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'''5L 4s''' refers to the structure of [[MOS]] scales with generators ranging from 1\5 (one degree of [[5edo]] = 240¢) to 2\9 (two degrees of [[9edo]] = 266.7¢). In the case of 9edo, L and s are the same size; in the case of 5edo, s becomes so small it disappears (and all that remains are the five equal L's). One suggested name for this pattern is '''hemidiatessaric''' (from Ancient Greek ''hemi'' 'half' + ''diatessaron'', the term for the perfect fourth in Ancient Greek music).
'''5L 4s''' refers to the structure of [[MOS]] scales with generators ranging from 1\5 (one degree of [[5edo]] = 240¢) to 2\9 (two degrees of [[9edo]] = 266.7¢). In the case of 9edo, L and s are the same size; in the case of 5edo, s becomes so small it disappears (and all that remains are the five equal L's). One suggested name for this pattern is '''hemidiatessaric''' or '''hemitess''' (from Ancient Greek ''hemi'' 'half' + ''diatessaron'', the term for the perfect fourth in Ancient Greek music).


The familiar harmonic entropy minimum with this MOS pattern is [[Meantone_family#Godzilla|godzilla]], in which a generator is [[8/7|8/7]] or [[7/6|7/6]] (tempered to be the same interval, or even 37/32 if you like) so two of them make a [[4/3|4/3]]. However, in addition to godzilla (tempering out 81/80) and the 2.3.7 temperament [[Chromatic_pairs#semaphore|semaphore]], there is also a weird scale called "[[Pseudo-semaphore|pseudo-semaphore]]", in which two different flavors of [[3/2|3/2]] exist in the same scale: an octave minus two generators makes a sharp 3/2, and two octaves minus seven generators makes a flat 3/2.
The familiar harmonic entropy minimum with this MOS pattern is [[Meantone_family#Godzilla|godzilla]], in which a generator is [[8/7|8/7]] or [[7/6|7/6]] (tempered to be the same interval, or even 37/32 if you like) so two of them make a [[4/3|4/3]]. However, in addition to godzilla (tempering out 81/80) and the 2.3.7 temperament [[Chromatic_pairs#semaphore|semaphore]], there is also a weird scale called "[[Pseudo-semaphore|pseudo-semaphore]]", in which two different flavors of [[3/2|3/2]] exist in the same scale: an octave minus two generators makes a sharp 3/2, and two octaves minus seven generators makes a flat 3/2.

Revision as of 19:02, 24 March 2021

5L 4s refers to the structure of MOS scales with generators ranging from 1\5 (one degree of 5edo = 240¢) to 2\9 (two degrees of 9edo = 266.7¢). In the case of 9edo, L and s are the same size; in the case of 5edo, s becomes so small it disappears (and all that remains are the five equal L's). One suggested name for this pattern is hemidiatessaric or hemitess (from Ancient Greek hemi 'half' + diatessaron, the term for the perfect fourth in Ancient Greek music).

The familiar harmonic entropy minimum with this MOS pattern is godzilla, in which a generator is 8/7 or 7/6 (tempered to be the same interval, or even 37/32 if you like) so two of them make a 4/3. However, in addition to godzilla (tempering out 81/80) and the 2.3.7 temperament semaphore, there is also a weird scale called "pseudo-semaphore", in which two different flavors of 3/2 exist in the same scale: an octave minus two generators makes a sharp 3/2, and two octaves minus seven generators makes a flat 3/2.

There are not really "good" temperament interpretations for 5L 4s scales except for semaphore or godzilla, but 5L 4s tunings can be divided into two major ranges:

  1. Semaphore generated by semifourths flatter than 3\14 (257.14¢). This implies a diatonic fifth.
    The generator could be viewed as a 15/13, and the resulting "ultramajor" chords and "inframinor" triads could be viewed as approximating 10:13:15 and 26:30:39. See Arto and Tendo Theory.
  2. Superpelog, or bug, generated by semifourths sharper than 3\14 (257.14¢). This implies a "mavila" or superdiatonic fifth.

Scale tree

Generator Cents Comments
1\5 240
12\59 244.068 Pseudo-semaphore is around here
11\54 244.444
10\49 244.898
9\44 245.455
8\39 246.154
7\34 247.059
6\29 248.276
11\53 249.057 Semaphore is around here
5\24 250 L/s = 4
9\43 251.163
4\19 252.632 Godzilla is around here

L/s = 3

11\52 253.813
29\137 254.015
76\359 254.039
199\940 254.043
123\581 254.045
47\222 254.054
18\85 254.118
7\33 254.5455
10\47 255.319
13\61 255.734
16\75 256.000
3\14 257.143 Boundary of propriety (generators

larger than this are proper)

11\51 258.8235
258.957
8\37 259.459
21\97 259.794
55\254 259.843
144\665 259.850
233\1076 259.851 Golden superpelog
89\411 259.854
34\157 259.873
13\60 260
260.246
5\23 260.870 Optimum rank range (L/s=3/2) superpelog
7\32 262.5
9\41 263.415
11\50 264
13\59 264.407
15\68 264.706
17\77 264.935
19\86 265.116
21\95 265.263
2\9 266.667

Tuning ranges

Semaphore

We can view semaphore as any 5L 4s tuning where two semifourth generators make a diatonic (5L 2s) fourth, i.e. any tuning where the semifourth is between 1\5 (240¢) or 3\14 (257.14¢). One important sub-range of semaphore is given by stipulating that two semifourth generators must make a meantone fourth; i.e. that four fifths should approximate a 5/4 major third. This results in godzilla temperament, which is supported by 19edo and 24edo.

The sizes of the generator, large step and small step of 5L 4s are as follows in various semaphore tunings.

14edo 19edo 24edo 29edo
generator (g) 3\14, 257.14 4\19, 252.63 5\24, 250. 6\29, 248.28
L (octave - 4g) 171.43 189.47 200.00 206.90
s (5g - octave) 85.71 63.16 50.00 41.38

Superpelog

For convenience's sake, we can view superpelog as any 5L 4s tuning where two semifourth generators make a superdiatonic (7L 2s) fourth, i.e. any tuning where the semifourth is between 3\14 (257.14¢) and 2\9 (266.67¢). 23edo's 5\23 (260.87¢) is an example of a superpelog generator.

The sizes of the generator, large step and small step of 5L 4s are as follows in various superpelog tunings.

23edo 32edo 37edo
generator (g) 5\23, 252.63 7\32, 262.50 8\37, 259.46
L (octave - 4g) 156.52 150.00 162.16
s (5g - octave) 104.35 112.50 97.30

Notation

This article uses diamond MOS notation, with the convention JKLMNOPQR = LLSLSLSLS and pitch standard J = C4 = 261.6255653 Hz. The accidentals & and @ are used for raising and lowering by the chroma = L − S, respectively.

Intervals

Modes

TODO: names

  • LLsLsLsLs
  • LsLLsLsLs
  • LsLsLLsLs
  • LsLsLsLLs
  • LsLsLsLsL
  • sLLsLsLsL
  • sLsLLsLsL
  • sLsLsLLsL
  • sLsLsLsLL

One can think of 5L 4s modes as being built from two pentachords (division of the perfect fourth into four intervals) plus a whole tone. The possible pentachords are LsLs, sLLs, and sLsL.

Chords

Primodal theory

Nejis

14nejis

  1. 95:100:105:110:116:122:128:135:141:148:156:164:172:180:190 (uses /19 prime family intervals while being pretty close to equal)

Samples

File:Dream EP 14edo Sketch.mp3 is a short swing ditty in 14edo semaphore[9], in the 212121221 mode.