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'''Deeptone''' or '''tragicomical''' is a [[5-limit]] [[regular temperament|temperament]] that [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[comma]] [[177147/163840]]. It is generated by a fifth (~[[3/2]]), which is typically sharper than in [[7edo]] but flatter than in [[flattone]] or [[flattertone]] (approximately 686-691{{cent}}). The ~[[5/4]] is reached by eleven fifths octave-reduced, which is an augmented third (C–E♯). A characteristic feature of deeptone is that the [[81/80|syntonic comma]] is tuned negative, represented by a diminished unison (C–C♭). This means that ~[[81/64]] is a ''submajor third'', tuned flatter than ~[[5/4]], and ~[[32/27]] is a ''supraminor third'', tuned sharper than ~[[6/5]]. It has high [[error]] because of its flat tuning of 3/2, although the well-known [[mavila]] temperament has a 3/2 that is much flatter still. Four edos support deeptone in their [[patent val]] ([[7edo]], [[33edo]], [[40edo]], and [[47edo]]), and additionally there is the near-patent val [[54edo|54b-edo]]. | '''Deeptone''' or '''tragicomical''' is a [[5-limit]] [[regular temperament|temperament]] that [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[comma]] [[177147/163840]]. It is generated by a fifth (~[[3/2]]), which is typically sharper than in [[7edo]] but flatter than in [[flattone]] or [[flattertone]] (approximately 686-691{{cent}}). The ~[[5/4]] is reached by eleven fifths octave-reduced, which is an augmented third (C–E♯). A characteristic feature of deeptone is that the [[81/80|syntonic comma]] is tuned negative, represented by a diminished unison (C–C♭). This means that ~[[81/64]] is a ''submajor third'', tuned flatter than ~[[5/4]], and ~[[32/27]] is a ''supraminor third'', tuned sharper than ~[[6/5]]. It has high [[error]] because of its flat tuning of 3/2, although the well-known [[mavila]] temperament has a 3/2 that is much flatter still. It is rated as high-[[badness]] by most badness metrics due to the combination of high [[error]] and high [[complexity]], but it is still of a low enough badness to be usable. Four edos support deeptone in their [[patent val]] ([[7edo]], [[33edo]], [[40edo]], and [[47edo]]), and additionally there is the near-patent val [[54edo|54b-edo]]. | ||
See [[Syntonic–chromatic equivalence continuum #Deeptone a.k.a. tragicomical]] for technical data. | See [[Syntonic–chromatic equivalence continuum #Deeptone a.k.a. tragicomical]] for technical data. | ||
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== Extensions == | == Extensions == | ||
Deeptone has an accurate [[13/8]], represented by the interval notated as a minor sixth, so it is very plausible to have a 2.3.5.13-[[subgroup]] [[extension]] tempering out both [[177147/163840]] and [[1053/1024]] (the tridecimal quartertone). This also gives a more simple interpretation of deeptone's major and minor thirds as tridecimal neutral thirds [[16/13]] and [[39/32]] respectively. Tuning this | Deeptone has an accurate [[13/8]], represented by the interval notated as a minor sixth, so it is very plausible to have a 2.3.5.13-[[subgroup]] [[extension]] tempering out both [[177147/163840]] and [[1053/1024]] (the tridecimal quartertone). This also gives a more simple interpretation of deeptone's major and minor thirds as tridecimal neutral thirds [[16/13]] and [[39/32]] respectively. Tuning this deeptone extension in [[40edo]] results in essentially perfect tuning of [[13/8]] and [[16/13]], which is inherited from [[10edo]]. | ||
== Scales == | == Scales == | ||
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== Interval chain == | == Interval chain == | ||
In the following table, prime harmonics are labeled in '''bold'''. | In the following table, prime harmonics and subharmonics are labeled in '''bold'''. | ||
{| class="wikitable center-1 right-2" | {| class="wikitable center-1 right-2" | ||
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| 0 || perfect unison || P1 || C || 0.0 || [[1/1]] || | | 0 || perfect unison || P1 || C || 0.0 || [[1/1]] || | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 || perfect 5th || P5 || G || 689.879 || [[3/2]] || | | 1 || perfect 5th || P5 || G || 689.879 || '''[[3/2]]''' || | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 2 || major 2nd || M2 || D || 179.758 || [[9/8]] || [[128/117]] | | 2 || major 2nd || M2 || D || 179.758 || [[9/8]] || [[128/117]] | ||
