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'''15/14''' is a [[superparticular]] ratio with a numerator which is the fifth [[Wikipedia:Triangular_number|triangular number]].  
'''15/14''' is a [[superparticular]] ratio with a numerator which is the fifth [[Wikipedia:Triangular number|triangular number]]. It may be found as the interval between many [[7-limit]] ratios, including:
 
It may be found as the interval between many [[7-limit]] ratios, including:
 
* [[16/15]] and [[8/7]]
* [[16/15]] and [[8/7]]
* [[14/13]] and [[15/13]]
* [[14/13]] and [[15/13]]
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* [[7/4]] and [[15/8]]
* [[7/4]] and [[15/8]]


Although called ''septimal diatonic semitone'' for its proximity (and conflation in systems such as septimal [[meantone]]) with the classic diatonic semitone [[16/15]], 15/14 is a ''[[Wikipedia:chromatic semitone|chromatic semitone]]'' in both [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation]] and [[Functional Just System]] because it is [[5120/5103]] larger than the apotome [[2187/2048]].
In combination with [[19/17]] it forms a good approximation of [[golden meantone]]. The untempered combination of five 19/17 and two 15/14 leads to an interval that is sharp to an octave by the [[mercurial comma]]: <code>((19/17)^5 * (15/14)^2 = (2/1) / (mercurial comma))</code>
 
== Terminology ==


In combination with [[19/17]] it forms a good approximation of [[golden meantone]]. The untempered combination of five 19/17 and two 15/14 leads to an interval that is sharp to an octave by the [[mercurial comma]]: <code>((19/17)^5 * (15/14)^2 = (2/1) / (mercurial comma))</code>
15/14 is traditionally called a ''diatonic semitone'', perhaps for its proximity (and conflation in systems such as septimal [[meantone]]) with the classic diatonic semitone [[16/15]]. However, 15/14 is a ''[[Wikipedia:chromatic semitone|chromatic semitone]]'' in both [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation]] and [[Functional Just System]], viewed as the apotome [[2187/2048]] altered by [[5120/5103]]. [[Marc Sabat]] has taken to call it the ''major chromatic semitone'' in the same material where [[21/20]] is also named as the minor diatonic semitone<ref>[https://marsbat.space/pdfs/crystal-growth.pdf Marc Sabat (2008) Three Crystal Growth Algorithms in 23-limit constrained Harmonic Space]</ref>.
 
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== See also ==
== See also ==
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* [[List of superparticular intervals]]
* [[List of superparticular intervals]]
* [[Gallery of Just Intervals]]
* [[Gallery of Just Intervals]]
* [[Wikipedia:Septimal_diatonic_semitone|Septimal diatonic semitone - Wikipedia]]
* [[Wikipedia: Septimal diatonic semitone]]


[[Category:7-limit]]
[[Category:7-limit]]

Revision as of 14:32, 3 March 2021

Interval information
Ratio 15/14
Factorization 2-1 × 3 × 5 × 7-1
Monzo [-1 1 1 -1
Size in cents 119.4428¢
Name septimal diatonic semitone
Color name ry1, ruyo semitone
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{A1}^{5}_{7} }[/math]
Special properties superparticular,
reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 7.71425
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 7.81378
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 17

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15/14 is a superparticular ratio with a numerator which is the fifth triangular number. It may be found as the interval between many 7-limit ratios, including:

In combination with 19/17 it forms a good approximation of golden meantone. The untempered combination of five 19/17 and two 15/14 leads to an interval that is sharp to an octave by the mercurial comma: ((19/17)^5 * (15/14)^2 = (2/1) / (mercurial comma))

Terminology

15/14 is traditionally called a diatonic semitone, perhaps for its proximity (and conflation in systems such as septimal meantone) with the classic diatonic semitone 16/15. However, 15/14 is a chromatic semitone in both Helmholtz-Ellis notation and Functional Just System, viewed as the apotome 2187/2048 altered by 5120/5103. Marc Sabat has taken to call it the major chromatic semitone in the same material where 21/20 is also named as the minor diatonic semitone[1].

See also