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'''9 EDO''' divides the octave into nine equal parts each of 133+1/3 [[cent]]s precisely. It is also the first odd composite | '''9 EDO''' divides the octave into nine equal parts each of 133+1/3 [[cent]]s precisely. It is also the first odd composite EDO. | ||
== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
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! colspan="2" | [[nearest | ! colspan="2" | [[Patent val|nearest EDO-mapping]] | ||
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The | The 9EDO scale has the peculiar property of representing certain [[7-limit]] intervals almost exactly. A 7-limit version of 9EDO goes | ||
1: 27/25 133.238 large limma, BP small semitone | 1: 27/25 133.238 large limma, BP small semitone | ||
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Here the characterizations are taken from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scala_%28program%29 Scala], which also describes the scale itself as "Pelog Nawanada: Sunda". Chords such as 1/1 - 7/6 - 49/36 - 12/7 are therefore natural ones for 9EDO. The above scale generates the [[Just_intonation_subgroups|just intonation subgroup]] 2.27/25.7/3, which is closely related to 9EDO. | Here the characterizations are taken from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scala_%28program%29 Scala], which also describes the scale itself as "Pelog Nawanada: Sunda". Chords such as 1/1 - 7/6 - 49/36 - 12/7 are therefore natural ones for 9EDO. The above scale generates the [[Just_intonation_subgroups|just intonation subgroup]] 2.27/25.7/3, which is closely related to 9EDO. | ||
=== Differences between distributionally-even scales and smaller | === Differences between distributionally-even scales and smaller EDOs === | ||
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|2 | | 2 | ||
|66.666¢ | | 66.666¢ | ||
| -66.666¢ | | -66.666¢ | ||
|- | |- | ||
|4 | | 4 | ||
|100¢ | | 100¢ | ||
| -33.333¢ | | -33.333¢ | ||
|- | |- | ||
|5 | | 5 | ||
|26.667¢ | | 26.667¢ | ||
| -106.667¢ | | -106.667¢ | ||
|- | |- | ||
|6 | | 6 | ||
|66.666¢ | | 66.666¢ | ||
| -66.666¢ | | -66.666¢ | ||
|- | |- | ||
|7 | | 7 | ||
|95.238¢ | | 95.238¢ | ||
| -38.095¢ | | -38.095¢ | ||
|- | |- | ||
|8 | | 8 | ||
|116.667¢ | | 116.667¢ | ||
| -16.667¢ | | -16.667¢ | ||
|} | |} | ||
== Notation == | == Notation == | ||
9EDO can be notated with conventional notation, including the staff, note names, relative notation, etc. in two ways. The first preserves the <u>melodic</u> meaning of sharp/flat, major/minor and aug/dim, in that sharp is higher pitched than flat, and major/aug is wider than minor/dim. The disadvantage to this approach is that conventional interval arithmetic no longer works. e.g. M2 + M2 isn't M3, and D + M2 isn't E. Chord names are different because C - E - G isn't P1 - M3 - P5. | |||
The second approach preserves the <u>harmonic</u> meaning of sharp/flat, major/minor and aug/dim, in that the former is always further fifthwards on the chain of fifths than the latter. Sharp is lower in pitch than flat, and major/aug is narrower than minor/dim. While this approach may seem bizarre at first, interval arithmetic and chord names work as usual. Furthermore, conventional 12EDO music can be directly translated to 9EDO "on the fly". | |||
