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Algebraic generator: [[Algebraic number|positive root]] of ''x''<sup>2</sup> + 16''x'' - 31, or √95 - 8.
Algebraic generator: [[Algebraic number|positive root]] of ''x''<sup>2</sup> + 16''x'' - 31, or √95 - 8.


Vals: {{Val list| 41, 46, 87 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 41, 46, 87 }}


Badness: 0.023093
Badness: 0.023093
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Algebraic generator: Gatetone, positive root of 4''x''<sup>6</sup> - 7''x'' - 1. Recurrence converges slowly.
Algebraic generator: Gatetone, positive root of 4''x''<sup>6</sup> - 7''x'' - 1. Recurrence converges slowly.


Vals: {{Val list| 41, 46, 87 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 41, 46, 87 }}


Badness: 0.018448
Badness: 0.018448
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: Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 18/17
: Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 18/17


Vals: {{Val list| 41, 46, 87, 220dg, 307dgg }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 41, 46, 87, 220dg, 307dgg }}


Badness: 0.016743
Badness: 0.016743
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POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.639
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.639


Vals: {{Val list| 5, 41f, 46, 133ff }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 5, 41f, 46, 133ff }}


Badness: 0.033986
Badness: 0.033986
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POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.728
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.728


Vals: {{Val list| 41e, 46 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 41e, 46 }}


Badness: 0.054294
Badness: 0.054294
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POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.782
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.782


Vals: {{Val list| 41ef, 46 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 41ef, 46 }}


Badness: 0.035836
Badness: 0.035836
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POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.145
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.145


Vals: {{Val list| 36ce, 41 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 36ce, 41 }}


Badness: 0.044937
Badness: 0.044937
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POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.089
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.089


Vals: {{Val list| 36ce, 41 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 36ce, 41 }}


Badness: 0.032284
Badness: 0.032284
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: Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 5
: Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 5


Vals: {{Val list| 36e, 41, 77, 118, 159, 277d }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 36e, 41, 77, 118, 159, 277d }}


Badness: 0.026648
Badness: 0.026648
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POTE generator: ~8/7 = 233.890
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 233.890


Vals: {{Val list| 36e, 41, 77, 118 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 36e, 41, 77, 118 }}


Badness: 0.028444
Badness: 0.028444
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POTE generator: ~8/7 = 227.373
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 227.373


Vals: {{Val list| 16, 21, 37b }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 16, 21, 37b }}


Badness: 0.049500
Badness: 0.049500
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POTE generator: ~8/7 = 227.230
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 227.230


Vals: {{Val list| 16, 21, 37b }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 16, 21, 37b }}


Badness: 0.032664
Badness: 0.032664
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POTE generator: ~8/7 = 229.535
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 229.535


Vals: {{Val list| 5, 16e, 21, 47c, 68bcce }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 5, 16e, 21, 47c, 68bcce }}


Badness: 0.062683
Badness: 0.062683
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POTE generator: ~8/7 = 229.059
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 229.059


{{Val list|legend=1| 5, 16e, 21, 68bccef }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 5, 16e, 21, 68bccef }}


Badness: 0.047071
Badness: 0.047071
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POTE generator: ~8/7 = 226.428
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 226.428


Vals: {{Val list| 5c, 11, 16 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 5c, 11, 16 }}


Badness: 0.069703
Badness: 0.069703
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Algebraic generator: Secor59
Algebraic generator: Secor59


Vals: {{Val list| 10, 21e, 31, 41, 72, 247c, 319bcde, 391bcde, 463bccde }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 10, 21e, 31, 41, 72, 247c, 319bcde, 391bcde, 463bccde }}


Badness: 0.010684
Badness: 0.010684
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POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.747
POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.747


Vals: {{Val list| 10, 21e, 31, 41, 72f, 113f, 185cff }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 10, 21e, 31, 41, 72f, 113f, 185cff }}


Badness: 0.018669
Badness: 0.018669
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POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.574
POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.574


Vals: {{Val list| 31, 72, 103, 175f }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 31, 72, 103, 175f }}


Badness: 0.015715
Badness: 0.015715
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POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.585
POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.585


