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The 5-limit parent comma for the '''porcupine family''' is [[250/243]], the maximal diesis or porcupine comma. Its [[monzo]] is {{monzo| 1 -5 3 }}, and flipping that yields {{multival| 3 5 1 }} for the [[wedgie]]. This tells us the [[generator]] is a minor whole tone, the [[10/9]] interval, and that three of these add up to a fourth, with two more giving the minor sixth. In fact, (10/9)<sup>3</sup> = 4/3 × 250/243, and (10/9)<sup>5</sup> = 8/5 × (250/243)<sup>2</sup>. [[22edo|3\22]] is a very recommendable generator, and MOS of 7, 8 and 15 notes make for some nice scale possibilities.
The 5-limit parent comma for the '''porcupine family''' is [[250/243]], the maximal diesis or porcupine comma. Its [[monzo]] is {{monzo| 1 -5 3 }}, and flipping that yields {{multival| 3 5 1 }} for the [[wedgie]]. This tells us the [[generator]] is a minor whole tone, the [[10/9]] interval, and that three of these add up to a fourth, with two more giving the minor sixth. In fact, (10/9)<sup>3</sup> = 4/3 × 250/243, and (10/9)<sup>5</sup> = 8/5 × (250/243)<sup>2</sup>. [[22edo|3\22]] is a very recommendable generator, and MOS of 7, 8 and 15 notes make for some nice scale possibilities.
The second comma of the [[Normal lists #Normal interval list|normal comma list]] defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at. That means
* [[64/63]], the archytas comma, for [[#Septimal porcupine|septimal porcupine]],
* [[36/35]], the septimal quarter tone, for [[#Hystrix|hystrix]],
* [[50/49]], the jubilisma, for [[#Hedgehog|hedgehog]], and
* [[49/48]], the slendro diesis, for [[#Nautilus|nautilus]].
All these 7-limit extensions notably share the same 2.3.5.11 subgroup, ''porkypine''.
Temperaments discussed elsewhere include [[opossum]] and [[Dicot family #Jamesbond|jamesbond]].


== Porcupine ==
== Porcupine ==
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* 5-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~10/9 = [157.821, 166.015]
* 5-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~10/9 = [157.821, 166.015]


{{Val list|legend=1| 7, 15, 22, 95c, 117bc, 139bc, 161bc, 183bc }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 7, 15, 22, 95c }}


[[Badness]]: 0.030778
[[Badness]]: 0.030778


=== Extensions ===
=== Porkypine ===
The second comma of the [[Normal lists #Normal interval list|normal comma list]] defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at. That means
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11
* [[64/63]], the archytas comma, for [[#Septimal porcupine|septimal porcupine]],
 
* [[36/35]], the septimal quarter tone, for [[#Hystrix|hystrix]],
Comma list: 55/54, 100/99
* [[50/49]], the jubilisma, for [[#Hedgehog|hedgehog]], and
 
* [[49/48]], the slendro diesis, for [[#Nautilus|nautilus]].
Sval mapping: [{{val| 1 2 3 4 }}, {{val| 0 -3 -5 -4 }}]
 
Gencom mapping: [{{val| 1 2 3 0 4 }}, {{val| 0 -3 -5 0 -4 }}]
 
Gencom: [2 10/9; 55/54, 100/99]  
 
POTE generator: ~11/10 = 164.0777


Temperaments discussed elsewhere include [[opossum]] and [[Dicot family #Jamesbond|jamesbond]].
Vals: {{val list| 7, 15, 22, 37, 73ce, 95ce }}


== Septimal porcupine ==
== Septimal porcupine ==
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* 7- and 9-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~10/9 = [160.000, 163.636]
* 7- and 9-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~10/9 = [160.000, 163.636]


{{Val list|legend=1| 7, 15, 22, 59, 81bd, 140bbd }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 7, 15, 22, 59, 81bd }}


[[Badness]]: 0.041057
[[Badness]]: 0.041057
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[[POTE generator]]: ~21/20 = 82.505
[[POTE generator]]: ~21/20 = 82.505


{{Val list|legend=1| 15, 29, 44d, 59d, 73cd, 102cd }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 14c, 15, 29, 44d, 59d, 73cd, 102cd }}


[[Badness]]: 0.057420
[[Badness]]: 0.057420
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POTE generator: ~21/20 = 82.530
POTE generator: ~21/20 = 82.530


Vals: {{val list| 15, 29, 44d, 59df, 73cde, 102cde }}
Vals: {{val list| 14cf, 15, 29, 44d, 59df, 73cde, 102cde }}


Badness: 0.022285
Badness: 0.022285