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The '''olympia''' ([[monzo]]: {{monzo| 17 -5 0 -2 -1 }}, [[ratio]]: 131072/130977), otherwise known as the '''olympic comma''', is an [[11-limit]] (also 2.3.7.11 [[subgroup]]) [[unnoticeable comma]] measuring about 1.26 [[cent]]s. It is the difference between the undecimal quartertone ([[33/32]]) and a stack of two septimal commas ([[64/63]]). Even more interesting is the possible factorization into two [[13-limit]] [[superparticular]] ratios: ([[2080/2079]])([[4096/4095]]). In fact, the olympia is the default interval represented by three [[mina]]s in the Olympian level of [[Sagittal notation]], from which it gets its name.  
The '''olympia''' ([[monzo]]: {{monzo| 17 -5 0 -2 -1 }}, [[ratio]]: 131072/130977), otherwise known as the '''olympic comma''', is an [[unnoticeable comma|unnoticeable]] [[11-limit]] (specifically [[2.3.7.11 subgroup|2.3.7.11-]][[subgroup]]) [[comma]] measuring about 1.26 [[cent]]s. It is the difference between the undecimal quartertone ([[33/32]]) and a stack of two septimal commas (([[64/63]])<sup>2</sup>). Even more interesting is the factorization into two [[13-limit]] [[superparticular ratio]]s: ([[2080/2079]])([[4096/4095]]). These ratios and the olympia itself are the default intervals represented by one, two, and three [[mina]]s in the Olympian level of [[Sagittal notation]], from which it gets its name.  


== Temperaments ==
== Temperaments ==
Tempering out this comma in the full 11-limit results in the rank-4 '''olympic temperament''' , with a very natural 13-limit extension {2080/2079, 4096/4095} (→ [[Rank-4 temperament #Olympic (131072/130977)]]).  
[[Tempering out]] this comma in the full 11-limit results in the rank-4 '''olympic temperament''' , with a very natural 13-limit extension {2080/2079, 4096/4095} (→ [[Rank-4 temperament #Olympic (131072/130977)]]). As its order of 11 is one, any 7-limit temperament can be extended to the 11-limit by tempering out this comma. To make practical sense, however, it requires low complexity and high accuracy of the septimal comma, which is less common.  
 
As its order of 11 is one, any 7-limit temperament can be immediately extended to the 11-limit in theory by tempering out this comma. To make practical sense, however, it requires low complexity and high accuracy of 64/63, which is less common.  


== Etymology ==
== Etymology ==
The olympia was named by [[Flora Canou]] in 2021, referring to the Olympian level of Sagittal notation.  
The olympia was named by [[Flora Canou]] in 2021, referring to the Olympian level of Sagittal notation.  
== See also ==
* [[Unnoticeable comma]]


[[Category:Olympic]]
[[Category:Olympic]]
[[Category:Commas named after musical traditions]]
[[Category:Commas named after musical traditions]]

Revision as of 19:22, 5 February 2026

Interval information
Ratio 131072/130977
Factorization 217 × 3-5 × 7-2 × 11-1
Monzo [17 -5 0 -2 -1
Size in cents 1.25524¢
Names olympia,
olympic comma
Color name salururu unison, s1urr1
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{P1}_{7,7,11} }[/math]
Special properties reduced,
reduced subharmonic
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 33.999
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 34
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 74
Comma size unnoticeable
S-expression S642⋅S65
Open this interval in xen-calc

The olympia (monzo: [17 -5 0 -2 -1, ratio: 131072/130977), otherwise known as the olympic comma, is an unnoticeable 11-limit (specifically 2.3.7.11-subgroup) comma measuring about 1.26 cents. It is the difference between the undecimal quartertone (33/32) and a stack of two septimal commas ((64/63)2). Even more interesting is the factorization into two 13-limit superparticular ratios: (2080/2079)⋅(4096/4095). These ratios and the olympia itself are the default intervals represented by one, two, and three minas in the Olympian level of Sagittal notation, from which it gets its name.

Temperaments

Tempering out this comma in the full 11-limit results in the rank-4 olympic temperament , with a very natural 13-limit extension {2080/2079, 4096/4095} (→ Rank-4 temperament #Olympic (131072/130977)). As its order of 11 is one, any 7-limit temperament can be extended to the 11-limit by tempering out this comma. To make practical sense, however, it requires low complexity and high accuracy of the septimal comma, which is less common.

Etymology

The olympia was named by Flora Canou in 2021, referring to the Olympian level of Sagittal notation.