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==Theory== | == Theory == | ||
Since 38 = 2*19, it can be thought of as two parallel [[19edo]]s. While the halving of the step size lowers [[consistency]] and leaves it only mediocre in terms of overall [[Relative_errors_of_small_EDOs|relative error]], the fact that the 3rd & 5th harmonics are flat by almost exactly the same amount, while the 11th is double that means there are quite a few near perfect composite ratios, such as the the [[6/5]] it shares with 19edo, plus [[11/9]], [[15/11]] & [[25/22]], (and their inversions) while a single step nears [[55/54]]. This gives several interesting possibilities for unusual near-just chords such as 15:18:22:25:30. It [[tempers out]] the same [[5-limit]] commas as 19edo, namely [[81/80]], [[3125/3072]] and [[15625/15552]]. In the [[7-limit]], we can add [[50/49]], and tempering out 81/80 and 50/49 gives [[injera]] temperament, for which 38 is the [[optimal patent val]]. In the [[11-limit]], we can add 121/120 and 176/175. | Since 38 = 2*19, it can be thought of as two parallel [[19edo]]s. While the halving of the step size lowers [[consistency]] and leaves it only mediocre in terms of overall [[Relative_errors_of_small_EDOs|relative error]], the fact that the 3rd & 5th harmonics are flat by almost exactly the same amount, while the 11th is double that means there are quite a few near perfect composite ratios, such as the the [[6/5]] it shares with 19edo, plus [[11/9]], [[15/11]] & [[25/22]], (and their inversions) while a single step nears [[55/54]]. This gives several interesting possibilities for unusual near-just chords such as 15:18:22:25:30. It [[tempers out]] the same [[5-limit]] commas as 19edo, namely [[81/80]], [[3125/3072]] and [[15625/15552]]. In the [[7-limit]], we can add [[50/49]], and tempering out 81/80 and 50/49 gives [[injera]] temperament, for which 38 is the [[optimal patent val]]. In the [[11-limit]], we can add 121/120 and 176/175. | ||
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== Intervals == | == Intervals == | ||
{| class="wikitable center-1 right-2" | {| class="wikitable center-1 right-2" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Step | ! Step | ||
! Cents | ! Cents | ||
!19-odd-limit ratios, | ! 19-odd-limit ratios,<br />treated as 38df | ||
treated as 38df | |||
! colspan="3" | [[Ups and Downs Notation]]* | ! colspan="3" | [[Ups and Downs Notation]]* | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 0 | | 0 | ||
| 0.0000 | | 0.0000 | ||
| Perfect 1sn | | Perfect 1sn | ||
| P1 | | P1 | ||
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| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 31.5789 | | 31.5789 | ||
| Up 1sn | | Up 1sn | ||
| ^1 | | ^1 | ||
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| 2 | | 2 | ||
| 63.1579 | | 63.1579 | ||
| Aug 1sn, dim 2nd | | Aug 1sn, dim 2nd | ||
| A1, d2 | | A1, d2 | ||
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| 3 | | 3 | ||
| 94.7368 | | 94.7368 | ||
|[[20/19]], [[19/18]], [[18/17]], [[17/16]] | | [[20/19]], [[19/18]], [[18/17]], [[17/16]] | ||
| Upaug 1sn, downminor 2nd | | Upaug 1sn, downminor 2nd | ||
| ^A1, vm2 | | ^A1, vm2 | ||
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| 4 | | 4 | ||
| 126.3157 | | 126.3157 | ||
|[[16/15]], [[15/14]], [[14/13]], [[13/12]] | | [[16/15]], [[15/14]], [[14/13]], [[13/12]] | ||
| Minor 2nd | | Minor 2nd | ||
| m2 | | m2 | ||
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| 5 | | 5 | ||
| 157.8947 | | 157.8947 | ||
|[[12/11]], [[11/10]] | | [[12/11]], [[11/10]] | ||
| Mid 2nd | | Mid 2nd | ||
| ~2 | | ~2 | ||
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| 6 | | 6 | ||
| 189.4737 | | 189.4737 | ||