Vals: {{Val list| 31, 72, 103, 175f }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 31, 72, 103, 175f }}


Badness: 0.012537
Badness: 0.012537
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POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.739
POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.739


Vals: {{Val list| 31f, 41, 72, 185cf, 257cff }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 31f, 41, 72, 185cf, 257cff }}


Badness: 0.017012
Badness: 0.017012
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POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.624
POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.624


Vals: {{Val list| 10, 62, 72 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 10, 62, 72 }}


Badness: 0.024622
Badness: 0.024622
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POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.628
POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.628


Vals: {{Val list| 10, 62, 72 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 10, 62, 72 }}


Badness: 0.016130
Badness: 0.016130
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POTE generator: ~27/26 = 58.288
POTE generator: ~27/26 = 58.288


Vals: {{Val list| 41, 62, 103, 247c, 350bcde }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 41, 62, 103, 247c, 350bcde }}


Badness: 0.025589
Badness: 0.025589
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POTE generator: ~27/26 = 58.261
POTE generator: ~27/26 = 58.261


Vals: {{Val list| 41, 62, 103 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 41, 62, 103 }}


Badness: 0.022535
Badness: 0.022535
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POTE generator: ~16/13 = 361.121
POTE generator: ~16/13 = 361.121


Vals: {{Val list| 103, 113, 216c }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 103, 113, 216c }}


Badness: 0.033198
Badness: 0.033198
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POTE generator: ~16/13 = 361.123
POTE generator: ~16/13 = 361.123


Vals: {{Val list| 103, 113, 216c }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 103, 113, 216c }}


Badness: 0.024705
Badness: 0.024705
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POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.277
POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.277


Vals: {{Val list| 10e, 21, 31 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 10e, 21, 31 }}


Badness: 0.032946
Badness: 0.032946
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POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.268
POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.268


Vals: {{Val list| 10e, 21, 31 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 10e, 21, 31 }}


Badness: 0.029452
Badness: 0.029452
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POTE generator: ~33/32 = 58.408
POTE generator: ~33/32 = 58.408


Vals: {{Val list| 20, 21, 41, 144e, 185cee, 226cee }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 20, 21, 41, 144e, 185cee, 226cee }}


Badness: 0.059232
Badness: 0.059232
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POTE generator: ~33/32 = 58.430
POTE generator: ~33/32 = 58.430


Vals: {{Val list| 20, 21, 41, 144eff, 185ceeff }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 20, 21, 41, 144eff, 185ceeff }}


Badness: 0.043151
Badness: 0.043151
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POTE generator: ~11/8 = 541.668
POTE generator: ~11/8 = 541.668


Vals: {{Val list| 11, 20, 31, 82e, 113e, 144ee }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 11, 20, 31, 82e, 113e, 144ee }}


Badness: 0.042687
Badness: 0.042687
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POTE generator: ~320/243 = 483.276
POTE generator: ~320/243 = 483.276


Vals: {{Val list| 72, 77, 149, 221e, 293de }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 72, 77, 149, 221e, 293de }}


Badness: 0.028467
Badness: 0.028467
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POTE generator: ~120/91 = 483.256
POTE generator: ~120/91 = 483.256


Vals: {{Val list| 72, 77, 149, 221ef }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 72, 77, 149, 221ef }}


Badness: 0.021900
Badness: 0.021900
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POTE generator: ~45/34 = 483.261
POTE generator: ~45/34 = 483.261


Vals: {{Val list| 72, 77, 149, 221ef }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 72, 77, 149, 221ef }}


Badness: 0.015701
Badness: 0.015701
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: Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 9/7
: Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 9/7


Vals: {{Val list| 26, 46, 72, 118, 190 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 26, 46, 72, 118, 190 }}


Badness: 0.015479
Badness: 0.015479
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Scales: [[Unidec26]]
Scales: [[Unidec26]]


=== Ekadash ===
==== Ekadash ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


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POTE generator: ~10/9 = 183.187
POTE generator: ~10/9 = 183.187


