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I noticed that in [[Adminlist]], you marked bold the tylerhenj. Is Tyler Henj your brother? [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[Editor PiotrGrochowski|info]], [[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/PiotrGrochowski|contribs]]) 14:28, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

: Tyler Henj is an imposter. Don't listen to anything he says. [[User:Tyler Henthorn|Tyler Henthorn]] ([[User talk:Tyler Henthorn|talk]]) 15:40, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

:: You seem to have some secrets behind, as bold (which tylerhenj is) means that tylerhenj is on en.xen.wiki and an organizer. [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[Editor PiotrGrochowski|info]], [[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/PiotrGrochowski|contribs]]) 16:01, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

== Fwd: Extension request ==

Hi Tyler, I hope you are well.

I wanted to ask you to add two extensions to the Wiki:

:1) [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight Extension:SyntaxHighlight - MediaWiki] - there are a lot of code boxes (maple, python etc.) that could benefit from it

:2) [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap Extension:ImageMap - MediaWiki] - maps of intervals and such could be easily linked to articles

I first put the request to Mike, who [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Mike_Battaglia&oldid=50568#Extension_request agreed and told me to ask you about the implementation].

Thanks in advance for having a look at it. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 07:55, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

:I will add these when I upgrade MediaWiki to 1.35. [[User:Tyler Henthorn|Tyler Henthorn]] ([[User talk:Tyler Henthorn|talk]]) 07:38, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

:: Yes, that makes sense. Thanks for the information, Tyler. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 19:45, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

If you have the time, please also have a look into [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto Scribunto]. This will look hard at first but [[User:Xenwolf/Template:Primes in EDO|Template:Primes in EDO]] (under construction) isn't easy to handle either. Thanks in advance --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 21:03, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

== Images and image maps ==

Hi Tyler,

I managed to get it working (see [[User:Xenwolf/SandBox#ImageMap]]) but I observe some deviation from the behavior that I'd expect (compared to Wikipedia, MediaWiki docs, and my experiences in another Version-1.35 based wiki): the image description link is not provided by the blue ⓘ icon, there is also a problem with images at all: no link to the image description page is provided when using <code>frame</code> or <code>thumb</code> in the image markup (both cause the image to appear framed with space for a image description).

BTW: thanks for the upgrade (and for adding the extensions)!

--[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 12:40, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

== Issues in MW 1.35 ==

I observe some '''extra space after external links''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placeholder Placeholder] that is not added for interwiki links [[Wikipedia:Placeholder]] or internal links [[Help:Links]]. Any idea what could have caused this? I don't remember if we had '''background images'''? for external links before. If yes then maybe something has changed in the '''image path'''? so that the '''CSS is pointing to wrong places'''? now. This could as well explain why we lost the '''order indicator icons''' for sorted tables and the expand '''icons for bundled changes''' in the recent changes list. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 19:46, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

: I'm relatively sure that [[mw:Extension:WikiEditor]] is missing now, it provides the edit toolbar. It scan but should not be confused with the visual editor. I'm not sure is this is a new config requirement in 1.35 (I know from another wiki that it is necessary, and the toolbar gives much more support that the former one: quoting, special chars and so on). I guess that there was a rudimentary built-in solution before that has gone now. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 21:29, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

== Maintenance bot ==

Hi Tyler, I asked Xenwolf a question (see [[User talk:Xenwolf#Maintenance_bot]]) and he said you were probably the right person to ask!

I notice that we sometimes do manual cleaning which could be automated by bots, such as fixing double redirects. I stumbled upon this yesterday: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/redirect.py

Do you think there's a chance it could be installed on this wiki? Unless there's already something similar available that I don't know of yet? --[[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 05:05, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

== Extensions ==

Hi Tyler! I'd like to request a few extensions:

* [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Purge|Extension:Purge]]. This one is useful when you've working on a template or a Lua module and test your changes on some page. Using a purge button instead of making a null edit saves both clicks and page load time.

* [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:TemplateStyles|Extension:TemplateStyles]]. This one is useful when you need some custom CSS rules which can't be put into <code>style="..."</code> but aren't important enough to go into the global [[MediaWiki:Common.css]].

* [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Gadgets|Extension:Gadgets]]. This one is useful for organising JS things like my WIP [[User:Plumtree/Sound|in-browser sound generation project]].

* [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Semantic MediaWiki|Extension:Semantic MediaWiki]]. This one is a powerful upgrade of the category system. With SMW, you can assign properties to pages, query complex conditions based on those properties and categories and output the result in a highly customisable way. But it might be a bit more tricky to install.

* [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:NativeSvgHandler|Extension:NativeSvgHandler]]. This one serves SVGs as SVGs without server-side rendering into PNGs with horrible resolution.

Additionally, most interval pages link to [[xen-calc]] and ConfirmEdit triggers when such a link is added by a template. Could you [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:ConfirmEdit#URL_and_IP_whitelists|add it to exceptions]] or [[Special:Interwiki|configure an interwiki]]?