|[[10/9]], [[19/17]], [[9/8]] | | [[10/9]], [[19/17]], [[9/8]] | ||
| Major 2nd | | Major 2nd | ||
| M2 | | M2 | ||
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| 7 | | 7 | ||
| 221.0526 | | 221.0526 | ||
|[[17/15]] | | [[17/15]] | ||
| Upmajor 2nd | | Upmajor 2nd | ||
| ^M2 | | ^M2 | ||
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| 8 | | 8 | ||
| 252.6316 | | 252.6316 | ||
|[[8/7]], [[15/13]], [[22/19]], [[7/6]] | | [[8/7]], [[15/13]], [[22/19]], [[7/6]] | ||
| Aug 2nd, Dim 3rd | | Aug 2nd, Dim 3rd | ||
| A2, d3 | | A2, d3 | ||
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| 9 | | 9 | ||
| 284.2105 | | 284.2105 | ||
|[[20/17]], [[13/11]], [[19/16]] | | [[20/17]], [[13/11]], [[19/16]] | ||
| Downminor 3rd | | Downminor 3rd | ||
| vm3 | | vm3 | ||
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| 10 | | 10 | ||
| 315.7895 | | 315.7895 | ||
|[[6/5]] | | [[6/5]] | ||
| Minor 3rd | | Minor 3rd | ||
| m3 | | m3 | ||
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| 11 | | 11 | ||
| 347.3684 | | 347.3684 | ||
|[[17/14]], [[11/9]] | | [[17/14]], [[11/9]] | ||
| Mid 3rd | | Mid 3rd | ||
| ~3 | | ~3 | ||
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| 12 | | 12 | ||
| 378.9474 | | 378.9474 | ||
|[[16/13]], [[5/4]] | | [[16/13]], [[5/4]] | ||
| Major 3rd | | Major 3rd | ||
| M3 | | M3 | ||
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| 13 | | 13 | ||
| 410.5263 | | 410.5263 | ||
|[[24/19]], [[19/15]], [[14/11]] | | [[24/19]], [[19/15]], [[14/11]] | ||
| Upmajor 3rd, Downdim 4th | | Upmajor 3rd, Downdim 4th | ||
| ^M3, vd4 | | ^M3, vd4 | ||
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| 14 | | 14 | ||
| 442.1053 | | 442.1053 | ||
|[[9/7]], [[22/17]], [[13/10]] | | [[9/7]], [[22/17]], [[13/10]] | ||
| Aug 3rd, dim 4th | | Aug 3rd, dim 4th | ||
| A3, d4 | | A3, d4 | ||
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| 15 | | 15 | ||
| 473.6843 | | 473.6843 | ||
|[[17/13]] | | [[17/13]] | ||
| Down 4th | | Down 4th | ||
| v4 | | v4 | ||
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| 16 | | 16 | ||
| 505.2632 | | 505.2632 | ||
|[[4/3]] | | [[4/3]] | ||
| Perfect 4th | | Perfect 4th | ||
| P4 | | P4 | ||
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| 17 | | 17 | ||
| 536.8421 | | 536.8421 | ||
|[[19/14]], [[15/11]], [[26/19]], [[11/8]] | | [[19/14]], [[15/11]], [[26/19]], [[11/8]] | ||
| Up 4th | | Up 4th | ||
| ^4 | | ^4 | ||
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| 18 | | 18 | ||
| 568.4211 | | 568.4211 | ||
|[[18/13]], [[7/5]] | | [[18/13]], [[7/5]] | ||
| Aug 4th | | Aug 4th | ||
| A4 | | A4 | ||
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| 19 | | 19 | ||
| 600.0000 | | 600.0000 | ||
|[[24/17]], [[17/12]] | | [[24/17]], [[17/12]] | ||
| Upaug 4th, downdim 5th | | Upaug 4th, downdim 5th | ||
| ^A4, vd5 | | ^A4, vd5 | ||
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| 20 | | 20 | ||
| 631.5789 | | 631.5789 | ||
|[[10/7]], [[13/9]] | | [[10/7]], [[13/9]] | ||
| Dim 5th | | Dim 5th | ||
| d5 | | d5 | ||
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| 21 | | 21 | ||
| 663.1579 | | 663.1579 | ||
|[[16/11]], [[19/13]], [[22/15]], [[28/19]] | | [[16/11]], [[19/13]], [[22/15]], [[28/19]] | ||
| Down 5th | | Down 5th | ||
| v5 | | v5 | ||
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| 22 | | 22 | ||
| 694.7368 | | 694.7368 | ||
|[[3/2]] | | [[3/2]] | ||
| Perfect 5th | | Perfect 5th | ||
| P5 | | P5 | ||
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| 23 | | 23 | ||
| 726.3157 | | 726.3157 | ||
|[[26/17]] | | [[26/17]] | ||
| Up 5th | | Up 5th | ||
| ^5 | | ^5 | ||
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| 24 | | 24 | ||
| 757.8947 | | 757.8947 | ||
|[[20/13]], [[17/11]], [[14/9]] | | [[20/13]], [[17/11]], [[14/9]] | ||
| Aug 5th, dim 6th | | Aug 5th, dim 6th | ||
| A5, d6 | | A5, d6 | ||
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| 25 | | 25 | ||
| 789.4737 | | 789.4737 | ||
|[[11/7]], [[30/19]], [[19/12]] | | [[11/7]], [[30/19]], [[19/12]] | ||
| Upaug 5th, downminor 6th | | Upaug 5th, downminor 6th | ||
| ^A5, vm6 | | ^A5, vm6 | ||
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| 26 | | 26 | ||
| 821.0526 | | 821.0526 | ||
|[[8/5]], [[13/8]] | | [[8/5]], [[13/8]] | ||
| Minor 6th | | Minor 6th | ||
| m6 | | m6 | ||
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| 27 | | 27 | ||
| 852.6316 | | 852.6316 | ||
|[[18/11]], [[28/17]] | | [[18/11]], [[28/17]] | ||
| Mid 6th | | Mid 6th | ||
| ~6 | | ~6 | ||
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| 28 | | 28 | ||
| 884.2105 | | 884.2105 | ||
|[[5/3]] | | [[5/3]] | ||
| Major 6th | | Major 6th | ||
| M6 | | M6 | ||
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| 29 | | 29 | ||
| 915.7895 | | 915.7895 | ||
|[[32/19]], [[22/13]], [[17/10]] | | [[32/19]], [[22/13]], [[17/10]] | ||
| Upmajor 6th | | Upmajor 6th | ||
| ^M6 | | ^M6 | ||
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| 30 | | 30 | ||
| 947.3684 | | 947.3684 | ||
|[[12/7]], [[19/11]], [[26/15]], [[7/4]] | | [[12/7]], [[19/11]], [[26/15]], [[7/4]] | ||
| Aug 6th, dim 7th | | Aug 6th, dim 7th | ||
| A6, d7 | | A6, d7 | ||
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| 31 | | 31 | ||
| 978.9474 | | 978.9474 | ||
|[[30/17]] | | [[30/17]] | ||
| Downminor 7th | | Downminor 7th | ||
| vm7 | | vm7 | ||
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| 32 | | 32 | ||
| 1010.5263 | | 1010.5263 | ||
|[[16/9]], [[34/19]], [[9/5]] | | [[16/9]], [[34/19]], [[9/5]] | ||
| Minor 7th | | Minor 7th | ||
| m7 | | m7 | ||
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| 33 | | 33 | ||
| 1042.1053 | | 1042.1053 | ||
|[[20/11]], [[11/6]] | | [[20/11]], [[11/6]] | ||
| Mid 7th | | Mid 7th | ||
| ~7 | | ~7 | ||
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| 34 | | 34 | ||
| 1073.6843 | | 1073.6843 | ||
|[[24/13]], [[13/7]], [[28/15]], [[15/8]] | | [[24/13]], [[13/7]], [[28/15]], [[15/8]] | ||
| Major 7th | | Major 7th | ||
| M7 | | M7 | ||
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| 35 | | 35 | ||
| 1105.2632 | | 1105.2632 | ||
|[[32/17]], [[17/9]], [[36/19]], [[19/10]] | | [[32/17]], [[17/9]], [[36/19]], [[19/10]] | ||
| Upmajor 7th, Downdim 8ve | | Upmajor 7th, Downdim 8ve | ||
| ^M7, vd8 | | ^M7, vd8 | ||
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| 36 | | 36 | ||
| 1136.8421 | | 1136.8421 | ||
| Aug 7th, dim 8ve | | Aug 7th, dim 8ve | ||
| A7, d8 | | A7, d8 | ||
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| 37 | | 37 | ||
| 1168.4211 | | 1168.4211 | ||
| Down 8ve | | Down 8ve | ||
| v8 | | v8 | ||
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| 38 | | 38 | ||
| 1200.0000 | | 1200.0000 | ||
| Perfect 8ve | | Perfect 8ve | ||
| P8 | | P8 | ||
| D | | D | ||
|} | |} | ||
<nowiki>* | <nowiki />* Ups and downs may be substituted with semi-sharps and semi-flats, respectively. | ||
== Instruments == | == Instruments == | ||
*[[Lumatone mapping for 38edo]] | * [[Lumatone mapping for 38edo]] | ||
*[[Skip fretting system 38 2 11]] | * [[Skip fretting system 38 2 11]] | ||
== Music == | == Music == | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw1Cz1ojoSw Canon at the Semitone on The Mother's Malison Theme for Cor Anglais and Violin] by [[Claudi Meneghin]] | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw1Cz1ojoSw Canon at the Semitone on The Mother's Malison Theme for Cor Anglais and Violin] by [[Claudi Meneghin]] | ||
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