Vals: {{Val list| 26f, 46f, 72, 118, 190, 262df, 452cdef }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 26f, 46f, 72, 118, 190, 262df, 452cdef }}


Badness: 0.020381
Badness: 0.020381
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Scales: [[Unidec26]]
Scales: [[Unidec26]]


=== Hendec ===
==== Hendec ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


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POTE generator: ~10/9 = 183.198
POTE generator: ~10/9 = 183.198


Vals: {{Val list| 26, 46, 72, 190ff }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 26, 46, 72, 190ff }}


Badness: 0.017707
Badness: 0.017707
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Scales: [[Unidec26]]
Scales: [[Unidec26]]


==== 17-limit ====
===== 17-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17


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POTE generator: ~10/9 = 183.196
POTE generator: ~10/9 = 183.196


Vals: {{Val list| 26, 46, 72, 190ffg }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 26, 46, 72, 190ffg }}


Badness: 0.011676
Badness: 0.011676
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POTE generator: ~6/5 = 321.847
POTE generator: ~6/5 = 321.847


Vals: {{Val list| 11c, 15, 26, 41, 179cde, 220cde, 261ccdee }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 11c, 15, 26, 41, 179cde, 220cde, 261ccdee }}


Badness: 0.025659
Badness: 0.025659
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POTE generator: ~6/5 = 321.994
POTE generator: ~6/5 = 321.994


Vals: {{Val list| 11cf, 15, 26, 41 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 11cf, 15, 26, 41 }}


Badness: 0.021478
Badness: 0.021478
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POTE generator: ~15/11 = 541.729
POTE generator: ~15/11 = 541.729


Vals: {{Val list| 20ce, 31, 113c, 144c, 175c, 381bccdee }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 20ce, 31, 113c, 144c, 175c, 381bccdee }}


Badness: 0.053459
Badness: 0.053459
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POTE generator: ~15/11 = 541.606
POTE generator: ~15/11 = 541.606


Vals: {{Val list| 20ce, 31, 51ce, 82cf, 113cf, 144cf }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 20ce, 31, 51ce, 82cf, 113cf, 144cf }}


Badness: 0.047015
Badness: 0.047015
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POTE generator: ~27/22 = 358.5713
POTE generator: ~27/22 = 358.5713


Vals: {{Val list| 10, 77, 87, 164 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 10, 77, 87, 164 }}


Badness: 0.054655
Badness: 0.054655
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POTE generator: ~16/13 = 358.5739
POTE generator: ~16/13 = 358.5739


Vals: {{Val list| 10, 77, 87, 164 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 10, 77, 87, 164 }}


Badness: 0.028187
Badness: 0.028187
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POTE generator: ~27/25 = 137.990
POTE generator: ~27/25 = 137.990


Vals: {{Val list| 26, 61, 87, 200, 287d, 487cdd }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 26, 61, 87, 200, 287d, 487cdd }}


Badness: 0.057307
Badness: 0.057307
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POTE generator: ~13/12 = 137.990
POTE generator: ~13/12 = 137.990


Vals: {{Val list| 26, 61, 87, 200, 487cdd }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 26, 61, 87, 200, 487cdd }}


Badness: 0.028393
Badness: 0.028393


== Tritriple ==
== Tritriple ==
Subgroup: 2.3.5
: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Tritriple]].''
 
[[Comma list]]: {{monzo| 31 20 -27 }}
 
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 -11 -7 }}, {{val| 0 27 20 }}]
 
[[POTE generator]]: ~864/625 = 559.332
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 15, 88, 103, 118, 959, 1077 }}
 
[[Badness]]: 0.283570


=== 7-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7


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POTE generator: ~242/175 = 559.293
POTE generator: ~242/175 = 559.293


Vals: {{Val list| 15, 88, 103, 118, 339de }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 15, 88, 103, 118, 339de }}


Badness: 0.035350
Badness: 0.035350
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POTE generator: ~847/625 = 524.210
POTE generator: ~847/625 = 524.210


Vals: {{Val list| 16, 55be, 71, 87, 103, 190 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 16, 55be, 71, 87, 103, 190 }}


Badness: 0.040785
Badness: 0.040785
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POTE generator: ~65/48 = 524.209
POTE generator: ~65/48 = 524.209