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| 3 || major 6th || M6 || A || 869.637 || [[27/16]] || [[64/39]] | | 3 || major 6th || M6 || A || 869.637 || [[27/16]] || [[64/39]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 4 || major 3rd || M3 || E || 359.516 || [[81/64]] || [[16/13]] | | 4 || major 3rd || M3 || E || 359.516 || [[81/64]] || '''[[16/13]]''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 5 || major 7th || M7 || B || 1049.395 || [[243/128]] | | 5 || major 7th || M7 || B || 1049.395 || [[243/128]] || [[24/13]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 6 || aug 4th || A4 || G# || 539.274 || [[729/512]], [[320/243]] || [[18/13]] | | 6 || aug 4th || A4 || G# || 539.274 || [[729/512]], [[320/243]] || [[18/13]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 7 || aug unison || A1 || C# || 29.153 || [[2187/2048]], [[81/80|80/81]] || [[27/26]] | | 7 || aug unison || A1 || C# || 29.153 || [[2187/2048]], [[81/80|80/81]] || [[27/26]] | ||
|- | |||
| 8 || aug 5th || A5 || G# || 719.032 || [[40/27]] || | |||
|- | |||
| 9 || aug 2nd || A2 || D# || 208.911 || [[10/9]] || | |||
|- | |||
| 10 || aug 6th || A6 || A# || 898.79 || [[5/3]] || | |||
|- | |||
| 11 || aug 3rd || A3 || E# || 388.669 || '''[[5/4]]''' || | |||
|- | |||
| 12 || aug 7th || A7 || B# || 1078.548 || [[15/8]] || | |||
|- | |||
| 13 || doubly-aug 4th || AA4 || Fx || 568.427 || [[45/32]] || | |||
|} | |} | ||
<nowiki/>* In 5-limit CTE tuning | <nowiki/>* In 5-limit CTE tuning | ||
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<references/> | <references/> | ||
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[[Category:Rank-2 temperaments]] | [[Category:Rank-2 temperaments]] | ||
Latest revision as of 14:00, 28 April 2025
Deeptone or tragicomical is a 5-limit temperament that tempers out the comma 177147/163840. It is generated by a fifth (~3/2), which is typically sharper than in 7edo but flatter than in flattone or flattertone (approximately 686-691 ¢). The ~5/4 is reached by eleven fifths octave-reduced, which is an augmented third (C–E♯). A characteristic feature of deeptone is that the syntonic comma is tuned negative, represented by a diminished unison (C–C♭). This means that ~81/64 is a submajor third, tuned flatter than ~5/4, and ~32/27 is a supraminor third, tuned sharper than ~6/5. It has high error because of its flat tuning of 3/2, although the well-known mavila temperament has a 3/2 that is much flatter still. It is rated as high-badness by most badness metrics due to the combination of high error and high complexity, but it is still of a low enough badness to be usable. Four edos support deeptone in their patent val (7edo, 33edo, 40edo, and 47edo), and additionally there is the near-patent val 54b-edo.
See Syntonic–chromatic equivalence continuum #Deeptone a.k.a. tragicomical for technical data.
Etymology
Deeptone was given by CompactStar in 2023, referring to the temperament featuring fifths even flatter than flattone. Tragicomical was allegedly given by groundfault no later than 2023.[1]
Extensions
Deeptone has an accurate 13/8, represented by the interval notated as a minor sixth, so it is very plausible to have a 2.3.5.13-subgroup extension tempering out both 177147/163840 and 1053/1024 (the tridecimal quartertone). This also gives a more simple interpretation of deeptone's major and minor thirds as tridecimal neutral thirds 16/13 and 39/32 respectively. Tuning this deeptone extension in 40edo results in essentially perfect tuning of 13/8 and 16/13, which is inherited from 10edo.
Scales
When properly tuned, Deeptone features mos scales of the families 2L 3s, 5L 2s, 7L 5s, 7L 12s, and 7L 19s. Another important scale, intermediate between the 7L 5s and 7L 12s scales, is the "Deeptone[14]" non-mos scale. This scale is notable for being the smallest deeptone scale that is generally "complete" for 5-limit purposes (as noted by groundfault) since Deeptone[12] has a paucity of 5-limit triads. Deeptone[14] is essentially just two interlaced Deeptone[7] diatonic scales with one of them being offset by an augmented unison above the other.
Interval chain
In the following table, prime harmonics and subharmonics are labeled in bold.
| # | Notation | Cents* | Approximate ratios (5-limit) | Additional ratios in 2.3.5.13 extension | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0 | perfect unison | P1 | C | 0.0 | 1/1 | |
| 1 | perfect 5th | P5 | G | 689.879 | 3/2 | |
| 2 | major 2nd | M2 | D | 179.758 | 9/8 | 128/117 |
| 3 | major 6th | M6 | A | 869.637 | 27/16 | 64/39 |
| 4 | major 3rd | M3 | E | 359.516 | 81/64 | 16/13 |
| 5 | major 7th | M7 | B | 1049.395 | 243/128 | 24/13 |
| 6 | aug 4th | A4 | G# | 539.274 | 729/512, 320/243 | 18/13 |
| 7 | aug unison | A1 | C# | 29.153 | 2187/2048, 80/81 | 27/26 |
| 8 | aug 5th | A5 | G# | 719.032 | 40/27 | |
| 9 | aug 2nd | A2 | D# | 208.911 | 10/9 | |
| 10 | aug 6th | A6 | A# | 898.79 | 5/3 | |
| 11 | aug 3rd | A3 | E# | 388.669 | 5/4 | |
| 12 | aug 7th | A7 | B# | 1078.548 | 15/8 | |
| 13 | doubly-aug 4th | AA4 | Fx | 568.427 | 45/32 | |
* In 5-limit CTE tuning