The second approach preserves the <u>harmonic</u> meaning of sharp/flat, major/minor and aug/dim, in that the former is always further fifthwards on the chain of fifths than the latter. Sharp is lower in pitch than flat, and major/aug is narrower than minor/dim. While this approach may seem bizarre at first, interval arithmetic and chord names work as usual. Furthermore, conventional | |||
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== Commas == | == Commas == | ||
9EDO [[tempers out]] the following [[comma]]s. (Note: This assumes [[val]] {{val| 9 14 21 25 31 33 }}.) | |||
{| class="commatable wikitable center-all left-3 right-4 left-6" | {| class="commatable wikitable center-all left-3 right-4 left-6" | ||
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9EDO contains a pentatonic [[MOSScales|MOS scale]] -- 2L 3s (1 3 1 3 1) -- with a heptatonic extension -- 2L 5s (1 1 2 1 1 2 1, sometimes called "mavila" or "antidiatonic"). Indonesian pelog scales sometimes use five-tone subsets of a seven-tone superset in a similar way, and it has been suggested that Indonesian gamelan music stems from a [http://www.neuroscience-of-music.se/pelog%20historical.htm 9EDO tradition]. | 9EDO contains a pentatonic [[MOSScales|MOS scale]] -- 2L 3s (1 3 1 3 1) -- with a heptatonic extension -- 2L 5s (1 1 2 1 1 2 1, sometimes called "mavila" or "antidiatonic"). Indonesian pelog scales sometimes use five-tone subsets of a seven-tone superset in a similar way, and it has been suggested that Indonesian gamelan music stems from a [http://www.neuroscience-of-music.se/pelog%20historical.htm 9EDO tradition]. | ||
==Pathological Modes== | == Pathological Modes== | ||
2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 [[1L 7s]] MOS | 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 [[1L 7s]] MOS | ||
== Selected Just Intervals == | == Selected Just Intervals == | ||
[[File:9ed2-001.svg|alt=alt : Your browser has no SVG support.]] | [[File:9ed2-001.svg|alt=alt : Your browser has no SVG support.]] | ||
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== Images == | == Images == | ||
[[File:9edo_wheel.png|alt=9edo wheel.png|385x385px|9edo wheel.png]] | [[File:9edo_wheel.png|alt=9edo wheel.png|385x385px|9edo wheel.png]] | ||
== Instruments == | == Instruments == | ||
[[File:IMG_2223-800x600.jpg|alt=IMG_2223-800x600.jpg|400px|IMG_2223-800x600.jpg]] | [[File:IMG_2223-800x600.jpg|alt=IMG_2223-800x600.jpg|400px|IMG_2223-800x600.jpg]] | ||
Ukulele (MicroUke 1.2) set to | Ukulele (MicroUke 1.2) set to 9EDO with 40 lb. test fishing line (by cenobyte) | ||
== Music == | == Music == | ||
* [https://soundcloud.com/overtoneshock/tencaious-chorale-9-edo-studio-version Tenacious Chorale (only movement I is in 9EDO)] by [[Stephen Weigel]] | |||
* [https://soundcloud.com/overtoneshock/tencaious-chorale-9-edo-studio-version Tenacious Chorale (only movement I is in | |||
* [https://soundcloud.com/overtoneshock/in-our-own-little-worlds-9-edo Zones of Lasting Novelty] (Un12 2019) by [[Stephen Weigel]]; perf. [[Hans Gunter-Lock]], [[Jacob Barton]], and Stephen Weigel | * [https://soundcloud.com/overtoneshock/in-our-own-little-worlds-9-edo Zones of Lasting Novelty] (Un12 2019) by [[Stephen Weigel]]; perf. [[Hans Gunter-Lock]], [[Jacob Barton]], and Stephen Weigel | ||
* [https://soundcloud.com/overtoneshock/gamelan-genesis-and-birth-9-edo Gamelan, Origin, Creation] by Stephen Weigel ([http://www.beostringquartet.com/ Beo String Quartet], dedicated to [[wikipedia:Lou_Harrison|Lou Harrison]]) | * [https://soundcloud.com/overtoneshock/gamelan-genesis-and-birth-9-edo Gamelan, Origin, Creation] by Stephen Weigel ([http://www.beostringquartet.com/ Beo String Quartet], dedicated to [[wikipedia:Lou_Harrison|Lou Harrison]]) | ||
