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The gap remaining to close the octave is another identical fifth (~5/4), giving rise to the temperament's name after this chord.
The gap remaining to close the octave is another identical fifth (~5/4), giving rise to the temperament's name after this chord.


In [[marvel|marvel temperament]], the ~25/16 augmented fifth is tempered together with ~[[14/9]] (tempering out the difference of [[225/224|224/225]]). The resulting intervals are ~5/4, ~5/4, and ~14/9, making the augmented triad a [[9-odd-limit]] essentially tempered chord:
In [[marvel|marvel temperament]], the ~25/16 augmented fifth is tempered together with ~[[14/9]] (tempering out the difference of [[225/224|224/225]]). The resulting intervals are ~5/4, ~5/4, and ~14/9, making the augmented triad a [[9-odd-limit]] essentially tempered chord (→ [[Marvel chords]]).


* ([[Marvel chords|Marvel]]) 1 – 5/4 – 14/9
* (Marvel) 1 – 5/4 – 14/9


In that case, the gap remaining to close the octave is ~[[9/7]], a ''septimal major third''.
In that case, the gap remaining to close the octave is ~[[9/7]], a ''septimal major third''.


Since [[12edo]] is a good tuning of augmented temperament and supports marvel, and the historically prevalent [[quarter-comma meantone]] is a good tuning of marvel, either or both of these essentially-tempered interpretations may be relevant for augmented chords found in common-practice and contemporary music.
Since [[12edo]] is a good tuning of augmented temperament and supports marvel, and the historically prevalent [[quarter-comma meantone]] also supports marvel, either or both of these essentially-tempered interpretations may be relevant for augmented chords found in common-practice and contemporary music.


== In just intonation ==
== In just intonation ==

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The augmented triad is a triad comprising a root, a major third, and an augmented fifth formed by stacking another major third.

In temperaments

In augmented temperament, the ~25/16 augmented fifth is enharmonically equivalent to a minor sixth (~8/5), the difference of 128/125 being tempered out. Since the resulting internal intervals are ~5/4, ~5/4, and ~8/5, the augmented triad in augmented temperament is a 5-odd-limit essentially tempered chord:

  • (Augmented) 1 – 5/4 – 8/5

The gap remaining to close the octave is another identical fifth (~5/4), giving rise to the temperament's name after this chord.

In marvel temperament, the ~25/16 augmented fifth is tempered together with ~14/9 (tempering out the difference of 224/225). The resulting intervals are ~5/4, ~5/4, and ~14/9, making the augmented triad a 9-odd-limit essentially tempered chord (→ Marvel chords).

  • (Marvel) 1 – 5/4 – 14/9

In that case, the gap remaining to close the octave is ~9/7, a septimal major third.

Since 12edo is a good tuning of augmented temperament and supports marvel, and the historically prevalent quarter-comma meantone also supports marvel, either or both of these essentially-tempered interpretations may be relevant for augmented chords found in common-practice and contemporary music.

In just intonation

In the 7-limit:

  • 36:45:56 is the simplest JI tuning of the 7-limit marvel augmented chord.

In the 5-limit:

  • 16:20:25 is found on ♭II+ (1615), ♭III+ (65) ♭VI+ (85), and ♭VII+ (95) in the duodene. Its rotations, 20:25:32 and 25:32:40, represent chords that would be enharmonically equivalent to itself in augmented temperament, substituting a minor sixth and a diminished fourth successively in place of the augmented fifth and major third.

In the 3-limit: