24 1100.00 -1.05 -2.09
25 23\25 1104.00 +2.95 +6.16
36 33\36 1100.00 -1.05 -3.14
37 34\37 1102.70 +1.66 +5.11
48 44\48 1100.00 -1.05 -4.18
49 45\49 1102.04 +1.00 +4.06
60 55\60 1100.00 -1.05 -5.23
61 56\61 1101.64 +0.59 +3.02
72 66\72 1100.00 -1.05 -6.27
73 67\73 1101.37 +0.32 +1.97

See also