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The head of the '''sycamore family''' is [[5-limit]] sycamore, which tempers out (25/24)<sup>6</sup>/(5/4) = {{monzo| -16 -6 11 }} = 48828125/47775744. The dual of the [[monzo]] is the [[wedgie]], {{multival| 11 6 -16 }}, which tells us that six classic chromatic semitone [[generator]]s give 5/4 (and hence five 6/5) and eleven give 3/2. [[94edo|94EDO]] supports sycamore, and 5\94 is recommendable as a generator. It can be described as the 19&amp;94 temperament, and uses a decidedly flat version of the chromatic semitone as a generator. [[MOS]] of 18 or 19 notes to the octave give enough room for sycamore's triads, but 37 notes can be tried by the adventurous.
The head of the '''sycamore family''' is [[5-limit]] sycamore, which tempers out (25/24)<sup>6</sup>/(5/4) = {{monzo| -16 -6 11 }} = 48828125/47775744. The dual of the [[monzo]] is the [[wedgie]], {{multival| 11 6 -16 }}, which tells us that six classic chromatic semitone [[generator]]s give 5/4 (and hence five 6/5) and eleven give 3/2. [[94edo]] supports sycamore, and 5\94 is recommendable as a generator. It can be described as the 19&amp;94 temperament, and uses a decidedly flat version of the chromatic semitone as a generator. [[MOS]] of 18 or 19 notes to the octave give enough room for sycamore's triads, but 37 notes can be tried by the adventurous.


Another possible tuning uses a generator which is a pure 3/2 divided into 11 parts, and this makes the generator chain of sycamore exactly the same as [[Carlos Beta]]. In fact, Carlos Beta is characterized by Carlos as taking five steps to reach 6/5 and six to reach 5/4, which means it tempers out the sycamore comma. It can be described as the generator chain of sycamore, or sycamore can be called Carlos Beta with octaves.
Another possible tuning uses a generator which is a pure 3/2 divided into 11 parts, and this makes the generator chain of sycamore exactly the same as [[Carlos Beta]]. In fact, Carlos Beta is characterized by Carlos as taking five steps to reach 6/5 and six to reach 5/4, which means it tempers out the sycamore comma. It can be described as the generator chain of sycamore, or sycamore can be called Carlos Beta with octaves.
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{{Val list|legend=1| 18, 19, 56, 75, 94, 207c, 301c }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 18, 19, 56, 75, 94, 207c, 301c }}


[[Badness]]: 0.2100
[[Badness]]: 0.209966


= 7-limit =
= Septimal sycamore =
The second element of the [[Normal lists #Normal interval list|normal comma list]] for septimal sycamore is [[875/864]], the keema, and it also tempers out [[686/675]], the senga, and [[3136/3125]], hemimean. It may also be called the 19&amp;56 temperament. This may also be used as the name for the temperament obtained by adding [[100/99]] to sycamore's commas, giving unidecimal sycamore, where 10 generator steps reaches 16/11, 11 reach 3/2, and 15 give 7/4, adding a considerable dose of 11-limit harmonies to the 19-note MOS. [[75edo]] is an excellent tuning for 7-limit sycamore, and [[56edo]] for the 11-limit version.
The second element of the [[Normal lists #Normal interval list|normal comma list]] for septimal sycamore is [[875/864]], the keema, and it also tempers out [[686/675]], the senga, and [[3136/3125]], hemimean. It may also be called the 19&amp;56 temperament. This may also be used as the name for the temperament obtained by adding [[100/99]] to sycamore's commas, giving unidecimal sycamore, where 10 generator steps reaches 16/11, 11 reach 3/2, and 15 give 7/4, adding a considerable dose of 11-limit harmonies to the 19-note MOS. [[75edo|75EDO]] is an excellent tuning for 7-limit sycamore, and [[56edo|56EDO]] for the 11-limit version.


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
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{{Val list|legend=1| 18, 19, 56, 75d }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 18, 19, 56, 75d }}


[[Badness]]: 0.0620
[[Badness]]: 0.062018


== 11-limit ==
== 11-limit ==
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


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POTE generator: ~25/24 = 64.268
POTE generator: ~25/24 = 64.268


{{Val list|legend=1| 18, 19, 37, 56 }}
Vals: {{Val list| 18, 19, 37, 56 }}


Badness: 0.0559
Badness: 0.055940


== 13-limit ==
== 13-limit ==
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


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Mapping: [{{val| 1 1 2 2 4 3 }}, {{val| 0 11 6 15 -10 13 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 1 1 2 2 4 3 }}, {{val| 0 11 6 15 -10 13 }}]


POTE generator: ~26/25 = 64.296
POTE generator: ~25/24 = 64.296


{{Val list|legend=1| 18, 19, 37, 56 }}
Vals: {{Val list| 18, 19, 37, 56 }}


Badness: 0.0343
Badness: 0.034295


= Betic =
= Betic =
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{{Multival|legend=1| 11 6 34 -16 23 62 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 11 6 34 -16 23 62 }}


[[POTE generator]]: ~28/27 = 63.776
[[POTE generator]]: ~28/27 = 63.741


{{Val list|legend=1| 19, 75, 94, 113, 320cc, 433ccd }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 19, 75, 94, 113, 320cc, 433ccd }}
[[Badness]]: 0.069748


== 11-limit ==
== 11-limit ==
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


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POTE generator: ~28/27 = 63.776
POTE generator: ~28/27 = 63.776


{{Val list|legend=1| 19, 75, 94, 207c }}
Vals: {{Val list| 19, 75, 94, 207c }}
 
Badness: 0.056874
 
== 13-limit ==
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 1875/1859
 
Mapping: [{{val| 1 1 2 1 5 2 }}, {{val| 0 11 6 34 -29 32 }}]
 
POTE generator: ~28/27 = 63.766
 
Vals: {{Val list| 19, 75, 94, 113, 207c }}
 
Badness: 0.032475


[[Category:Regular temperament theory]]
[[Category:Regular temperament theory]]