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* [https://tabytha.bandcamp.com/track/69-pentangled 69 Pentangled] by [https://tabytha.bandcamp.com/album/bad-musick Tabytha] | * [https://tabytha.bandcamp.com/track/69-pentangled 69 Pentangled] by [https://tabytha.bandcamp.com/album/bad-musick Tabytha] | ||
* Nocturne in | * Nocturne in 9EDO by [http://home.snafu.de/djwolf/WorksDescriptive.htm Daniel Wolf] | ||
* ''[http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/Prelude9ET.mp3 Prelude in 9ET]'' by [[Aaron Andrew Hunt]] | * ''[http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/Prelude9ET.mp3 Prelude in 9ET]'' by [[Aaron Andrew Hunt]] | ||
* ''[http://micro.soonlabel.com/9-edo/daily20110629_fts_e_guit_9et.mp3 Improvisation for Electric Guitar in | * ''[http://micro.soonlabel.com/9-edo/daily20110629_fts_e_guit_9et.mp3 Improvisation for Electric Guitar in 9EDO]'' by [[Chris Vaisvil]] | ||
* [http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Winchester/08%20-%208.%209%20octave.mp3 Comets Over Flatland 8] by [[Randy Winchester]] | * [http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Winchester/08%20-%208.%209%20octave.mp3 Comets Over Flatland 8] by [[Randy Winchester]] | ||
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDFCsCoaUO4 Nine tones per Octave (9-EDO / 9-TET)] by [[Ivor Darreg]] | * [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDFCsCoaUO4 Nine tones per Octave (9-EDO / 9-TET)] by [[Ivor Darreg]] | ||
* [http://micro.soonlabel.com/9-edo/daily20111008b_gerbils_at_the_wheel_of_government.mp3 Gerbils at the Wheel of Government] by [[Chris Vaisvil]] (in 9 and 18 | * [http://micro.soonlabel.com/9-edo/daily20111008b_gerbils_at_the_wheel_of_government.mp3 Gerbils at the Wheel of Government] by [[Chris Vaisvil]] (in 9 and 18 EDOsimultaneously) | ||
* [http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/NewWorld.mp3 New World] by [[Carlo Serafini]] ([http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/f533be803cb9ed1efc23fc9e2db10c6f-167.html blog entry]) | * [http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/NewWorld.mp3 New World] by [[Carlo Serafini]] ([http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/f533be803cb9ed1efc23fc9e2db10c6f-167.html blog entry]) | ||
* [https://soundcloud.com/santiagocosentino/interdimensional-train-ride Interdimensional Train Ride by Santiago Cosentino] | * [https://soundcloud.com/santiagocosentino/interdimensional-train-ride Interdimensional Train Ride by Santiago Cosentino] | ||
== Ear Training == | == Ear Training == | ||
9EDO ear-training exercises by Alex Ness available [https://drive.google.com/a/playgroundsessions.com/folderview?id=0BwsXD8q2VCYUamtVWEgyRFA5alU&usp=sharing#list here]. | |||
[[Category:9-tone]] | [[Category:9-tone]] | ||
[[Category:9edo]] | [[Category:9edo| ]] | ||
[[Category:Equal divisions of the octave]] | [[Category:Equal divisions of the octave]] | ||
[[Category:Listen]] | [[Category:Listen]] | ||
[[Category:Macrotonal]] | [[Category:Macrotonal]] | ||
Revision as of 14:08, 13 October 2021
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9 EDO divides the octave into nine equal parts each of 133+1/3 cents precisely. It is also the first odd composite EDO.
