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'''25/24''', the '''classic''' or '''just chromatic semitone''' (short: '''chroma'''), 70.672 cents, is the [[superparticular]] ratio which marks the difference between the 5-limit seconds, [[16/15]] and [[10/9]], [[27/25]] and [[9/8]], thirds, [[6/5]] and [[5/4]], sixths, [[8/5]] and [[5/3]], and sevenths, [[16/9]] and [[50/27]], and [[9/5]] and [[15/8]] . It is therefore the amount which sharpens or flattens a 5-limit second, third, sixth, or seventh, and when notating 5-limit just intonation it can be associated with the sharp or flat symbol, and along with an additional symbol for the [[81/80]] comma, it can be used for a complete system of [[5-limit]] notation.
'''25/24''', the '''classic''' or '''just chromatic semitone''' (short: '''chroma'''), 70.672{{cent}}, is the [[superparticular]] ratio which marks the difference between the [[5-limit]] seconds, [[16/15]] and [[10/9]], [[27/25]] and [[9/8]], thirds, [[6/5]] and [[5/4]], sixths, [[8/5]] and [[5/3]], and sevenths, [[16/9]] and [[50/27]], and [[9/5]] and [[15/8]] . It is therefore the amount which sharpens or flattens a 5-limit second, third, sixth, or seventh, and when notating 5-limit just intonation it can be associated with the sharp or flat symbol, and along with an additional symbol for the [[81/80]] comma, it can be used for a complete system of [[5-limit]] notation.


==Approximation==
== Approximation ==
25/24 is very accurately approximated by 17edo's 1\17 (70.588¢). In fact, the interval that results from stacking seventeen 25/24 chromatic semitones reduced by an octave is the [[septendecima]], only 1.428¢ in size.
25/24 is very accurately approximated by [[17edo]]'s 1\17 (70.588{{cent}}). In fact, the interval that results from stacking seventeen 25/24 chromatic semitones reduced by an octave is the [[septendecima]], only 1.428{{cent}} in size.


==Temperaments==
== Temperaments ==
If 25/24 is treated as a comma to be tempered out, you remove the distinction between major and minor thirds and get only a single neutral interval in their place as in [[dicot family]], and edos like [[10edo]] or [[17edo]].  
If 25/24 is treated as a comma to be tempered out, you remove the distinction between major and minor thirds and get only a single neutral interval in their place as in [[dicot family]], and edos like [[10edo]] or 17edo.


==See also==
==See also==
* [[36/25]] – its [[fifth complement]]
* [[36/25]] – its [[fifth complement]]
*[[48/25]] – its [[octave complement]]
* [[48/25]] – its [[octave complement]]
*[[Dicot family]], where it is tempered out
* [[Dicot family]], where it is tempered out
*[[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
*[[Medium comma]]
* [[Medium comma]]
*[[List of superparticular intervals]]
* [[List of superparticular intervals]]
*[[Chroma]] – a generalising concept for [[MOS]] scales
* [[Chroma]] – a generalising concept for [[MOS]] scales
*[[2187/2048]] – the Pythagorean chromatic semitone
* [[2187/2048]] – the Pythagorean chromatic semitone


[[Category:5-limit]]
[[Category:5-limit]]
[[Category:Chroma]]
[[Category:Chroma]]
[[Category:Interval ratio]]
[[Category:Semitone]]
[[Category:Semitone]]
[[Category:Third tone]]
[[Category:Third tone]]
[[Category:Superparticular]]
[[Category:Superparticular]]

Revision as of 15:19, 22 March 2022

Interval information
Ratio 25/24
Factorization 2-3 × 3-1 × 52
Monzo [-3 -1 2
Size in cents 70.67243¢
Names classic/just chromatic semitone,
chroma
Color name yy1, yoyo unison
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{A1}^{25} }[/math]
Special properties square superparticular,
reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 9.22882
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 9.28771
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 19

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25/24, the classic or just chromatic semitone (short: chroma), 70.672 ¢, is the superparticular ratio which marks the difference between the 5-limit seconds, 16/15 and 10/9, 27/25 and 9/8, thirds, 6/5 and 5/4, sixths, 8/5 and 5/3, and sevenths, 16/9 and 50/27, and 9/5 and 15/8 . It is therefore the amount which sharpens or flattens a 5-limit second, third, sixth, or seventh, and when notating 5-limit just intonation it can be associated with the sharp or flat symbol, and along with an additional symbol for the 81/80 comma, it can be used for a complete system of 5-limit notation.

Approximation

25/24 is very accurately approximated by 17edo's 1\17 (70.588 ¢). In fact, the interval that results from stacking seventeen 25/24 chromatic semitones reduced by an octave is the septendecima, only 1.428 ¢ in size.

Temperaments

If 25/24 is treated as a comma to be tempered out, you remove the distinction between major and minor thirds and get only a single neutral interval in their place as in dicot family, and edos like 10edo or 17edo.

See also