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{{Infobox Interval
| Name = ptolemisma, Ptolemy's comma
| Color name = 1uyy1, luyoyo 1sn,<br>Luyoyo comma
| Comma = yes
}}
In [[just intonation]], '''100/99''', the '''ptolemisma''' or '''Ptolemy's comma''', is a [[small comma|small]] [[superparticular ratio|superparticular]] [[comma]] of around 17.4¢ which makes the difference between [[11/10]], the greater undecimal neutral second of about 165¢, and [[10/9]], the 5-limit minor whole tone of about 182.4¢. It is also the difference between [[25/24]] and [[33/32]]. In terms of commatic relations it notably factors into [[225/224]] and [[896/891]].


In [[Just_intonation|Just Intonation]],100/99 is a [[superparticular|superparticular]] interval (the ptolemisma) of around 17.4¢ which makes the difference between [[11/10|11/10]], the greater undecimal neutral second of about 165¢, and [[10/9|10/9]], the 5-limit minor whole tone of about 182.4¢. Temperaments in which 100/99 is tempered out include [[22edo|22edo]], [[41edo|41edo]] and others; in such systems, 11/10 and 10/9 are equated. This is in contrast to the more familiar tempering out of [[81/80|81/80]], which results in meantone and other temperaments, in which 10/9 is equated, not with 11/10, but with [[9/8|9/8]]. Along with being the difference between 11/10 and 10/9, 100/99 is the amount by which an [[11/8|11/8]] and two [[6/5|6/5]]s fall short of an octave, so that tempering out 100/99 allows for the [[ptolemismic_triad|ptolemismic triad]] which has intervals of 11/8, 6/5, 6/5.
== Temperaments ==
[[Tempering out]] this interval in the 11-limit results in the rank-4 ptolemismic temperament (→ [[Rank-4 temperament #Ptolemismic (100/99)]]). [[Equal temperament]]s in which 100/99 is tempered out include [[22edo]], [[41edo]] and others. In such systems, 11/10 and 10/9 are equated. This is in contrast to the more familiar tempering out of [[81/80]], which results in meantone and other temperaments, in which 10/9 is equated, not with 11/10, but with [[9/8]]. However, meantone and ptolemismic are not necessarily mutually exclusive–the [[flattone]] temperament (known as "hypnotone" in the 2.3.5.11 subgroup) merges both and has [[11/10]], [[10/9]] and [[9/8]] all tempered to a 10/9-like interval. Along with being the difference between 11/10 and 10/9, 100/99 is the amount by which an [[11/8]] and two [[6/5]]'s fall short of an octave, so that tempering out 100/99 allows for the [[ptolemismic triad]] which has intervals of 11/8, 6/5, 6/5.  


See: [[Gallery_of_Just_Intervals|Galley of Just Intervals]]     [[Category:11-limit]]
See [[Ptolemismic clan]] for the clan of rank-3 temperaments where it is tempered out.
[[Category:superparticular]]
 
== Approximation ==
If the interval is not tempered out and instead treated as an identity, it is extremely closely represented by one step of [[69edo]]. The associated unnoticeable comma, [[ptolemi-nicema]], represents the difference between 69 100/99's and the octave, is only 0.56 cents wide. Nice.
 
== See also ==
* [[List of superparticular intervals]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [[:File: Demo 100 99 tempered.pdf]]
 
[[Category:Ptolemismic]]
[[Category:Commas named after polymaths]]