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Created page with "{{Breadcrumb|Keemun}} Keemun has various competing extensions to the 11- and 13-limit. The following temperaments are discussed in this article: * '''Tridecimal keemun''' (15 & 19) – tempering out 49/48, 56/55, 91/90, 100/99; * '''Kimah''' (15f & 19) – tempering out 49/48, 56/55, 65/64, 100/99; * '''Kumbaya''' (15 & 19f) – tempering out 40/39, 49/48, 56/55, 66/65; * '''Qeema''' (15e & 19) – tempering out 45/44, 49/48, 78/77, 126/125;..." |
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* '''Tridecimal keemun''' (15 & 19) – tempering out 49/48, 56/55, 91/90, 100/99; | * '''Tridecimal keemun''' (15 & 19) – tempering out 49/48, 56/55, 91/90, 100/99; | ||
* '''Kimah''' (15f & 19) – tempering out 49/48, 56/55, 65/64, 100/99; | * '''Kimah''' (15f & 19) – tempering out 49/48, 56/55, 65/64, 100/99; | ||
* '''Qeema''' (15e & 19) – tempering out 45/44, 49/48, 78/77, 126/125; | |||
* '''Kumbaya''' (15 & 19f) – tempering out 40/39, 49/48, 56/55, 66/65; | * '''Kumbaya''' (15 & 19f) – tempering out 40/39, 49/48, 56/55, 66/65; | ||
* '''Darjeeling''' (15 & 19e) – tempering out 49/48, 55/54, 66/65, 77/75. | * '''Darjeeling''' (15 & 19e) – tempering out 49/48, 55/54, 66/65, 77/75. | ||
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! rowspan="3" | # | ! rowspan="3" | # | ||
! colspan=" | ! colspan="7" | Approximate ratios | ||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan="2" | Cents* | ! rowspan="2" | Cents* | ||
! rowspan="2" | 7-limit | ! rowspan="2" | 7-limit | ||
! colspan=" | ! colspan="5" | 13-limit extensions | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Keemun | ! Keemun | ||
! Kimah | ! Kimah | ||
! Kumbaya | ! Qeema | ||
! Kumbaya | |||
! Darjeeling | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 0 | | 0 | ||
| 0.0 | | 0.0 | ||
| 1/1 | | '''1/1''' | ||
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| 316.8 | | 316.8 | ||
| 6/5 | | 6/5 | ||
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| 13/11, '''16/13''' | | 13/11, '''16/13''' | ||
| | | 11/9, 13/11 | ||
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| 2 | | 2 | ||
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| 13/9, '''16/11''' | | 13/9, '''16/11''' | ||
| '''16/11''' | | '''16/11''' | ||
| 13/9 | |||
| '''16/11''' | | '''16/11''' | ||
| 13/9, 22/15 | |||
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| 3 | | 3 | ||
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| 26/15 | | 26/15 | ||
| 22/13 | | 22/13 | ||
| 22/13, 26/15 | |||
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| 26/15 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 4 | | 4 | ||
| 67.3 | | 67.3 | ||
| 21/20, 25/24, 36/35 | | 21/20, 25/24, 36/35 | ||
| 33/32 | | 27/26, 33/32 | ||
| 33/32 | | 33/32 | ||
| 27/26 | |||
| 14/13, 33/32 | | 14/13, 33/32 | ||
| 27/26, 88/45 | |||
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| 5 | | 5 | ||
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| 14/11 | | 14/11 | ||
| 14/11, '''16/13''' | | 14/11, '''16/13''' | ||
| 11/9 | |||
| 14/11 | | 14/11 | ||
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| 6 | | 6 | ||
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| 22/15 | |||
| 20/13 | | 20/13 | ||
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| 20/11 | | 20/11 | ||
| 20/11 | | 20/11 | ||
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| 20/11, 24/13 | | 20/11, 24/13 | ||
| 11/6 | |||
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| 8 | | 8 | ||
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| 12/11, 13/12 | | 12/11, 13/12 | ||
| 12/11, 14/13 | | 12/11, 14/13 | ||
| 13/12 | |||
| 12/11 | | 12/11 | ||
| 11/10, 13/12 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 9 | | 9 | ||