Vals: {{Val list| 16, 55be, 71, 87, 103, 190 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 16, 55be, 71, 87, 103, 190 }}


Badness: 0.021636
Badness: 0.021636

Revision as of 05:57, 8 January 2022

The 2.3.7 subgroup comma for the gamelismic clan is the gamelisma, 1029/1024, with monzo [-10 1 0 3. For any member of the clan, for the rank three gamelan temperament itself, and for the rank two 2.3.7 temperament slendric, this means three 8/7 intervals give a fifth, 3/2. In fact, we find that 3/2 = (8/7)3 × 1029/1024. From this it follows that gamelismic temperaments tend to flatten both the fifth and the 7/4, or if they do not, the other of the pair must be flattened even more. 36edo is a good tuning for gamelismic itself, though if the full 7-limit is desired, 72edo, 77edo or 118edo might be preferred.

To the gamelisma itself we need to add the comma which appears next on the modified normal comma list for the full 7-limit. The second comma on the list for mothra is 81/80, for rodan 245/243, for guiron 32805/32768, for gorgo 36/35, and for gidorah 256/245. These all use 8/7 as a generator, though in the case of gidorah that's the same as 6/5. Miracle adds 33075/32768 and uses the secor, half an 8/7, as generator. Lemba adds 525/512 to the list, and has a half-octave period. Valentine adds 6144/6125 with a generator of 21/20 and superkleismic adds 875/864 with a generator of 6/5. Unidec adds 4375/4374, and has a generator of 10/9 with a half-octave period. Hemithirds adds 65625/65536 with a generator half of a major third. Finally, tritikleismic adds 15625/15552 and has a generator of 6/5 with a 1/3 octave period.

Full 7-limit temperaments discussed elsewhere are:

The rest are considered below.

No-five subgroup extensions of slendric include radon, the 2.3.7.11 extension that may be viewed as no-five rodan, and baladic, the 2.3.7.13.17 extension, considered below.

Slendric

Subgroup: 2.3.7

Comma list: 1029/1024

Sval mapping: [1 1 3], 0 3 -1]]

Mapping generators: ~2, ~8/7

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 3], 0 3 0 -1]]

Gencom: [2 8/7; 1029/1024]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 233.688

Template:Val list

Scales: slendric5, slendric6, slendric11, slendric16

Baladic

Baladic is a 2.3.7.13.17 subgroup temperament that attempts to approximate the Maqam Sikah Baladi scale. 36edo is an excellent baladic tuning.

Subgroup: 2.3.7.13.17

Comma list: 169/168, 273/272, 289/288

Sval mapping: [2 2 6 7 7], 0 3 -1 1 3]]

Mapping generators: ~17/12, ~8/7

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 233.6155

Template:Val list

Rodan

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 245/243, 1029/1024

Mapping: [1 1 -1 3], 0 3 17 -1]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 3 17 -1 20 -10 -50 ]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.417

Minimax tuning:

[[1 0 0 0, [5/3 0 1/6 -1/6, [25/9 0 17/18 -17/18, [25/9 0 -1/18 1/18]
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 7/5

Algebraic generator: larger root of 20x2 - 36x + 15, or (9 + √6)/10.

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.037112

Scales: Rodan26opt, Rodan31opt, Rodan41opt

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 245/243, 385/384, 441/440

Mapping: [1 1 -1 3 6], 0 3 17 -1 -13]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.459

Minimax tuning:

[[1 0 0 0 0, [31/19 6/19 0 0 -3/19, [49/19 34/19 0 0 -17/19, [53/19 -2/19 0 0 1/19, [62/19 -26/19 0 0 13/19]
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 11/9

Algebraic generator: positive root of x2 + 16x - 31, or √95 - 8.

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.023093

Scales: Rodan26opt, Rodan31opt, Rodan41opt

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 196/195, 245/243, 352/351, 364/363

Mapping: [1 1 -1 3 6 8], 0 3 17 -1 -13 -22]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.482

Minimax tuning:

  • 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~8/7 = [3/14 1/14 0 0 0 -1/28
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 13/9

Algebraic generator: Gatetone, positive root of 4x6 - 7x - 1. Recurrence converges slowly.

