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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.8328{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.8328{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +1.376 +3.676 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +1.376 +3.676 }}
<!-- * [[CTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.727{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 33, 38, 43, 48, 53, 58 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 33, 38, 43, 48, 53, 58 }}
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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.6144{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.6144{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.503 +1.589 +4.331 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.503 +1.589 +4.331 }}
<!-- * [[CTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.555{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 +0.263 +0.333 +4.510 }}
* [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.636{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.589 +2.045 +4.266 }} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 48, 53, 111, 164d, 275d }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 48, 53, 111, 164d, 275d }}
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* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.6806{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.6806{{c}}
<!-- * CTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.625{{c}}
<!-- * CTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.625{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.700{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 58, 111, 280cd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 58, 111, 280cd }}
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* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.6760{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.6760{{c}}
<!-- * CTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.615{{c}}
<!-- * CTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.615{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.697{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 58, 111, 280cdf }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 58, 111, 280cdf }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1199.2723{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.4039{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.2723{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.4039{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.6837{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.6837{{c}}
<!-- * CTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.638{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.692{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 58, 111 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 58, 111 }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1199.2457{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.3797{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.2457{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.3797{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.6690{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.6690{{c}}
<!-- * CTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.617{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.679{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 58h, 111 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 58h, 111 }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1200.2867{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.5498{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.2867{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.5498{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.4393{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.4393{{c}}
<!-- * CTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.454{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.436{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 48, 53 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 48, 53 }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1200.3416{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.5998{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.3416{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.5998{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.4696{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.4696{{c}}
<!-- * CTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.495{{c}}
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.464{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 48f, 53 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 48f, 53 }}
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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 476.0019{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 476.0019{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +2.052 +1.617 +3.168 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +2.052 +1.617 +3.168 }}
<!-- * [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.991{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 58, 121, 179, 300bd, 479bcdd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 58, 121, 179, 300bd, 479bcdd }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1199.0801{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.6303{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.0801{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.6303{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 476.0088{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 476.0088{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.995{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 58, 121, 179e, 300bdee, 479bcddeee }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 58, 121, 179e, 300bdee, 479bcddeee }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1199.0747{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.6291{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.0747{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.6291{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 476.0113{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 476.0113{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 475.996{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 58, 121, 179ef, 300bdeef }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 58, 121, 179ef, 300bdeef }}
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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 476.4221{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 476.4221{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +3.733 +0.660 +1.908 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +3.733 +0.660 +1.908 }}
<!-- * [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~21/16 = 476.4448{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, …, 63, 68 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, …, 63, 68 }}
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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~80/49 = 837.7471{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~80/49 = 837.7471{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.022 -1.532 +4.691 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.022 -1.532 +4.691 }}
<!-- * [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~80/49 = 837.745{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 33, 43, 53 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 33, 43, 53 }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1199.9444{{c}}, ~13/8 = 837.7178{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9444{{c}}, ~13/8 = 837.7178{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~13/8 = 837.7569{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~13/8 = 837.7569{{c}}
<!-- * CTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~13/8 = 837.758{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 33, 43, 53 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 33, 43, 53 }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1200.0666{{c}}, ~44/27 = 837.9460{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0666{{c}}, ~44/27 = 837.9460{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~44/27 = 837.9000{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~44/27 = 837.9000{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~44/27 = 837.899{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 43e, 53, 116 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 43e, 53, 116 }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1200.1769{{c}}, ~13/8 = 838.0187{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.1769{{c}}, ~13/8 = 838.0187{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~13/8 = 837.8965{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~13/8 = 837.8965{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~13/8 = 837.895{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 43e, 53, 116 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 43e, 53, 116 }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1199.9381{{c}}, ~80/49 = 838.5389{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9381{{c}}, ~80/49 = 838.5389{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~80/49 = 837.5832{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~80/49 = 837.5832{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~80/49 = 837.582{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 43, 53, 96 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 43, 53, 96 }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1200.1048{{c}}, ~13/8 = 837.6710{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.1048{{c}}, ~13/8 = 837.6710{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~13/8 = 837.5964{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~13/8 = 837.5964{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~16/13 = 362.402{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 43, 53, 96 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 43, 53, 96 }}
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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~175/128 = 558.5795{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~175/128 = 558.5795{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.999 +6.584 +3.959 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.999 +6.584 +3.959 }}
<!-- * [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~175/128 = 558.605{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 15, 43, 58 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 15, 43, 58 }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1198.5470{{c}}, ~11/8 = 557.9433{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1198.5470{{c}}, ~11/8 = 557.9433{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 558.5942{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 558.5942{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 558.620{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 43, 58 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 43, 58 }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1198.5083{{c}}, ~11/8 = 557.8942{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1198.5083{{c}}, ~11/8 = 557.8942{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 558.5565{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 558.5565{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 558.589{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 43, 58 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 43, 58 }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1198.8533{{c}}, ~11/8 = 557.9750{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1198.8533{{c}}, ~11/8 = 557.9750{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 558.4979{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 558.4979{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 558.509{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 43, 58, 101e, 159cdef }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 43, 58, 101e, 159cdef }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1198.6460{{c}}, ~11/8 = 557.8736{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1198.6460{{c}}, ~11/8 = 557.8736{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 558.4905{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 558.4905{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 558.504{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 43, 58h, 101eh }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 43, 58h, 101eh }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1198.4488{{c}}, ~11/8 = 557.7999{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1198.4488{{c}}, ~11/8 = 557.7999{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 558.5086{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 558.5086{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 558.522{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 43, 58hi }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 43, 58hi }}
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* WE: ~2 = 1198.5114{{c}}, ~11/8 = 557.8276{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1198.5114{{c}}, ~11/8 = 557.8276{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 558.5079{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 558.5079{{c}}
<!-- * POTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~11/8 = 558.520{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 43, 58hi }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 43, 58hi }}
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* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~8/5 = 815.1546{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~8/5 = 815.1546{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +1.138 -1.468 +3.854 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +1.138 -1.468 +3.854 }}
<!-- * CTE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~8/5 = 815.144{{c}} -->