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| 13/10 | | 13/10 | ||
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| 13/10 | |||
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| 13/10 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 10 | | 10 | ||
| 768.3 | | 768.3 | ||
| 25/16 | | 25/16 | ||
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| 20/13 | | 20/13 | ||
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| 11/7 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 11 | | 11 | ||
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| 13/7 | | 13/7 | ||
| 24/13 | | 24/13 | ||
| 11/6, 13/7 | |||
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| 13/7 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 12 | | 12 | ||
| 202.0 | | 202.0 | ||
| 9/8 | | '''9/8''' | ||
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| 11/10 | |||
| 15/13 | | 15/13 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 13 | | 13 | ||
| 518.8 | | 518.8 | ||
| | | 27/20 | ||
| 15/11 | | 15/11 | ||
| 15/11 | | 15/11 | ||
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| 15/11, 18/13 | | 15/11, 18/13 | ||
| '''11/8''' | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 14 | | 14 | ||
| 835.6 | | 835.6 | ||
| | | 45/28 | ||
| '''13/8''', 18/11 | | '''13/8''', 18/11 | ||
| 18/11, 21/13 | | 18/11, 21/13 | ||
| 11/7, '''13/8''' | |||
| 18/11 | | 18/11 | ||
| '''13/8''' | |||
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| 15 | | 15 | ||
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| 25/13 | | 25/13 | ||
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| 16 | | 16 | ||
| 269.3 | | 269.3 | ||
| | | 75/64, 81/70 | ||
| 13/11 | | 13/11 | ||
| 15/13 | | 15/13 | ||
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| 18/13 | | 18/13 | ||
| '''11/8''' | |||
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| 902.9 | | 902.9 | ||
| 27/16 | | 27/16 | ||
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| 19.8 | | 19.8 | ||
| 81/80 | | 81/80 | ||
| 45/44 | |||
| 45/44 | |||
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| 45/44 | |||
| 33/32 | |||
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<nowiki>*</nowiki> In 7-limit CWE tuning, octave reduced | |||
== Tunings == | |||
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | |||
|+ style="font-size: 105%; white-space: nowrap;" | 11-limit norm-based tunings (keemun) | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2" | | |||
! colspan="3" | Euclidean | |||
|- | |||
! Constrained | |||
! Constrained & skewed | |||
! Destretched | |||
|- | |||
! Tenney | |||
| CTE: ~6/5 = 317.5063{{c}} | |||
| CWE: ~6/5 = 317.5546{{c}} | |||
| POTE: ~6/5 = 317.5756{{c}} | |||
|} | |||
=== Tuning spectra === | |||
==== Tridecimal keemun ==== | |||
{| class="wikitable center-all left-4" | |||
|- | |||
! Edo<br>generator | |||
! [[Eigenmonzo|Eigenmonzo <br>(unchanged interval)]]* | |||
! Generator (¢) | |||
! Comments | |||
|- | |||
| [[4edo|1\4]] | |||
| | |||
| 300.000 | |||
| 4f val, lower bound of 5- and 7-odd-limit diamond monotone | |||
|- | |||
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| 7/5 | |||
| 308.744 | |||
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|- | |||
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| 7/6 | |||
| 311.043 | |||
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|- | |||
| [[23edo|6\23]] | |||
| | |||
| 313.043 | |||
| 23dff val | |||
|- | |||
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| 15/14 | |||
| 314.930 | |||
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|- | |||
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| 9/7 | |||
| 315.009 | |||
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|- | |||
