User talk:CritDeathX

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Hi Sam,
I saw that you - seemingly - tried to add categories to the see-also section within the wiki page (on 19/11 and 22/19). This is not possible this way. It is possible to add links to categories by prefix the word category by a colon (for example, [[:category:Interseptimal]] gives category:Interseptimal), but most category pages are not really informative ...
Best regards --Xenwolf (talk) 17:44, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

I don't remember adding anything to the see-also section? The only things I remember doing on those pages are adding the colour name for 19/11 and adding a hyperlink to the Godzilla page on 22/19. If I had done that and I don't remember, then I'm sorry and I'll make sure to remember that. || --CritDeathX (talk) 21:39, 18 April 2020 (UTC) ||

You are welcome. Here is one of the changes "you" made. To me it seems likely being an issue in the visual editor. --Xenwolf (talk) 07:37, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Message ID

How did you find the message here? I tried the same yesterday for another article with no success. I was wondering if the original message IDs were present in the archive data and could be automatically provided through the view? --Xenwolf (talk) 06:35, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

PS: and of course, a big thanks for this kind of work. 😊 --Xenwolf (talk) 06:36, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

As I saw, the original message IDs are available. In the case I mentioned, you obviously did some archeology to correct the original references which seem indeed incorrect. --Xenwolf (talk) 11:58, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the appreciation! I believe that the original IDs seem to not correlate to the archive's IDs, which makes it a slight pain in the butt. I might ask the person who made the archive to add a search function to make finding past messages easier. --CritDeathX (talk) 08:04, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
You might be interested in the zip Archive available on I did some local searches on my lasktop (if you are on Windows, Notepad++ and Grepwin are great helpers). --Xenwolf (talk) 10:29, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
I forgot (at least) on thing: Special:LinkSearch is one more great tool for wiki gardening it lists pages with external links that match a given pattern. --Xenwolf (talk) 10:55, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Ah, thank you for directing me to that ZIP file there. I had kinda stumbled on that a bit ago, but I didn't think it would actually be useful. I'll try downloading it and see if searching for messages are easier that way. --CritDeathX (talk) 15:00, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Update; thank you so much for showing me this. I actually love this soooooo much. I can't wait to find messages easier using this. --CritDeathX (talk) 15:36, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Glad I could help. 😊 --Xenwolf (talk) 15:45, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Notation terminology

Hi CritDeathX,
Some time ago, I made template:monzo for preventing people from typing <nowiki>|</nowiki>0 0 -1 1&gt; over and over again and to better show the intent. Now I remember that there is also the (seemingly) opposite notation <12 19 28 34| that could benefit from some support. But to make such a template, we I need the name of this notation. Do you know it?
Thanks in advance for your help.
--Xenwolf (talk) 07:00, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you speaking of template:val? Its the only thing I could think of looking like an opposite of a monzo. --CritDeathX (talk) 08:04, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, it has been created (even for me surprisingly) meanwhile by User:Cmloegcmluin --Xenwolf (talk) 10:37, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
I didn't even see that there! Guess I was late to the party by ~2 days. --CritDeathX (talk) 15:00, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
If you mean this: the Revision history of "Template:Val" - Xenharmonic Wiki is shown antichronological, so the starting point is at the end. 😉 --Xenwolf (talk) 10:08, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
PS: Now it seems to me that you didn't mean that at all. Well, anyway... --Xenwolf (talk) 10:11, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

How to indicate that contents is (or started as) a quote?

Hi CritDeathX,
I find that a horizontal line for separation (either as ------- or as <hr>) is perhaps not the best option. We could also use typography to separate the source from the rest of the text, maybe (also) a subtle indentation? Here are the three options so far:

  1. Magic22 as srutis
  2. 79MOS 159edo
  3. A shruti list

What so you think?
--Xenwolf (talk) 10:33, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me about this; I'm not entirely too familiar with how MediaWiki works (or other people, really), as I've never really edited for a wiki in general, so I apologize about my formatting. I think that option 3 might be a better option for this situation. --CritDeathX (talk) 11:56, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
No need to apologize, we all learn and *still* make mistakes! :-) --Xenwolf (talk) 13:17, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