[[User:Plumtree|Plumtree]] ([[User talk:Plumtree|talk]]) 13:55, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

== Extensions (2024) ==

I'd like to request the tabber extension to be added: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TabberNeue

Such an extension would allow for multiple sections' worth of similar information to be condensed into a single section. More to the point, pages such as this ([[5L 2s]]) have multiple tuning subsections that can be further condensed into one section, thus saving space and better organizing page information. (For an outside example, consider this RS Wiki page and its use of the tabber extension: https://runescape.wiki/w/Arch-Glacor/Strategies)

Thank you for your consideration.

[[User:Ganaram inukshuk|Ganaram inukshuk]] ([[User talk:Ganaram inukshuk|talk]]) 04:25, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

== Google ranking ==

It seems like in the past few weeks, the wiki has not been showing up in revelant Google searches. Other search engines seem unaffected.

It's unclear what has caused this, but if I had to guess, we are likely being flagged by some automatic system on their end.

I'm not sure what the proper course of action is, since Google's algorithms are (intentionally) opaque.

However, there are some tools in the [https://search.google.com/search-console/welcome|Google Search Console] that may reveal issues.

To use these tools you need to prove you are the domain owner though, so I think you are the only one who can access them.

It would be nice to know if there are some actions we can take improve the situation.

[[User:Sintel|Sintel]] ([[User talk:Sintel|talk]]) 18:17, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

: Yes it looks like it drops off starting Jan 21. I am looking into it. [[User:Tyler Henthorn|Tyler Henthorn]] ([[User talk:Tyler Henthorn|talk]]) 04:07, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

:: I've implemented a fix. Thank you for pointing this out [[User:Tyler Henthorn|Tyler Henthorn]] ([[User talk:Tyler Henthorn|talk]]) 05:20, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

::: Some time has passed and it doesn't seem like it has resolved. Is there anything we can do? – [[User:Sintel|Sintel🎏]] ([[User_talk:Sintel|talk]]) 21:54, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

::: (The main page is listed on google, but none of the other pages are as far as I can tell) [[User:Hkm|hkm]] ([[User talk:Hkm|talk]]) 22:28, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