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.018448

Scales: Rodan26opt, Rodan31opt, Rodan41opt

17-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 154/153, 196/195, 245/243, 256/255, 273/272

Mapping: [1 1 -1 3 6 8 8], 0 3 17 -1 -13 -22 -20]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.524

Minimax tuning:

  • 17-odd-limit: ~8/7 = [3/13 1/13 0 0 0 0 -1/26
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 18/17

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.016743

Scales: Rodan26opt, Rodan31opt, Rodan41opt

Aerodactyl

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 91/90, 245/243, 385/384, 441/440

Mapping: [1 1 -1 3 6 -1], 0 3 17 -1 -13 24]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.639

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.033986

Aerodino

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 176/175, 245/243, 1029/1024

Mapping: [1 1 -1 3 -3], 0 3 17 -1 33]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.728

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.054294

13-limit

Comma list: 91/90, 176/175, 245/243, 847/845

Mapping: [1 1 -1 3 -3 -1], 0 3 17 -1 33 24]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.782

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.035836

Varan

Comma list: 100/99, 245/243, 1029/1024

Mapping: [1 1 -1 3 -2], 0 3 17 -1 28]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.145

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.044937

13-limit

Comma list: 100/99, 105/104, 245/243, 352/351

Mapping: [1 1 -1 3 -2 0], 0 3 17 -1 28 19]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 234.089

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.032284

Guiron

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 1029/1024, 10976/10935

Mapping: [1 1 7 3], 0 3 -24 -1]]

Mapping generators: ~2, ~8/7

Wedgie⟨⟨ 3 -24 -1 -45 -10 65 ]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 233.930

Minimax tuning:

[[1 0 0 0, [15/8 0 -1/8 0, [0 0 1 0, [65/24 0 1/24 0]
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 5

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.047544

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 385/384, 441/440, 10976/10935

Mapping: [1 1 7 3 -2], 0 3 -24 -1 28]]

Mapping generators: ~2, ~8/7

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 233.931

Minimax tuning:

[[1 0 0 0 0, [15/8 0 -1/8 0 0, [0 0 1 0 0, [65/24 0 1/24 0 0, [37/6 0 -7/6 0 0]
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 5

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.026648

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 196/195, 352/351, 385/384, 729/728

Mapping: [1 1 7 3 -2 0], 0 3 -24 -1 28 19]]

Mapping generators: ~2, ~8/7

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 233.890

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.028444

Gorgo

In the 5-limit, gorgo tempers out the laconic comma, 2187/2000, which is the difference between three 10/9's and a 3/2. Although a higher-error temperament, it does pop up enough in the low-numbered EDOs to be useful, most notably in 16EDO and 21EDO. The only 7-limit extension that makes any sense to use is to add the gamelisma to the comma list.

5-limit (laconic)

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma list: 2187/2000

Mapping: [1 1 1], 0 3 7]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 3 7 4 ]]

POTE generator: ~10/9 = 227.426

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.161799

7-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 36/35, 1029/1024

Mapping: [1 1 1 3], 0 3 7 -1]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 3 7 -1 4 -10 -22 ]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 228.334

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.060663

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 36/35, 45/44, 1029/1024

Mapping: [1 1 1 3 1], 0 3 7 -1 13]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 227.373

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.049500

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 27/26, 36/35, 45/44, 507/500

Mapping: [1 1 1 3 1 2], 0 3 7 -1 13 9]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 227.230

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.032664

Spartan

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 36/35, 56/55, 1029/1024

Mapping: [1 1 1 3 5], 0 3 7 -1 -8]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 229.535

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.062683

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 27/26, 36/35, 56/55, 507/500

Mapping: [1 1 1 3 5 2], 0 3 7 -1 -8 9]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 229.059

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.047071

Music

Gidorah

5-limit (university)

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma list: 144/125

Mapping: [1 1 2], 0 3 2]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 235.4416

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.101806

7-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 21/20, 144/125

Mapping: [1 1 2 3], 0 3 2 -1]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 3 2 -1 -4 -10 -8 ]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 230.762