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| 13/7 | |||
| 315.609 | |||
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|- | |||
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| 5/3 | |||
| 315.641 | |||
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|- | |||
| [[19edo|5\19]] | |||
| | |||
| 315.789 | |||
| Lower bound of 9- and 11-odd-limit diamond monotone | |||
|- | |||
| | |||
| 9/5 | |||
| 316.799 | |||
| 1/7-kleisma | |||
|- | |||
| [[53edo|14\53]] | |||
| | |||
| 316.981 | |||
| 53de val | |||
|- | |||
| | |||
| 3/2 | |||
| 316.993 | |||
| 5-, 7- and 9-odd-limit minimax, 1/6-kleisma | |||
|- | |||
| | |||
| 15/8 | |||
| 317.115 | |||
| 2/11-kleisma | |||
|- | |||
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| 13/10 | |||
| 317.134 | |||
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|- | |||
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| 13/8 | |||
| 317.181 | |||
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|- | |||
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| 5/4 | |||
| 317.263 | |||
| 1/5-kleisma | |||
|- | |||
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| 13/12 | |||
| 317.322 | |||
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|- | |||
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| 15/13 | |||
| 317.420 | |||
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|- | |||
| [[34edo|9\34]] | |||
| | |||
| 317.647 | |||
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|- | |||
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| 11/9 | |||
| 318.042 | |||
| 11-, 13- and 15-odd-limit minimax | |||
|- | |||
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| 13/10 | |||
| 318.076 | |||
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|- | |||
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| 15/11 | |||
| 318.227 | |||
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|- | |||
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| 11/10 | |||
| 319.285 | |||
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|- | |||
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| 13/9 | |||
| 318.309 | |||
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|- | |||
| [[49edo|13\49]] | |||
| | | | ||
| 318.367 | |||
| 49df val | |||
|- | |||
| | | | ||
| 11/6 | |||
| 318.830 | |||
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|- | |||
| [[15edo|4\15]] | |||
| | |||
| 320.000 | |||
| Upper bound of 9- and 11-odd-limit diamond monotone | |||
|- | |||
| | |||
| 7/4 | |||
| 322.942 | |||
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|- | |||
| | |||
| 11/7 | |||
| 323.502 | |||
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|- | |||
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| 11/8 | |||
| 324.341 | |||
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|- | |||
| [[11edo|3\11]] | |||
| | |||
| 327.273 | |||
| 11bff val, upper bound of 5- and 7-odd-limit diamond monotone | |||
|} | |} | ||
<nowiki>* | <nowiki/>* Besides the octave | ||
[[Category:Keemun]] | [[Category:Keemun]] | ||
[[Category:Temperament extensions]] | [[Category:Temperament extensions]] | ||
Latest revision as of 13:04, 1 November 2026
Keemun has various competing extensions to the 11- and 13-limit. The following temperaments are discussed in this article:
- Tridecimal keemun (15 & 19) – tempering out 49/48, 56/55, 91/90, 100/99;
- Kimah (15f & 19) – tempering out 49/48, 56/55, 65/64, 100/99;
- Qeema (15e & 19) – tempering out 45/44, 49/48, 78/77, 126/125;
- Kumbaya (15 & 19f) – tempering out 40/39, 49/48, 56/55, 66/65;
- Darjeeling (15 & 19e) – tempering out 49/48, 55/54, 66/65, 77/75.
See Kleismic family #Keemun, #Kimah, #Kumbaya, #Qeema, and #Darjeeling for technical data.