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 25, 53, 184, 237d }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 25, 53, 184, 237d }}

Revision as of 15:39, 27 October 2025

This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.

The 2.3.7-subgroup comma for the buzzardsmic clan is the buzzardsma, 65536/64827, with monzo [16 -3 0 -4, which implies that the tritave, 3/1, is divided into four intervals each representing a 21/16 subfourth. Tempering out this comma implies a sharpened 7th harmonic, and especially a sharpened ~21/16 generator, which approaches the 480 ¢ fourth of 5edo.

Extensions of buzzard to incorporate prime 5 along its chain of generators (and therefore the full 7-limit) include septimal buzzard (53 & 58), which tempers out 1728/1715 (and 5120/5103); subfourth (58 & 63), which tempers out 10976/10935; and lemongrass (63 & 68), which tempers out 245/243. All are considered below.

Weak extensions include submajor (10 & 43), which tempers out 225/224 and splits 32/21 (the superfifth) in two; and thuja (15 & 43), which tempers out 126/125 and splits 21/8 into three.

Full 7-limit temperaments discussed elsewhere are:

The rest are considered below.

2.3.7 subgroup

Buzzard

Subgroup: 2.3.7

Comma list: 65536/64827

Mapping[1 0 4], 0 4 -3]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.2548 ¢, ~21/16 = 475.5761 ¢
error map: -0.745 +0.350 +1.465]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~21/16 = 475.8328 ¢
error map: 0.000 +1.376 +3.676]

Optimal ET sequence5, 33, 38, 43, 48, 53, 58

Badness (Sintel): 0.824

Strong extensions

Septimal buzzard

Septimal buzzard is not only a naturally motivated extension to 2.3.7 buzzard, but the main extension to vulture of practical interest, finding prime 7 at only 3 generators down so that the generator is interpreted as a sharp ~21/16, though buzzard is powerful as a full 13-limit system in its own right. It is most naturally described as 53 & 58 (though 48edo is an interesting higher-damage tuning of it for some purposes). As one might expect, 111edo (111 = 53 + 58) is a great tuning for it. Mos scales of 5, 8, 13, 18, 23, 28, 33, 38, 43, 48 or 53 notes are available.

Its 13-limit S-expression-based comma list is {S6/S7, S8/S9, S11/S13, S13/S15}, with the structure of its 7-limit implied by the first two equivalences combined with the nontrivial JI equivalence S6 = S8 × S9. Hemifamity leverages it by splitting 36/35 into two syntonic~septimal commas, so buzzard naturally finds an interval between 6/5 and 7/6 which in the 7-limit is 32/27 and in the 13-limit is 13/11. Then the vanishing of the orwellisma implies 49/48, the large septimal diesis, is equated with 36/35, so 49/48 is also split into two so that the system also finds an interval between 7/6 and 8/7 which in the 7-limit is 7/6 inflected down by a comma or 8/7 inflected up by a comma, and in the 13-limit is 15/13, so that it is clear this system naturally wants to be extended to and interpreted in the full 13-limit.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 1728/1715, 5120/5103

Mapping[1 0 -6 4], 0 4 21 -3]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.3061 ¢, ~21/16 = 475.3611 ¢
error map: -0.694 -0.511 +0.432 +2.315]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~21/16 = 475.6144 ¢
error map: 0.000 +0.503 +1.589 +4.331]

Optimal ET sequence5, 48, 53, 111, 164d, 275d

Badness (Sintel): 1.21

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 176/175, 540/539, 5120/5103

Mapping: [1 0 -6 4 -12], 0 4 21 -3 39]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.2516 ¢, ~21/16 = 475.4037 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~21/16 = 475.6806 ¢