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.062262

Oncle

For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see High badness temperaments #Oncle.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 1029/1024, 2430/2401

Mapping: [1 1 6 3], 0 3 -19 -1]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 232.498

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.088384

Archaeotherium

For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see High badness temperaments #Archaeotherium.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 405/392, 1029/1024

Mapping: [1 1 5 3], 0 3 -14 -1]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 230.258

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.146306

Clyndro

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 135/128, 360/343

Mapping: [1 1 4 3], 0 3 -9 -1]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 3 -9 -1 -21 -10 23 ]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 226.469

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.159179

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 33/32, 45/44, 352/343

Mapping: [1 1 4 3 4], 0 3 -9 -1 -3]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 226.428

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.069703

Miracle

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 225/224, 1029/1024

Mapping: [1 1 3 3], 0 6 -7 -2]]

Mapping generator: 2, ~15/14

Wedgie⟨⟨ 6 -7 -2 -25 -20 15 ]]

POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.675

Minimax tuning:

[[1 0 0 0, [25/13 6/13 -6/13 0, [25/13 -7/13 7/13 0, [35/13 -2/13 2/13 0]
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 6/5
[[1 0 0 0, [25/19 12/19 -6/19 0, [50/19 -14/19 7/19 0, [55/19 -4/19 2/19 0]
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 10/9

Tuning ranges:

  • 7-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~15/14 = [114.286, 120.000] (2\21 to 1\10)
  • 9-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~15/14 = [116.129, 120.000] (3\31 to 1\10)
  • 7- and 9-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~15/14 = [115.587, 116.993]
  • 7-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~15/14 = [115.587, 116.993]
  • 9-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~15/14 = [116.129, 116.993]

Algebraic generator: Secor59, positive root of 15x6 - 8x4 - 12

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.016742

Scales: Miracle 10, Blackjack

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 385/384

Mapping: [1 1 3 3 2], 0 6 -7 -2 15]]

POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.633

Minimax tuning:

[[1 0 0 0 0, [25/19 12/19 -6/19 0 0, [50/19 -14/19 7/19 0 0, [55/19 -4/19 2/19 0 0, [53/19 30/19 -15/19 0 0]
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 10/9

Tuning ranges:

  • 11-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~15/14 = [116.129, 117.073] (3\31 to 4\41)
  • 11-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~15/14 = [115.587, 116.993]
  • 11-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~15/14 = [116.129, 116.993]

Algebraic generator: Secor59

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.010684

Scales: Miracle 10, Blackjack

Miraculous

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 105/104, 144/143, 196/195, 243/242

Mapping: [1 1 3 3 2 4], 0 6 -7 -2 15 -3]]

POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.747

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.018669

Scales: Miracle 10, Blackjack

Benediction

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 351/350, 385/384

Mapping: [1 1 3 3 2 7], 0 6 -7 -2 15 -34]]

POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.574

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.015715

17-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 273/272, 351/350, 375/374

Mapping: [1 1 3 3 2 7 7], 0 6 -7 -2 15 -34 -30]]

POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.585

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.012537

Manna

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 325/324, 385/384

Mapping: [1 1 3 3 2 0], 0 6 -7 -2 15 38]]

POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.739

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.017012

Semimiracle

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 169/168, 225/224, 243/242, 385/384

Mapping: [2 2 6 6 4 7], 0 6 -7 -2 15 2]]

POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.624

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.024622

17-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 169/168, 221/220, 225/224, 243/242, 273/272

Mapping: [2 2 6 6 4 7 7], 0 6 -7 -2 15 2 6]]

POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.628

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.016130

Hemisecordite

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 385/384, 847/845

Mapping: [1 1 3 3 2 2], 0 12 -14 -4 30 35]]

POTE generator: ~27/26 = 58.288

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.025589

17-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 273/272, 385/384, 847/845

Mapping: [1 1 3 3 2 2 2], 0 12 -14 -4 30 35 43]]

POTE generator: ~27/26 = 58.261

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.022535

Phicordial

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 385/384, 2200/2197

Mapping: [1 7 -4 1 17 4], 0 -18 21 6 -45 -1]]