Interval chain
| # | Approximate ratios | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cents* | 7-limit | 13-limit extensions | |||||
| Keemun | Kimah | Qeema | Kumbaya | Darjeeling | |||
| 0 | 0.0 | 1/1 | |||||
| 1 | 316.8 | 6/5 | 13/11, 16/13 | 11/9, 13/11 | |||
| 2 | 633.7 | 10/7 | 13/9, 16/11 | 16/11 | 13/9 | 16/11 | 13/9, 22/15 |
| 3 | 950.5 | 7/4, 12/7 | 26/15 | 22/13 | 22/13, 26/15 | 26/15 | |
| 4 | 67.3 | 21/20, 25/24, 36/35 | 27/26, 33/32 | 33/32 | 27/26 | 14/13, 33/32 | 27/26, 88/45 |
| 5 | 384.1 | 5/4 | 14/11 | 14/11, 16/13 | 11/9 | 14/11 | |
| 6 | 701.0 | 3/2 | 22/15 | 20/13 | |||
| 7 | 1017.8 | 9/5 | 20/11 | 20/11 | 20/11, 24/13 | 11/6 | |
| 8 | 134.6 | 15/14 | 12/11, 13/12 | 12/11, 14/13 | 13/12 | 12/11 | 11/10, 13/12 |
| 9 | 451.5 | 9/7, 21/16 | 13/10 | 13/10 | 13/10 | ||
| 10 | 768.3 | 25/16 | 20/13 | 11/7 | |||
| 11 | 1085.1 | 15/8 | 13/7 | 24/13 | 11/6, 13/7 | 13/7 | |
| 12 | 202.0 | 9/8 | 11/10 | 15/13 | |||
| 13 | 518.8 | 27/20 | 15/11 | 15/11 | 15/11, 18/13 | 11/8 | |
| 14 | 835.6 | 45/28 | 13/8, 18/11 | 18/11, 21/13 | 11/7, 13/8 | 18/11 | 13/8 |
| 15 | 1152.4 | 27/14 | 25/13 | ||||
| 16 | 269.3 | 75/64, 81/70 | 13/11 | 15/13 | |||
| 17 | 586.1 | 45/32 | 18/13 | 11/8 | |||
| 18 | 902.9 | 27/16 | |||||
| 19 | 19.8 | 81/80 | 45/44 | 45/44 | 45/44 | 33/32 | |
* In 7-limit CWE tuning, octave reduced
Tunings
| Euclidean | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Constrained | Constrained & skewed | Destretched | |
| Tenney | CTE: ~6/5 = 317.5063 ¢ | CWE: ~6/5 = 317.5546 ¢ | POTE: ~6/5 = 317.5756 ¢ |
Tuning spectra
Tridecimal keemun
| Edo generator |
Eigenmonzo (unchanged interval)* |
Generator (¢) | Comments |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1\4 | 300.000 | 4f val, lower bound of 5- and 7-odd-limit diamond monotone | |
| 7/5 | 308.744 | ||
| 7/6 | 311.043 | ||
| 6\23 | 313.043 | 23dff val | |
| 15/14 | 314.930 | ||
| 9/7 | 315.009 | ||
| 13/7 | 315.609 | ||
| 5/3 | 315.641 | ||
| 5\19 | 315.789 | Lower bound of 9- and 11-odd-limit diamond monotone | |
| 9/5 | 316.799 | 1/7-kleisma | |
| 14\53 | 316.981 | 53de val | |
| 3/2 | 316.993 | 5-, 7- and 9-odd-limit minimax, 1/6-kleisma | |
| 15/8 | 317.115 | 2/11-kleisma | |
| 13/10 | 317.134 | ||
| 13/8 | 317.181 | ||
| 5/4 | 317.263 | 1/5-kleisma | |
| 13/12 | 317.322 | ||
| 15/13 | 317.420 | ||
| 9\34 | 317.647 | ||
| 11/9 | 318.042 | 11-, 13- and 15-odd-limit minimax | |
| 13/10 | 318.076 | ||
| 15/11 | 318.227 | ||
| 11/10 | 319.285 | ||
| 13/9 | 318.309 | ||
| 13\49 | 318.367 | 49df val | |
| 11/6 | 318.830 | ||
| 4\15 | 320.000 | Upper bound of 9- and 11-odd-limit diamond monotone | |
| 7/4 | 322.942 | ||
| 11/7 | 323.502 | ||
| 11/8 | 324.341 | ||
| 3\11 | 327.273 | 11bff val, upper bound of 5- and 7-odd-limit diamond monotone |
* Besides the octave