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A '''subfifth''', '''infrafifth''' or '''semidiminished fifth''' is an [[interval]] that spans four steps of the [[5L 2s|diatonic]] scale with a quality between diminished and perfect. It exists in [[neutralization|neutralized]] diatonic scales as exactly one half of a minor ninth.  
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">A Subfifth is a term for an awkward interval range that is too narrow to be perfect fifth, yet too wide to be a conventional tritone. It is a peculiar interval in that it has a range of producing a massive amount of overtones to the point of heavily distorting the timbre of any instrument that it is played on. The interval is normally considered a[[16_11| 16/11]] and is quite harsh regardless of timbre, but some are worse than others. Regardless of what the name suggests, a subfifth isn't really a type of perfect fifth but rather can be thought of as related to the tritone, however, the interval really is a class in it's own right.  


The subfifth has a xen appeal because it is a sound that is so far from anything possible in 12 ET or 5 limit JI that it resembles the very essence of the term "out of tune". Anyone who does not enjoy rough intervals will hate this interval range with a passion. This is for those who can find beauty in the harsh and dissonant.
In [[just intonation]], an interval may be classified as a subfifth if it is reasonably mapped to [[7edo|4\7]] and [[24edo|13\24]] (precisely four steps of the diatonic scale and six and a half steps of the chromatic scale).


See 16/11 </pre></div>
As a concrete [[interval region]], it is typically near 650{{cent}} in size. It is too narrow to sound like a [[perfect fifth]] and too wide to sound like a [[tritone]]. [[Margo Schulter]], in her article [http://www.bestii.com/%7Emschulter/IntervalSpectrumRegions.txt Regions of the Interval Spectrum], proposes an approximate range for a subfifth to be from 640{{cent}} to 672{{cent}}. Of course, this categorization should not be taken for granted. Since music is subjective and culturally influenced, the borders of what is a superfourth are "fuzzy". Other descriptions are possible and legitimate.
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Subfifth&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;A Subfifth is a term for an awkward interval range that is too narrow to be perfect fifth, yet too wide to be a conventional tritone. It is a peculiar interval in that it has a range of producing a massive amount of overtones to the point of heavily distorting the timbre of any instrument that it is played on. The interval is normally considered a&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/16_11"&gt; 16/11&lt;/a&gt; and is quite harsh regardless of timbre, but some are worse than others. Regardless of what the name suggests, a subfifth isn't really a type of perfect fifth but rather can be thought of as related to the tritone, however, the interval really is a class in it's own right. &lt;br /&gt;
Some of the simplest subfifths in [[just intonation]] are [[16/11]] (about 649{{c}}) and [[22/15]] (about 663{{c}}), both undecimal (11-based) subfifths; and [[35/24]] (about 653{{c}}) and [[72/49]] (about 666{{c}}), both septimal (7-based) subfifths.
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The subfifth has a xen appeal because it is a sound that is so far from anything possible in 12 ET or 5 limit JI that it resembles the very essence of the term &amp;quot;out of tune&amp;quot;. Anyone who does not enjoy rough intervals will hate this interval range with a passion. This is for those who can find beauty in the harsh and dissonant.&lt;br /&gt;
Information about subfifths in the conventional interval region format may be found at [[Tritone]].
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See 16/11&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
The inversion of a subfifth is a [[superfourth]].
 
== See also ==
* [[Superfourth]] – the [[octave complement]] region
 
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A subfifth, infrafifth or semidiminished fifth is an interval that spans four steps of the diatonic scale with a quality between diminished and perfect. It exists in neutralized diatonic scales as exactly one half of a minor ninth.

In just intonation, an interval may be classified as a subfifth if it is reasonably mapped to 4\7 and 13\24 (precisely four steps of the diatonic scale and six and a half steps of the chromatic scale).

As a concrete interval region, it is typically near 650 ¢ in size. It is too narrow to sound like a perfect fifth and too wide to sound like a tritone. Margo Schulter, in her article Regions of the Interval Spectrum, proposes an approximate range for a subfifth to be from 640 ¢ to 672 ¢. Of course, this categorization should not be taken for granted. Since music is subjective and culturally influenced, the borders of what is a superfourth are "fuzzy". Other descriptions are possible and legitimate.

Some of the simplest subfifths in just intonation are 16/11 (about 649 ¢) and 22/15 (about 663 ¢), both undecimal (11-based) subfifths; and 35/24 (about 653 ¢) and 72/49 (about 666 ¢), both septimal (7-based) subfifths.

Information about subfifths in the conventional interval region format may be found at Tritone.

The inversion of a subfifth is a superfourth.

See also


View • Talk • EditInterval classification
Interval regions
Unison and octave Unison • Comma and diesis • Octave
Seconds Minor second • Neutral second • Major second
Thirds Minor third • Neutral third • Major third
Fourths and fifths Perfect fourth • Superfourth • Tritone • Subfifth • Perfect fifth
Sixths Minor sixth • Neutral sixth • Major sixth
Sevenths Minor seventh • Neutral seventh • Major seventh
Interseptimal intervals Interseptimal 2nd-3rd • Interseptimal 3rd-4th • Interseptimal 5th-6th • Interseptimal 6th-7th
Interval qualities
Diatonic qualities Diminished • Minor • Perfect • Major • Augmented
Tuning ranges Neutral (interval quality) • Submajor and supraminor • Pental major and minor • Novamajor and novaminor • Neogothic major and minor • Supermajor and subminor • Ultramajor and inframinor