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::: The comma is an essential tempering comma so there should be some essentially tempered chords. We might focus on that. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 06:31, 29 December 2020 (UTC) | ::: The comma is an essential tempering comma so there should be some essentially tempered chords. We might focus on that. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 06:31, 29 December 2020 (UTC) | ||
:::: These are the triads: | |||
::::* 1-17/16-13/11 with steps 17/16-10/9-22/13, and its inversions; | |||
::::* 1-10/9-13/11 with steps 10/9-17/16-22/13, and its inversions; | |||
::::* 1-13/11-24/17 with steps 13/11-6/5-24/17, and its inversions; | |||
::::* 1-6/5-24/17 with steps 6/5-13/11-24/17, and its inversions; | |||
::::* 1-18/17-5/4 with steps 18/17-13/11-8/5, and its inversions; | |||
::::* 1-13/11-5/4 with steps 13/11-18/17-8/5, and its inversions. | |||
:::: There should be numerous tetrads, pentads, etc. which I don't bother to find. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 07:00, 29 December 2020 (UTC) |
Revision as of 07:00, 29 December 2020
Naming
I'm hoping to get seven commas named by the end of the year, and not only do I not see a name for this comma anywhere on this wiki, but I also don't see a name for this comma on the Huygens-Fokker interval list. Perhaps I should come up with a name for it. I hope I'm not sticking my foot in my mouth like I was with 625/624- that was embarrassing. --Aura (talk) 00:41, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- In my opinion the importance of a comma/temperament/whatever should be obvious before we bind much energy in dedicated pages/names/etc. I sometimes have the impression that we are - in part - generating content from nothing here. --Xenwolf (talk) 19:25, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm already looking into what's going on with this comma, and so far I've found that tempering out this comma equates 18/17 with 55/52, 17/13 with 72/55, 24/17 with 55/39, 144/143 with 170/169, 44/39 with 96/85, and perhaps most interestingly for me- 117/64 with 935/512. The reason I find that lattermost instances of equated intervals interesting has more to do with cultural reference- particularly with regards to the Halo series of videogames as the Master Chief- the protagonist of the main series Halo games, is also known as "John-117". I'm still looking into this comma to see if I can find anything else of interest. --Aura (talk) 20:17, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- After further investigation, it seems that by tempering out 936/935, we end up equating 289/288 with 221/220, 256/255 with 352/351, 375/374 with 625/624, 351/350 with 561/560, and- in another interesting twist- 385/384 (the keenanisma) with 273/272 (the tannisma). --Aura (talk) 21:44, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- As for the idea of generating content from nothing, well, that sounds almost like a part of my job description as a pioneer in microtonal music theory- to explore intervals and temperaments where few have explored before, and to find the beauty in intervals that other music theorists have overlooked, ignored, or dismissed. --Aura (talk) 22:39, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- > Perhaps most interestingly for me- 117/64 with 935/512.
- It's nothing special: any interval can be decomposed into a difference of two overtones.
- These are the triads:
- 1-17/16-13/11 with steps 17/16-10/9-22/13, and its inversions;
- 1-10/9-13/11 with steps 10/9-17/16-22/13, and its inversions;
- 1-13/11-24/17 with steps 13/11-6/5-24/17, and its inversions;
- 1-6/5-24/17 with steps 6/5-13/11-24/17, and its inversions;
- 1-18/17-5/4 with steps 18/17-13/11-8/5, and its inversions;
- 1-13/11-5/4 with steps 13/11-18/17-8/5, and its inversions.
- These are the triads: