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The '''Pythagorean tuning''' is the 3-limit version of [[just intonation]].
'''Pythagorean tuning''' is a system where all intervals are determined by perfect fifths tuned to [[3/2]] and [[2/1|octaves]]. As such, Pythagorean tuning contains the same intervals as [[3-limit]] [[just intonation]],


See [[3-limit]] for more information.
When accounting for octave equivalence, Pythagorean tuning mirrors the structure of the [[chain of fifths]].
 
== History ==
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{{wikipedia|Shi'er lü}}
Pythagorean tuning was not actually invented by [[Pythagoras of Samos|Pythagoras]]. The earliest records are from [[Mesopotamian music|Ancient Mesopotamia]], and it was later inherited by the [[Ancient Greek]]s.
 
The 12-tone form of Pythagorean tuning was (probably independently) invented in [[Chinese music|Ancient China]] between 600 BCE and 240 CE, where it was called '''shi'er lü''' (十二律).{{clear}}
 
== Relation to temperaments ==
Pythagorean tuning can be considered a [[trivial temperament|trivial]] [[rank-2 temperament|rank-2]] [[regular temperament|temperament]] in the [[3-limit|2.3 subgroup]], where it tempers out no commas (providing no additional mappings for intervals other than the pure just structure). As such, all rank-2 temperaments generated by 3/2 and 2/1 in the [[5-limit]] or higher (e.g. [[meantone]]) can be seen as [[extension]]s of Pythagorean tuning.
 
A series of just fifths can also be considered a reasonable tuning of the [[schismatic]] temperament, where the [[Pythagorean diminished fourth|diminished fourth]] (e.g. C–F♭) approximates [[5/4]], since the [[schisma]] is so small. Mark Lindley argues such a system was used in Europe during the 15th century<ref>Mark Lindley, ''Pythagorean Intonation and the Rise of the Triad'', Royal Musical Association Research Chronicle, 1980</ref>, with keyboards tuned to nearly pure fifths as
 
: {{dash| G♭, D♭, A♭, E♭, B♭, F, C, G, D, A, E, B }}.
 
This makes triads such as {{dash|D, G♭, A}} ({{dash|D, vF#, A}} more intuitively) very close to [[4:5:6]] in this tuning.
 
It can also be used to generate a more xenharmonic [[2.3.5.13 subgroup]] [[marveltwin]] [[Schismatic family#Tridecaschismic (2.3.5.13)|temperament]], as the triple-augmented fourth C–&nbsp;F♯♯♯ is incredibly close to [[13/8]], differing by the [[tridecapyth comma]] which is even smaller than the schisma.


== Scales ==
== Scales ==
* [[Pythagorean5]] - proper [[2L 3s]]. Also known as pythagorean pentatonic scale
Pythagorean tuning generates the following [[mos|MOS]] scales:
* [[Pythagorean7]] - improper [[5L 2s]]. Also known as pythagorean diatonic scale
* [[Pythagorean5]] proper [[2L&nbsp;3s]], also known as pentic, the ''pythagorean pentatonic scale''.
* [[Pythagorean12]] - proper [[5L 7s]]. Also known as pythagorean chromatic scale
* [[Pythagorean7]] improper [[5L&nbsp;2s]], also known as diatonic,the ''pythagorean diatonic scale''.
* [[Pythagorean17]] - improper [[12L 5s]]. Also known as pythagorean mega-chromatic scale
* [[Pythagorean12]] proper [[5L&nbsp;7s]], also known as p-chromatic, the ''pythagorean chromatic scale''.
* [[Pythagorean29]] - improper [[12L 17s]]
* [[Pythagorean17]] improper [[12L&nbsp;5s]], also known as p-enharmonic, the ''pythagorean enharmonic scale''.
* [[Pythagorean41]] - proper [[12L 29s]]
* [[Pythagorean29]] improper [[12L&nbsp;17s]], sometimes known as ''pythagotonic''.
* [[Pythagorean53]] - proper [[41L 12s]]
* [[Pythagorean41]] proper [[12L&nbsp;29s]], sometimes known as ''pythamystonic.''
* [[Pythagorean53]] proper [[41L&nbsp;12s]], sometimes known as ''pythomerc''.
 
The [[hardness]]es of the Pythagorean scales are about 1.442 for pentic, 2.260 for diatonic, 1.260 for chromatic, 3.846 for enharmonic, 2.8459 for pythagotonic, 1.8459 for pythamystonic, and 1.1822 for pythomerc. Pythamystonic, pentic, p-chromatic and pythomerc generate the softest MOS scales generated by a just fifth as their equalized tunings represent edos with convergent fifths.
 
== Approaches ==
There are many possible approaches to Pythagorean tuning, and each approach is associated with a different Pythagorean equave. The two most widely-used are [[octave]]-based and [[tritave]]-based Pythagorean.
 
[[Octave]]-based Pythagorean tuning is essentially how it is used in the common-practice music of the West. This gives MOS sizes of 2, 3, 5 ([[2L&nbsp;3s]] pentic), 7 ([[5L&nbsp;2s]] diatonic), 12 ([[5L&nbsp;7s]] chromatic), 17 ([[12L&nbsp;5s]] enharmonic), 29, 41, and 53.
 
[[Tritave]]-based Pythagorean tuning is an approach described in [https://arxiv.org/abs/1709.00375 this paper] by M. Schmidmeier. This gives MOS sizes of 2, 3, 5, 8 (3L&nbsp;5s), 11 (8L&nbsp;3s), 19 (8L&nbsp;11s), 27 (19L&nbsp;8s), 46, and 65. The 11-note scale can be regarded as the diatonic-like scale of tritave-equivalent Pythagorean, and the 19-note scale can be regarded as its respective chromatic-like scale.
 
== Music ==
See [[3-limit #Music]].


== See also ==
== See also ==
* [https://soundcloud.com/peter-rush-kosmorsky/string-trio-no-2-for-three-strings String Trio no. 2] [http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Kosmorsky/__String_Trio_no__2_by_Peter__Rush__Kosmorsky.mp3 play] by [[Peter Kosmorsky|Peter 'Rush' Kosmorsky]] in Pythagorean[17]
* [[3-limit]], the corresponding JI subgroup.
* [[Chain of fifths]], a harmonic structure based on the concepts of Pythagorean tuning.
 
== References ==
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