17/12

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Interval information
Ratio 17/12
Subgroup monzo 2.3.17 [-2 -1 1
Size in cents 603.0004¢
Name larger septendecimal tritone
Color name 17o5, iso 5th
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{d5}^{17} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney height (log2 nd) 7.67243
Weil height (log2 max(n, d)) 8.17493
Wilson height (sopfr(nd)) 24

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In 17-limit just intonation, 17/12 is the larger septendecimal tritone, measuring very nearly 603¢. Its inversion is the smaller septendecimal tritone, 24/17, and the interval that separates them is the small comma 289/288, about 6¢. This difference is usually negligible, and tempering out this comma allows the 600¢ half-octave to function as both septendecimal tritones. Thus, every even-numbered edo system contains a close approximation to these intervals.

17/12 is the mediant between the two septimal tritones 7/5 and 10/7.

Terminology and notation

There exists a disagreement in different conceptualization systems on whether 17/12 should be an augmented fourth or a diminished fifth. In Functional Just System, it is a diminished fifth, separated by 4131/4096 from 1024/729, the Pythagorean diminished fifth In Helmholtz-Ellis notation, it is an augmented fourth, separated by 2187/2176 from 729/512, the Pythagorean augmented fourth. The term "large septendecimal tritone" omits the distinction and only describes its melodic property i.e. the size.

In practice, the interval category may, arguably, vary by context. One solution for the JI user who uses expanded circle-of-fifths notation is to prepare a Pythagorean comma accidental so that the interval can be notated in either category.

See also