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| Ratio = 36 893 488 147 419 103 232 / <br>36 472 996 377 170 786 403
| Ratio = 36 893 488 147 419 103 232 / <br>36 472 996 377 170 786 403
| Monzo = 65 -41
| Monzo = 65 -41
| Name = 41-comma, counterpyth comma
| Name = 41-comma, Pythagorean countercomma, countercomp comma
| Color name = Tribisawa 5th, Wa-41
| Color name = Tribisawa 5th, Wa-41
| Comma = yes
| Comma = yes
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The '''41-comma''', '''Pythagorean countercomma''', or '''countercomp comma''' ([[monzo]]: {{monzo| 65 -41 }}), is a [[3-limit]] interval of 19.845 [[cent]]s. It is the amount by which a stack of 41 perfect fifths ([[3/2]]) falls short of 24 [[octave]]s, in other words 2<sup>24</sup>/(3/2)<sup>41</sup>.  
{{monzo|65 -41}}, the '''41-comma''' or '''counterpyth comma''', is an interval of 19.845 [[cent]]s. It is the amount by which 41 fifths ([[3/2]]) fall short of 24 [[octave]]s, in other words 2<sup>24</sup>/(3/2)<sup>41</sup>.  


== Temperaments ==
== Temperaments ==
Tempering out this comma splits the octave into 41 equal parts and maps the harmonic 3 to 24\41. It leads to a number of regular temperaments in the [[counterpyth family]]. For equal divisions ''N'' up to 1230, the comma is tempered out if and only if 41 divides ''N''. Examples are [[41edo|41EDO]], [[164edo|164EDO]], [[205edo|205EDO]], [[246edo|246EDO]], [[328edo|328EDO]] and [[369edo|369EDO]].
Tempering out this comma leads to the [[countercomp]] temperament, which splits the octave into 41 equal parts and maps the harmonic 3 to 24\41. For equal divisions ''N'' up to 1230, the comma is tempered out if and only if 41 divides ''N''. Examples are [[41edo]], [[164edo]], [[205edo]], [[246edo]], [[328edo]] and [[369edo]]. See [[countercomp family]] for a number of rank-2 temperaments where it is tempered out.  
 
=== Counterpyth (41&amp;205) ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma list]]: {{monzo|65 -41}}
 
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 41 65 0 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 }}]
 
Mapping generators: ~531441/524288, ~5
 
[[POTE generator]]: ~5/4 = 386.668
 
{{Val list|legend=1| 41, 123, 164, 205, 369, 574, 779, 2132bc }}
 
[[Badness]]: 0.934310


== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[Small comma]]
* [[Small comma]]
* [[Schismic-counterpyth equivalence continuum]]
* [[Schismic-countercomp equivalence continuum]]


[[Category:Counterpyth]]
[[Category:Countercomp]]

Revision as of 04:51, 22 December 2022

Interval information
Ratio 36 893 488 147 419 103 232 /
36 472 996 377 170 786 403
Factorization 265 × 3-41
Monzo [65 -41
Size in cents 19.84496¢
Names 41-comma,
Pythagorean countercomma,
countercomp comma
Color name Tribisawa 5th, Wa-41
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{6d5} }[/math]
Special properties reduced,
reduced subharmonic
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 129.983
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 130
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 253
Comma size small
Open this interval in xen-calc

The 41-comma, Pythagorean countercomma, or countercomp comma (monzo: [65 -41), is a 3-limit interval of 19.845 cents. It is the amount by which a stack of 41 perfect fifths (3/2) falls short of 24 octaves, in other words 224/(3/2)41.

Temperaments

Tempering out this comma leads to the countercomp temperament, which splits the octave into 41 equal parts and maps the harmonic 3 to 24\41. For equal divisions N up to 1230, the comma is tempered out if and only if 41 divides N. Examples are 41edo, 164edo, 205edo, 246edo, 328edo and 369edo. See countercomp family for a number of rank-2 temperaments where it is tempered out.

See also