Theory
| prime 2 | prime 3 | prime 5 | prime 7 | prime 11 | prime 13 | prime 17 | prime 19 | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| error | absolute (¢) | 0.0 | -35.3 | +13.7 | -35.5 | -18.0 | -40.5 | +28.4 | -30.8 |
| relative (%) | 0 | -26 | +10 | -27 | -13 | -30 | +21 | -23 | |
| nearest EDO-mapping | 9 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 4 | 6 | 1 | 2 | |
| fifthspan | 0 | +1 | -3 | -4 | -1 | +3 | +2 | +4 | |
The 9EDO scale has the peculiar property of representing certain 7-limit intervals almost exactly. A 7-limit version of 9EDO goes
1: 27/25 133.238 large limma, BP small semitone
2: 7/6 266.871 septimal minor third
3: 63/50 400.108 quasi-equal major third
4: 49/36 533.742 Arabic lute acute fourth
5: 72/49 666.258 Arabic lute grave fifth
6: 100/63 799.892 quasi-equal minor sixth
7: 12/7 933.129 septimal major sixth
8: 50/27 1066.762 grave major seventh
9: 2/1 1200.000 octave
Here the characterizations are taken from Scala, which also describes the scale itself as "Pelog Nawanada: Sunda". Chords such as 1/1 - 7/6 - 49/36 - 12/7 are therefore natural ones for 9EDO. The above scale generates the just intonation subgroup 2.27/25.7/3, which is closely related to 9EDO.
Differences between distributionally-even scales and smaller EDOs
| N | L-Nedo | s-Nedo |
|---|---|---|
| 2 | 66.666¢ | -66.666¢ |
| 4 | 100¢ | -33.333¢ |
| 5 | 26.667¢ | -106.667¢ |
| 6 | 66.666¢ | -66.666¢ |
| 7 | 95.238¢ | -38.095¢ |
| 8 | 116.667¢ | -16.667¢ |
Notation
9EDO can be notated with conventional notation, including the staff, note names, relative notation, etc. in two ways. The first preserves the melodic meaning of sharp/flat, major/minor and aug/dim, in that sharp is higher pitched than flat, and major/aug is wider than minor/dim. The disadvantage to this approach is that conventional interval arithmetic no longer works. e.g. M2 + M2 isn't M3, and D + M2 isn't E. Chord names are different because C - E - G isn't P1 - M3 - P5.
The second approach preserves the harmonic meaning of sharp/flat, major/minor and aug/dim, in that the former is always further fifthwards on the chain of fifths than the latter. Sharp is lower in pitch than flat, and major/aug is narrower than minor/dim. While this approach may seem bizarre at first, interval arithmetic and chord names work as usual. Furthermore, conventional 12EDO music can be directly translated to 9EDO "on the fly".
| degree | cents | Approximate Ratios |
Melodic notation Major wider than minor |
Harmonic notation Major narrower than minor | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0 | 0.00 | 1/1 | perfect unison | D | perfect unison | D |
| 1 | 133.33 | 14/13, 13/12, 12/11 | minor 2nd | E | major 2nd | E |
| 2 | 266.67 | 7/6 | major 2nd, minor 3rd | E#, Fb | minor 2nd, major 3rd | Eb, F# |
| 3 | 400.00 | 5/4, 14/11, 9/7 | major 3rd | F | minor 3rd | F |
| 4 | 533.33 | 4/3, 11/8 | perfect 4th | G | perfect 4th | G |
| 5 | 666.67 | 16/11, 3/2 | perfect 5th | A | perfect 5th | A |
| 6 | 800.00 | 14/9, 11/7, 8/5 | minor 6th | B | major 6th | B |
| 7 | 933.33 | 12/7 | major 6th, minor 7th | B#, Cb | minor 6th, major 7th | Bb, C# |
| 8 | 1066.67 | 11/6, 13/7 | major 7th | C | minor 7th | C |
| 9 | 1200.00 | 2/1 | octave | D | octave | D |
Commas
9EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes val ⟨9 14 21 25 31 33].)
