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#redirect [[Archytas clan #Quasisuper]]
{{Infobox Regtemp
| Title = Quasisuper; quasisupra
| Subgroups = 2.3.5.7, 2.3.5.7.11
| Comma basis = [[64/63]], [[2430/2401]] (7-limit);<br>[[64/63]], [[99/98]], [[121/120]] (11-limit)
| Edo join 1 = 17c | Edo join 2 = 22
| Mapping = 1; 1 -13 -2 -6
| Generator = 3/2
| Generator tuning = 708.3
| Optimization method = CWE
| MOS scales = [[5L 2s]], [[5L 7s]], [[5L 12s]]
| Pergen = (P8, P5)
| Color name = Sasaguti
| Odd limit 1 = 9 | Mistuning 1 = 13.7 | Complexity 1 = 17
| Odd limit 2 = (11-limit) 15 | Mistuning 2 =  | Complexity 2 = 17
}}
'''Quasisuper''' is an alternative extension of [[2.3.7 subgroup|2.3.7]] [[archy]] to prime [[5/1|5]]. This extension maps prime 5 to -13 [[generator]]s, as a double-diminished fifth (C–G𝄫). This extension works in the range [[17edo|17c-edo]] to [[22edo|22-edo]]. In contrast, full 7-limit [[superpyth]] does not work in this range, as tunings with a flatter fifth than 22edo swap the sizes of [[7/5]] and [[10/7]]. This extension may be preferred over superpyth due to having a softer [[5L 2s|diatonic]] scale, with a small step of around 60 [[cent]]s compared to about 50 cents in regular 7-limit superpyth. The best extension to the [[11-limit]], '''quasisupra''', uses the [[supra]] mapping of prime [[11/1|11]] to -6 generators, as a diminished fifth (C–G♭). This tempers out [[99/98]] as in supra, as well as [[121/120]] and [[540/539]].
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== Interval chain ==
In the following table, odd harmonics and subharmonics 1–15 are in '''bold'''.
 
{| class="wikitable"
|+ style="font-size: 105%" | Intervals of quasisupra (11-limit)
! Generators
! Cents*
! Intervals
|-
| 0
| 0.0
| '''1/1'''
|-
| 1
| 708.3
| '''3/2'''
|-
| 2
| 216.6
| '''8/7''', '''9/8'''
|-
| 3
| 925.0
| 12/7
|-
| 4
| 433.3
| 9/7, 14/11
|-
| 5
| 1141.6
| 27/14, 21/11
|-
| 6
| 649.9
| '''16/11''', 22/15
|-
| 7
| 158.2
| 12/11, 11/10
|-
| 8
| 866.6
| 18/11
|-
| 9
| 374.9
| 27/22, 56/45
|-
| 10
| 1083.2
| 28/15
|-
| 11
| 591.5
| 7/5
|-
| 12
| 99.8
| '''16/15'''
|-
| 13
| 808.2
| '''8/5'''
|-
| 14
| 316.5
| 6/5
|-
| 15
| 1024.8
| 9/5
|-
| 16
| 533.1
| 27/20
|-
| 17
| 41.4
| 81/80, 56/55
|}
<nowiki/>* in 11-limit [[CWE]] tuning, octave reduced
 
== Tunings ==
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Revision as of 10:46, 30 December 2025

Lua error in Module:Infobox_regtemp at line 138: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'generator_size' (a nil value). Quasisuper is an alternative extension of 2.3.7 archy to prime 5. This extension maps prime 5 to -13 generators, as a double-diminished fifth (C–G𝄫). This extension works in the range 17c-edo to 22-edo. In contrast, full 7-limit superpyth does not work in this range, as tunings with a flatter fifth than 22edo swap the sizes of 7/5 and 10/7. This extension may be preferred over superpyth due to having a softer diatonic scale, with a small step of around 60 cents compared to about 50 cents in regular 7-limit superpyth. The best extension to the 11-limit, quasisupra, uses the supra mapping of prime 11 to -6 generators, as a diminished fifth (C–G♭). This tempers out 99/98 as in supra, as well as 121/120 and 540/539.

Interval chain

In the following table, odd harmonics and subharmonics 1–15 are in bold.

Intervals of quasisupra (11-limit)
Generators Cents* Intervals
0 0.0 1/1
1 708.3 3/2
2 216.6 8/7, 9/8
3 925.0 12/7
4 433.3 9/7, 14/11
5 1141.6 27/14, 21/11
6 649.9 16/11, 22/15
7 158.2 12/11, 11/10
8 866.6 18/11
9 374.9 27/22, 56/45
10 1083.2 28/15
11 591.5 7/5
12 99.8 16/15
13 808.2 8/5
14 316.5 6/5
15 1024.8 9/5
16 533.1 27/20
17 41.4 81/80, 56/55

* in 11-limit CWE tuning, octave reduced

Tunings

Todo: complete section