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The '''Pythagorean''' or '''ditonic comma''' is the interval with the ratio '''531441/524288''' (= {{Monzo| -19 12 }}). It could also be called the 12-comma as it is the amount by which twelve fifths exceed seven octaves, or in other words (3/2)<sup>12</sup>/2<sup>7</sup> and it also can be written as the ratio between the apotome and the Pythagorean minor second, ([[2187/2048]])/([[256/243]]). In addition, it also equates six [[9/8]] major seconds with an octave.  
The '''Pythagorean''' or '''ditonic comma''' is the interval with the ratio '''531441/524288''' ([[monzo]]: {{monzo| -19 12 }}). It could also be called the 12-comma as it is the amount by which twelve fifths exceed seven octaves, or in other words (3/2)<sup>12</sup>/2<sup>7</sup> and it also can be written as the ratio between the apotome and the Pythagorean minor second, ([[2187/2048]])/([[256/243]]). In addition, it also equates six [[9/8]] major seconds with an octave.  


== Temperament ==
== Temperaments ==
Tempering out this comma leads to the [[Pythagorean family]] of temperaments. For EDOs up to 300, it is tempered out if and only if the EDO is a multiple of 12, and hence for instance by [[12edo]], [[24edo]], [[72edo]] and [[84edo]].
Tempering out this comma in the 5-limit leads to the [[compton]] temperament. For edos up to 300, it is tempered out if and only if the edo is a multiple of 12, and hence for instance by [[12edo]], [[24edo]], [[72edo]] and [[84edo]]. See [[compton family]] for a number of rank-2 temperaments where it is tempered out.  


== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [[Small comma]]
* [[Small comma]]
* [[wikipedia:Pythagorean comma]]
 
[[Category:Compton]]

Revision as of 04:22, 22 December 2022

Interval information
Ratio 531441/524288
Factorization 2-19 × 312
Monzo [-19 12
Size in cents 23.46001¢
Names Pythagorean comma,
ditonic comma
Color name LLw-2, Lalawa comma
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{d}{-2} }[/math]
Special properties reduced,
reduced harmonic
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 38.0196
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 38.0391
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 74
Comma size small
Open this interval in xen-calc
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The Pythagorean or ditonic comma is the interval with the ratio 531441/524288 (monzo: [-19 12). It could also be called the 12-comma as it is the amount by which twelve fifths exceed seven octaves, or in other words (3/2)12/27 and it also can be written as the ratio between the apotome and the Pythagorean minor second, (2187/2048)/(256/243). In addition, it also equates six 9/8 major seconds with an octave.

Temperaments

Tempering out this comma in the 5-limit leads to the compton temperament. For edos up to 300, it is tempered out if and only if the edo is a multiple of 12, and hence for instance by 12edo, 24edo, 72edo and 84edo. See compton family for a number of rank-2 temperaments where it is tempered out.

See also