POTE generator: ~16/13 = 361.121

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.033198

17-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 225/224, 243/242, 273/272, 441/440, 2200/2197

Mapping: [1 7 -4 1 17 4 8], 0 -18 21 6 -45 -1 -13]]

POTE generator: ~16/13 = 361.123

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.024705

Revelation

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 99/98, 176/175, 1029/1024

Mapping: [1 1 3 3 5], 0 6 -7 -2 -16]]

POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.277

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.032946

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 66/65, 99/98, 105/104, 512/507

Mapping: [1 1 3 3 5 4], 0 6 -7 -2 -16 -3]]

POTE generator: ~15/14 = 116.268

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.029452

Hemimiracle

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 225/224, 245/242, 1029/1024

Mapping: [1 1 3 3 4], 0 12 -14 -4 -11]]

POTE generator: ~33/32 = 58.408

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.059232

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 105/104, 196/195, 245/242, 512/507

Mapping: [1 1 3 3 4 4], 0 12 -14 -4 -11 -6]]

POTE generator: ~33/32 = 58.430

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.043151

Oracle

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 121/120, 225/224, 1029/1024

Mapping: [1 7 -4 1 3], 0 -12 14 4 1]]

POTE generator: ~11/8 = 541.668

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.042687

Hemiseven

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 1029/1024, 19683/19600

Mapping: [1 4 14 2], 0 -6 -29 2]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 6 29 -2 32 -20 -86 ]]

POTE generator: ~320/243 = 483.267

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.056557

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 385/384, 441/440, 19683/19600

Mapping: [1 4 14 2 -5], 0 -6 -29 2 21]]

POTE generator: ~320/243 = 483.276

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.028467

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 351/350, 385/384, 441/440, 676/675

Mapping: [1 4 14 2 -5 19], 0 -6 -29 2 21 -38]]

POTE generator: ~120/91 = 483.256

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.021900

17-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 273/272, 351/350, 385/384, 441/440, 676/675

Mapping: [1 4 14 2 -5 19 21], 0 -6 -29 2 21 -38 -42]]

POTE generator: ~45/34 = 483.261

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.015701

Unidec

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma list: 31381059609/31250000000

Mapping: [2 5 8], 0 -6 -11]]

Mapping generators: ~177147/125000, ~10/9

POTE generator: ~10/9 = 183.047

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.082423

Scales: Unidec26

7-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 1029/1024, 4375/4374

Mapping: [2 5 8 5], 0 -6 -11 2]]

Mapping generators: ~1225/864, ~10/9

Wedgie⟨⟨ 12 22 -4 7 -40 -71 ]]

POTE generator: ~10/9 = 183.161

Minimax tuning:

[[1 0 0 0, [47/26 0 6/13 -6/13, [71/26 0 11/13 -11/13, [71/26 0 -2/13 2/13]
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 7/5
[[1 0 0 0, [10/7 6/7 0 -3/7, [57/28 11/7 0 -11/14, [20/7 -2/7 0 1/7]
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 9/7

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.038393

Scales: Unidec26

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 385/384, 441/440, 4375/4374

Mapping: [2 5 8 5 6], 0 -6 -11 2 3]]

Mapping generators: ~99/70, ~10/9

Minimax tuning:

[[1 0 0 0 0, [10/7 6/7 0 -3/7 0, [57/28 11/7 0 -11/14 0, [20/7 -2/7 0 1/7 0, [99/28 -3/7 0 3/14 0]
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 9/7

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.015479

Scales: Unidec26

Ekadash

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 385/384, 441/440, 625/624, 729/728

Mapping: [2 5 8 5 6 19], 0 -6 -11 2 3 -38]]

Mapping generators: ~99/70, ~10/9

POTE generator: ~10/9 = 183.187

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.020381

Scales: Unidec26

Hendec

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 169/168, 325/324, 364/363, 385/384

Mapping: [2 5 8 5 6 8], 0 -6 -11 2 3 -2]]