| Prime Limit |
Ratio[1] | Monzo | Cents | Color name | Name(s) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5 | 27/25 | [0 3 -2⟩ | 133.24 | Gugu | Large Limma, Large Semitone, Bug Comma |
| 5 | 135/128 | [-7 3 1⟩ | 92.18 | Layobi | Major Chroma, Major Limma, Pelogic Comma |
| 5 | 16875/16384 | [-14 3 4⟩ | 51.12 | Laquadyo | Negri Comma, Double Augmentation Diesis |
| 5 | 128/125 | [7 0 -3⟩ | 41.06 | Trigu | Diesis, Augmented Comma |
| 5 | (14 digits) | [-21 3 7⟩ | 10.06 | Lasepyo | Semicomma, Fokker Comma |
| 7 | 36/35 | [2 2 -1 -1⟩ | 48.77 | Rugu | Septimal Quarter Tone |
| 7 | 525/512 | [-9 1 2 1⟩ | 43.41 | Lazoyoyo | Avicenna, Avicenna's Enharmonic Diesis |
| 7 | 49/48 | [-4 -1 0 2⟩ | 35.70 | Zozo | Slendro Diesis |
| 7 | 686/675 | [1 -3 -2 3⟩ | 27.99 | Trizo-agugu | Senga |
| 7 | 2430/2401 | [1 5 1 -4⟩ | 20.79 | Quadru-ayo | Nuwell |
| 7 | 1728/1715 | [6 3 -1 -3⟩ | 13.07 | Triru-agu | Orwellisma, Orwell Comma |
| 7 | 225/224 | [-5 2 2 -1⟩ | 7.71 | Ruyoyo | Septimal Kleisma, Marvel Comma |
| 7 | 6144/6125 | [11 1 -3 -2⟩ | 5.36 | Sarurutrigu | Porwell |
| 7 | 65625/65536 | [-16 1 5 1⟩ | 2.35 | Lazoquinyo | Horwell |
| 11 | 99/98 | [-1 2 0 -2 1⟩ | 17.58 | Loruru | Mothwellsma |
| 11 | 121/120 | [-3 -1 -1 0 2⟩ | 14.37 | Lologu | Biyatisma |
| 11 | 176/175 | [4 0 -2 -1 1⟩ | 9.86 | Lorugugu | Valinorsma |
| 11 | 385/384 | [-7 -1 1 1 1⟩ | 4.50 | Lozoyo | Keenanisma |
| 11 | 540/539 | [2 3 1 -2 -1⟩ | 3.21 | Lururuyo | Swetisma |
| 13 | 91/90 | [-1 -2 -1 1 0 1⟩ | 19.13 | Thozogu | Superleap |
| 13 | 676/675 | [2 -3 -2 0 0 2⟩ | 2.56 | Bithogu | Parizeksma |
- ↑ Ratios longer than 10 digits are presented by placeholders with informative hints
Linear temperaments
9EDO contains a pentatonic MOS scale -- 2L 3s (1 3 1 3 1) -- with a heptatonic extension -- 2L 5s (1 1 2 1 1 2 1, sometimes called "mavila" or "antidiatonic"). Indonesian pelog scales sometimes use five-tone subsets of a seven-tone superset in a similar way, and it has been suggested that Indonesian gamelan music stems from a 9EDO tradition.
Pathological Modes
2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1L 7s MOS
Selected Just Intervals
Images
Instruments
Ukulele (MicroUke 1.2) set to 9EDO with 40 lb. test fishing line (by cenobyte)
Music
- Tenacious Chorale (only movement I is in 9EDO) by Stephen Weigel
- Zones of Lasting Novelty (Un12 2019) by Stephen Weigel; perf. Hans Gunter-Lock, Jacob Barton, and Stephen Weigel
- Gamelan, Origin, Creation by Stephen Weigel (Beo String Quartet, dedicated to Lou Harrison)
- 69 by Tabytha
- 69 Pentangled by Tabytha
- Nocturne in 9EDO by Daniel Wolf
- Prelude in 9ET by Aaron Andrew Hunt
- Improvisation for Electric Guitar in 9EDO by Chris Vaisvil
- Comets Over Flatland 8 by Randy Winchester
- Nine tones per Octave (9-EDO / 9-TET) by Ivor Darreg
- Gerbils at the Wheel of Government by Chris Vaisvil (in 9 and 18 EDOsimultaneously)
- New World by Carlo Serafini (blog entry)
- Interdimensional Train Ride by Santiago Cosentino
Ear Training
9EDO ear-training exercises by Alex Ness available here.