The magic of internal links

Hi CritDeathX,
I hope not to bother: I saw on User:CritDeathX/Sam's Musings (no I didn't actually read it but this is now also on my todo list) that you used external link syntax for internal pages or files. I'd remember to change this when you find the time to unlock the What links here feature (access key j, in Firefox under Windows this is the hotkey [Alt]+[Shift]+[j]) on pages you linked. This is maybe not so important for "14edo#Titanium[9]" but for "File:Christopher(9) resolution.wav" because the file looks orphan to the wiki software (see Special:UnusedFiles and Special:LonelyPages) - BTW: I forgot to mention that I find all your contributions very valuable, thank you for taking all the time. Through your cooperation I am always discovering interesting content in these over 7000 pages. 🙂
Beat regards --Xenwolf (talk) 11:16, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for making me aware of this! I didn't think that it wouldn't work using hyperlinks, so I'll make sure to change it immediately.
Also, you're welcome! --CritDeathX (talk) 12:13, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Okay, uh, quick question; how do I tell the system that the file links back to my page? --CritDeathX (talk) 12:23, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
File usage is done by embedding a file (by typing [[File:Christopher(9) resolution.wav]] without the colon (:) after the opening double-bracket), whereas the What links here function is still aware of the backlink. --Xenwolf (talk) 13:13, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Alright, I actually fixed it now. Takes a while to learn how things work, don't it? --CritDeathX (talk) 13:24, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Well, but it's better to learn as we go... --Xenwolf (talk) 14:30, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

the dead link

Hi Sam,
great to see this and thanks! I already forgot about it: yesterday the whole site was [:wikipedia:HTTP 403]. So I was wondering if it could mean something really terrible. Fortunately, I was wrong. 🙂
--Xenwolf (talk) 13:29, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

No problemo! --CritDeathX (talk) 19:47, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

built-in subpage function

It may be interesting to you that you can get sub pages of a given page automatically, for example {{Special:Prefixindex|prefix=User:CritDeathX/|hideredirects=1|stripprefix=1}} produces

As to get sub pages of a page on that page, you can use {{Special:Prefixindex|prefix={{FULLPAGENAME}}/|hideredirects=1|stripprefix=1}} instead. The switches hideredirects and stripprefix can be omitted in case they are not set.

Best regards --Xenwolf (talk) 21:11, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
PS: I'm keen to get an audible impression of your 17-note-temperament.

Ah, thank you for telling me about that! I'd assume that it would look nicer than what I have so far. --CritDeathX (talk) 21:40, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
ps: id be happy to try and either retune a piece or make a piece to demonstrate that temperament if you would like

Retuned piece

Hi CritDeathX,
It is quite intereating to hear File:Thirteen Preludes No. 1, tuned to sam's 17-tone temperament.wav, I'm not able to check the quality of the retuning but am impressed by the speed at which you can deliver this kind of stuff. Let me share a few thoughts about retuning of existing (classical, mostly 12-EDO) pieces in general: I doubt that this process can give us a really valid demonstration of the potential of a given tuning/temperament for two reasons: 1) The timbre will be unaffected and 2) the composition (kind of) "lives" in the 12-EDO world. As for the actual piece, I must admit that it's too fast for me as to value the tuning/temperament.
I hope my comments will not discourage you but instead help you in further exploring your 17-note Well Temperament.
Best regards --Xenwolf (talk) 05:03, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, that's some fair points. I'll see if maybe an original work can do justice for this tuning. Thank you for your thoughts. --CritDeathX (talk) 16:51, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Closed Up

Congratulations! Closed Up is an interesting composition (and hopefully just an opening!), it makes me curious for more. Reminds me of The Book of Sounds by Hans Otte (see also Hans Otte - Wikipedia). --Xenwolf (talk) 21:54, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you a bunch! Admittedly, I didn't think of this as an opening, but rather more of a soundworld, if that makes sense. I will consider making more pieces in this tuning (and more well temperaments too!). --CritDeathX (talk) 23:23, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

internal links ...

... get the capitalization of the first letter for free. So (provided the titles are well-chosen) it's possible to link without any extra effort for instance cent (here in the text written with lowercase c, but at the target capitalized). Hope that helps a bit in everyday editing. --Xenwolf (talk) 06:53, 27 July 2020 (UTC)