Mapping generators: ~91/64, ~10/9

POTE generator: ~10/9 = 183.198

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.017707

Scales: Unidec26

17-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 169/168, 221/220, 273/272, 325/324, 364/363

Mapping: [2 5 8 5 6 8 10], 0 -6 -11 2 3 -2 -6]]

Mapping generators: ~17/12, ~10/9

POTE generator: ~10/9 = 183.196

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.011676

Scales: Unidec26

Superkleismic

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 875/864, 1029/1024

Mapping: [1 4 5 2], 0 -9 -10 3]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 9 10 -3 -5 -30 -35 ]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 321.930

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.047932

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 100/99, 245/242, 385/384

Mapping: [1 4 5 2 4], 0 -9 -10 3 -2]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 321.847

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.025659

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 100/99, 105/104, 144/143, 245/243

Mapping: [1 4 5 2 4 8], 0 -9 -10 3 -2 -16]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 321.994

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.021478

Lagaca

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 1029/1024, 11529602/11390625

Mapping: [2 5 2 5], 0 -9 13 3]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 18 -26 -6 -83 -60 59 ]]

POTE generator: ~15/14 = 122.027

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.144345

Necromanteion

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 1029/1024, 5103/5000

Mapping: [1 7 10 1], 0 -12 -17 4]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 12 17 -4 -1 -40 -57 ]]

POTE generator: ~48/35 = 541.779

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.117680

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 176/175, 243/242, 1029/1024

Mapping: [1 7 10 1 17], 0 -12 -17 4 -30]]

POTE generator: ~15/11 = 541.729

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.053459

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 144/143, 176/175, 243/242, 343/338

Mapping: [1 7 10 1 17 1], 0 -12 -17 4 -30 6]]

POTE generator: ~15/11 = 541.606

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.047015

Restles

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 1029/1024, 153664/151875

Mapping: [1 -2 8 4], 0 12 -19 -4]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 12 -19 -4 -58 -40 44 ]]

POTE generator: ~315/256 = 358.5485

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.108011

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 385/384, 441/440, 153664/151875

Mapping: [1 -2 8 4 -7], 0 12 -19 -4 35]]

POTE generator: ~27/22 = 358.5713

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.054655

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 196/195, 352/351, 385/384, 676/675

Mapping: [1 -2 8 4 -7 4], 0 12 -19 -4 35 -1]]

POTE generator: ~16/13 = 358.5739

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.028187

Quartemka

For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see High badness temperaments #Quartemka.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 1029/1024, 1250000/1240029

Mapping: [1 4 6 2], 0 -21 -32 7]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 21 32 -7 2 -70 -106 ]]

POTE generator: ~27/25 = 138.006

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.152287

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 385/384, 441/440, 800000/793881

Mapping: [1 4 6 2 3], 0 -21 -32 7 4]]

POTE generator: ~27/25 = 137.990

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.057307

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 325/324, 364/363, 385/384, 2200/2197

Mapping: [1 4 6 2 3 6], 0 -21 -32 7 4 -20]]

POTE generator: ~13/12 = 137.990

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.028393

Tritriple

For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see High badness temperaments #Tritriple.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 1029/1024, 1959552/1953125

Mapping: [1 -11 -7 7], 0 27 20 -9]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 27 20 -9 -31 -90 -77 ]]

POTE generator: ~864/625 = 559.295

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.118640

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 385/384, 441/440, 43923/43750

Mapping: [1 -11 -7 7 -4], 0 27 20 -9 16]]

POTE generator: ~242/175 = 559.293

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.035350

Widefourth

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 1029/1024, 48828125/48771072

Mapping: [1 16 8 -2], 0 -33 -13 11]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 33 13 -11 -56 -110 -62 ]]

POTE generator: ~3125/2304 = 524.210

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.154117

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 385/384, 441/440, 234375/234256

Mapping: [1 16 8 -2 17], 0 -33 -13 11 -31]]

POTE generator: ~847/625 = 524.210

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.040785

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 385/384, 441/440, 625/624, 847/845

Mapping: [1 16 8 -2 17 12], 0 -33 -13 11 -31 -19]]

POTE generator: ~65/48 = 524.209

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.021636