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{{Infobox Interval

| Name = major minthma, major gentle comma, 11/13-kleisma

| Color name = 3u1o1, thulo 1sn,<br>Thulo comma

| Color name = 3u1o1, thulo 1sn, <br>Thulo comma

| Comma = yes

}}

'''352/351''', the '''major minthma''', '''major gentle comma''' or '''11/13-kleisma''', is a [[small comma|small]] [[13-limit]] (also 2.3.11.13 [[subgroup]]) [[comma]] measuring about 4.9{{cent}}. This comma can be described in a number of ways. First, it is the difference between the tridecimal minor third of [[13/11]] and the Pythagorean minor third of [[32/27]], hence the name ''11/13''-kleisma. Second, it is the difference between various tridecimal intervals and their adjacent undecimal intervals such as:

'''352/351''', the '''major minthma''', '''major gentle comma''' or '''11/13-kleisma''' is a [[small comma|small]] [[13-limit]] (also 2.3.11.13 [[subgroup]]) [[comma]] measuring about 4.9{{cent}}. This comma can be described in a number of ways. First, it is the difference between the tridecimal minor third of [[13/11]] and the Pythagorean minor third of [[32/27]], hence the name ''11/13''-kleisma. Second, it is the difference between various tridecimal intervals and their adjacent undecimal intervals such as:

* Between the tridecimal quartertone of [[1053/1024]] and the undecimal quartertone of [[33/32]];

* Between [[16/13]] and [[27/22]]; and

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== History and etymology ==

This comma was known as the ''minthma'' from 2011. In 2022, [[Margo Schulter]] requested it should be changed to ''major''/''greater minthma'' to distinguish it from [[364/363]], which would gain the name ''minor''/''lesser minthma''. The ''major gentle comma'' was also added to this comma in contrast to the ''minor gentle comma'' of 364/363. Both commas were essential to define the [[gentle]] temperament.

This comma was known as the ''minthma'' from 2011. The word ''minthma'' is a contraction of ''minor thirds comma'' into a single word. In 2022, [[Margo Schulter]] requested it should be changed to ''major''/''greater minthma'' to distinguish it from [[364/363]], which would gain the name ''minor''/''lesser minthma''. The ''major gentle comma'' was also added to this comma in contrast to the ''minor gentle comma'' of 364/363. Both commas were essential to define the [[gentle]] temperament.

== See also ==

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 {{Infobox Interval
 | Name = major minthma, major gentle comma, 11/13-kleisma
-| Color name = 3u1o1, thulo 1sn,<br>Thulo comma
+| Color name = 3u1o1, thulo 1sn, <br>Thulo comma
 | Comma = yes
 }}
-'''352/351''', the '''major minthma''', '''major gentle comma''' or '''11/13-kleisma''', is a [[small comma|small]] [[13-limit]] (also 2.3.11.13 [[subgroup]]) [[comma]] measuring about 4.9{{cent}}. This comma can be described in a number of ways. First, it is the difference between the tridecimal minor third of [[13/11]] and the Pythagorean minor third of [[32/27]], hence the name ''11/13''-kleisma. Second, it is the difference between various tridecimal intervals and their adjacent undecimal intervals such as:
+'''352/351''', the '''major minthma''', '''major gentle comma''' or '''11/13-kleisma''' is a [[small comma|small]] [[13-limit]] (also 2.3.11.13 [[subgroup]]) [[comma]] measuring about 4.9{{cent}}. This comma can be described in a number of ways. First, it is the difference between the tridecimal minor third of [[13/11]] and the Pythagorean minor third of [[32/27]], hence the name ''11/13''-kleisma. Second, it is the difference between various tridecimal intervals and their adjacent undecimal intervals such as:
 * Between the tridecimal quartertone of [[1053/1024]] and the undecimal quartertone of [[33/32]];
 * Between [[16/13]] and [[27/22]]; and
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 == History and etymology ==
-This comma was known as the ''minthma'' from 2011. In 2022, [[Margo Schulter]] requested it should be changed to ''major''/''greater minthma'' to distinguish it from [[364/363]], which would gain the name ''minor''/''lesser minthma''. The ''major gentle comma'' was also added to this comma in contrast to the ''minor gentle comma'' of 364/363. Both commas were essential to define the [[gentle]] temperament.
+This comma was known as the ''minthma'' from 2011. The word ''minthma'' is a contraction of ''minor thirds comma'' into a single word. In 2022, [[Margo Schulter]] requested it should be changed to ''major''/''greater minthma'' to distinguish it from [[364/363]], which would gain the name ''minor''/''lesser minthma''. The ''major gentle comma'' was also added to this comma in contrast to the ''minor gentle comma'' of 364/363. Both commas were essential to define the [[gentle]] temperament.
 == See also ==