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Meanwhile, you can enjoy the meantone classification of commas between [[superparticular]] ratios:
== Extending the chain of fifths ==
 
<pre>Grosstone:
 
3/2
      9/8 — major second
4/3
      16/15 — minor second
5/4
      25/24 — sharp
6/5
      36/35 — diesis
7/6
      49/48 — kleisma
8/7
      64/63 — diesis
9/8
      81/80 — unison
10/9
      100/99 — diesis
11/10
      121/120 — kleisma, diesis minus
12/11
      144/143 — unison
13/12
      169/168 — two dieses, kleisma minus
14/13
      196/195 — kleisma, diesis minus
15/14
      225/224 — unison
16/15
 
Meanpop:
 
3/2
      9/8 — major second
4/3
      16/15 — minor second
5/4
      25/24 — sharp
6/5
      36/35 — diesis
7/6
      49/48 — kleisma
8/7
      64/63 — diesis
9/8
      81/80 — unison
10/9
      100/99 — kleisma
11/10
      121/120 — diesis, kleisma minus
12/11
      144/143 — unison
13/12
      169/168 — kleisma
14/13
      196/195 — unison
15/14
      225/224 — unison
16/15</pre>
 
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Standard meantone [[notation]] uses 7 base note letters, plus sharps and flats.
Standard meantone [[notation]] uses 7 base note letters, plus sharps and flats.
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Two dieses or two kleismas cannot be stacked to produce a chromatic semitone. 11–limit and 13–limit notation can [[Meantone vs meanpop|vary]].
Two dieses or two kleismas cannot be stacked to produce a chromatic semitone. 11–limit and 13–limit notation can [[Meantone vs meanpop|vary]].
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'''Y, Z, y and z is placeholder notation and should be replaced with better notation. It should be in ASCII, so that it can be easily written on a keyboard, like # and b are.'''
'''Y, Z, y and z is placeholder notation and should be replaced with better notation. It should be in ASCII, so that it can be easily written on a keyboard, like # and b are.'''


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Extended meantone notation was created as a way to notate [[43edo]] with only a base letter with one symbol.
Extended meantone notation was created as a way to notate [[43edo]] with only a base letter with one symbol.
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== True half-sharps and half-flats ==
== True half-sharps and half-flats ==


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The chain-of-neutral thirds tuning system is not a true "temperament," because it is contorted: the neutral third does not have any JI interval mapping to it in the 7-limit. But, if we go to the 11-limit, and add 121/120 to the kernel, we obtain [[Mohajira]], an exceptionally good 11-limit temperament. The neutral third becomes equal to 11/9, and two of them make 3/2. Furthermore, if you take a minor third and ''flatten'' it by a half-flat, you obtain a good representation of 7/6. Conversely if you take a major third ''sharpen'' it by a half-sharp, you obtain a good representation for 9/7. [[31edo]] is a very good tuning for mohajira.
The chain-of-neutral thirds tuning system is not a true "temperament," because it is contorted: the neutral third does not have any JI interval mapping to it in the 7-limit. But, if we go to the 11-limit, and add 121/120 to the kernel, we obtain [[Mohajira]], an exceptionally good 11-limit temperament. The neutral third becomes equal to 11/9, and two of them make 3/2. Furthermore, if you take a minor third and ''flatten'' it by a half-flat, you obtain a good representation of 7/6. Conversely if you take a major third ''sharpen'' it by a half-sharp, you obtain a good representation for 9/7. [[31edo]] is a very good tuning for mohajira.


Although mohajira may not be a great tuning to reflect the way maqam music is played in practice, which often uses multiple unequal neutral thirds and exhibits significant regional variations, it is a highly interesting regular temperament of its own merit, and deserves further study. -->
Although mohajira may not be a great tuning to reflect the way maqam music is played in practice, which often uses multiple unequal neutral thirds and exhibits significant regional variations, it is a highly interesting regular temperament of its own merit, and deserves further study.




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[[Category:Todo:What should the two semisharps and semiflats be called?]]
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