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 I noticed that in [[Adminlist]], you marked bold the tylerhenj. Is Tyler Henj your brother? [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[Editor PiotrGrochowski|info]], [[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/PiotrGrochowski|contribs]]) 14:28, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 : Tyler Henj is an imposter. Don't listen to anything he says. [[User:Tyler Henthorn|Tyler Henthorn]] ([[User talk:Tyler Henthorn|talk]]) 15:40, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
+:: You seem to have some secrets behind, as bold (which tylerhenj is) means that tylerhenj is on en.xen.wiki and an organizer. [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[Editor PiotrGrochowski|info]], [[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/PiotrGrochowski|contribs]]) 16:01, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
+== Fwd: Extension request ==
+Hi Tyler, I hope you are well. <br>
+I wanted to ask you to add two extensions to the Wiki:
+:1) [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight Extension&#58;SyntaxHighlight &#45; MediaWiki] - there are a lot of code boxes (maple, python etc.) that could benefit from it
+:2) [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap Extension&#58;ImageMap &#45; MediaWiki] - maps of intervals and such could be easily linked to articles
+I first put the request to Mike, who [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Mike_Battaglia&oldid=50568#Extension_request agreed and told me to ask you about the implementation]. <br>
+Thanks in advance for having a look at it. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 07:55, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
+:I will add these when I upgrade MediaWiki to 1.35. [[User:Tyler Henthorn|Tyler Henthorn]] ([[User talk:Tyler Henthorn|talk]]) 07:38, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
+:: Yes, that makes sense. Thanks for the information, Tyler. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 19:45, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
+If you have the time, please also have a look into [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto Scribunto]. This will look hard at first but [[User:Xenwolf/Template:Primes in EDO|Template:Primes in EDO]] <sup>(under construction)</sup> isn't easy to handle either. Thanks in advance --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 21:03, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
+== Images and image maps ==
+Hi Tyler, <br>
+I managed to get it working (see [[User:Xenwolf/SandBox#ImageMap]]) but I observe some deviation from the behavior that I'd expect (compared to Wikipedia, MediaWiki docs, and my experiences in another Version-1.35 based wiki): the image description link is not provided by the blue ⓘ icon, there is also a problem with images at all: no link to the image description page is provided when using <code>frame</code> or <code>thumb</code> in the image markup (both cause the image to appear framed with space for a image description). <br>
+BTW: thanks for the upgrade (and for adding the extensions)! <br>
+--[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 12:40, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
+== Issues in MW 1.35 ==
+I observe some '''extra space after external links''' <span style="background:#eee">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placeholder Placeholder]</span> that is not added for interwiki links <span style="background:#eee">[[Wikipedia:Placeholder]]</span> or internal links <span style="background:#eee">[[Help:Links]]</span>. Any idea what could have caused this? I don't remember if we had '''background images'''<sup>?</sup> for external links before. If yes then maybe something has changed in the '''image path'''<sup>?</sup> so that the '''CSS is pointing to wrong places'''<sup>?</sup> now. This could as well explain why we lost the '''order indicator icons''' for sorted tables and the expand '''icons for bundled changes''' in the recent changes list. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 19:46, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
+: I'm relatively sure that [[mw:Extension:WikiEditor]] is missing now, it provides the edit toolbar. It scan but should not be confused with the visual editor. I'm not sure is this is a new config requirement in 1.35 (I know from another wiki that it is necessary, and the toolbar gives much more support that the former one: quoting, special chars and so on). I guess that there was a rudimentary built-in solution before that has gone now. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 21:29, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
+== Maintenance bot ==
+Hi Tyler, I asked Xenwolf a question (see [[User talk:Xenwolf#Maintenance_bot]]) and he said you were probably the right person to ask!
+I notice that we sometimes do manual cleaning which could be automated by bots, such as fixing double redirects. I stumbled upon this yesterday: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/redirect.py
+Do you think there's a chance it could be installed on this wiki? Unless there's already something similar available that I don't know of yet? --[[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 05:05, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
+== Extensions ==
+Hi Tyler! I'd like to request a few extensions:
+* [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Purge|Extension:Purge]]. This one is useful when you've working on a template or a Lua module and test your changes on some page. Using a purge button instead of making a null edit saves both clicks and page load time.
+* [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:TemplateStyles|Extension:TemplateStyles]]. This one is useful when you need some custom CSS rules which can't be put into <code>style="..."</code> but aren't important enough to go into the global [[MediaWiki:Common.css]].
+* [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Gadgets|Extension:Gadgets]]. This one is useful for organising JS things like my WIP [[User:Plumtree/Sound|in-browser sound generation project]].
+* [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Semantic MediaWiki|Extension:Semantic MediaWiki]]. This one is a powerful upgrade of the category system. With SMW, you can assign properties to pages, query complex conditions based on those properties and categories and output the result in a highly customisable way. But it might be a bit more tricky to install.
+* [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:NativeSvgHandler|Extension:NativeSvgHandler]]. This one serves SVGs as SVGs without server-side rendering into PNGs with horrible resolution.
+Additionally, most interval pages link to [[xen-calc]] and ConfirmEdit triggers when such a link is added by a template. Could you [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:ConfirmEdit#URL_and_IP_whitelists|add it to exceptions]] or [[Special:Interwiki|configure an interwiki]]?
+[[User:Plumtree|Plumtree]] ([[User talk:Plumtree|talk]]) 13:55, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
+== Extensions (2024) ==
+I'd like to request the tabber extension to be added: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TabberNeue
+Such an extension would allow for multiple sections' worth of similar information to be condensed into a single section. More to the point, pages such as this ([[5L 2s]]) have multiple tuning subsections that can be further condensed into one section, thus saving space and better organizing page information. (For an outside example, consider this RS Wiki page and its use of the tabber extension: https://runescape.wiki/w/Arch-Glacor/Strategies)
+Thank you for your consideration.
+[[User:Ganaram inukshuk|Ganaram inukshuk]] ([[User talk:Ganaram inukshuk|talk]]) 04:25, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
+== Google ranking ==
+It seems like in the past few weeks, the wiki has not been showing up in revelant Google searches. Other search engines seem unaffected.
+It's unclear what has caused this, but if I had to guess, we are likely being flagged by some automatic system on their end.
+I'm not sure what the proper course of action is, since Google's algorithms are (intentionally) opaque.
+However, there are some tools in the [https://search.google.com/search-console/welcome|Google Search Console] that may reveal issues.
+To use these tools you need to prove you are the domain owner though, so I think you are the only one who can access them.
+It would be nice to know if there are some actions we can take improve the situation.
+[[User:Sintel|Sintel]] ([[User talk:Sintel|talk]]) 18:17, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
+: Yes it looks like it drops off starting Jan 21. I am looking into it. [[User:Tyler Henthorn|Tyler Henthorn]] ([[User talk:Tyler Henthorn|talk]]) 04:07, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
+:: I've implemented a fix. Thank you for pointing this out [[User:Tyler Henthorn|Tyler Henthorn]] ([[User talk:Tyler Henthorn|talk]]) 05:20, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
+::: Some time has passed and it doesn't seem like it has resolved. Is there anything we can do? – [[User:Sintel|<span style="color:#965d99">Sintel</span>🎏]] ([[User_talk:Sintel|talk]]) 21:54, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
+::: (The main page is listed on google, but none of the other pages are as far as I can tell) [[User:Hkm|hkm]] ([[User talk:Hkm|talk]]) 22:28, 20 March 2025 (UTC)